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October 11, 2011, 10:14:20 PM
#7
The key is to have a rating of some sort, so people have a reputation to protect. Why do big companies give good service? So people will keep coming back, they need to protect their image.

It would be useful for somebody to set up a place where bitcoin businesses can be rated, where people can give feedback and reviews. Of course, with places such as these, you have to watch out for people shilling for themselves, building up fake reputation to scam unwary customers. It is quite a dilemma.


This is the tricky part, though.  If you go with a centralized site, like Amazon's Marketplace, you kill off one of the best features of online commerce:  the ability for small sites to put competitive pressure on the big sites by offering lower prices due to their low overhead.  

Otherwise, just relying on reputation and ratings requires much savvier consumers (and can still be manipulated by shills) and seems like it will heavily favor the bigger players.  New sites will have a hard time getting off the ground since they'll be competing head to head with the scammers for customers who are willing to take a chance to get a good deal.  Meanwhile, the bigger sites can jack up their prices and charge people for the "privilege" of not getting ripped off.
legendary
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October 11, 2011, 10:14:12 PM
#6
If recent online wallets are any indication chances are they are more likely to run off with everyones coins in the end.

The more money is involved and the less risk of exposure the more likely people rip each other off.
Reputation is key and works just fine.

For real protection we need something much more sophisticated like a decentralized web of thrust. Right now there is missing the infrastructure for this, but bitcoin could provide part of it ...
legendary
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October 11, 2011, 10:07:06 PM
#5
You can go by history and the value of the transaction.  To be fair, there have been many places that STORE your bitcoins that have had problems, and many private sellers as well.  There have been far fewer (but not zero) bitcoin ecommerce sites that have defrauded customers.  BTCdeals.com is the only one I can think of off hand.  

I would not buy expensive items from an unknown bitcoin ecommerce site until they have a track record.
sr. member
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It's all about the game, and how you play it
October 11, 2011, 10:05:27 PM
#4
Just integrety and honesty, i've always said buisness that do honest buisness make more in the long run.
sr. member
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October 11, 2011, 10:02:23 PM
#3
How about an online bitcoin wallet with generally much higher fees (in line with Visa/Mastercard) but which has customer protection in the form of insurance for the online wallet provider.

1 -- Customer purchases something via SuperDuperWallet(tm)
2 -- merchant doesn't ship the product
3 -- Customer puts in a dispute at SuperWallet and they return his coins.
4 -- SuperWallet covers the loss by pre-arranging some kind of insurance against the certain % of cases where this is going to happen.

hero member
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October 11, 2011, 09:55:34 PM
#2
I've been following Bitcoin for a while now, and one hurdle to its use as a currency I'm not seeing how to overcome is the lack of accountability in online commerce. 

Online shopping works in large part because you know that if BudgetComputer.com doesn't send you the memory they promised, you can always sic Visa on them.  With Bitcoin, one party has to hand over their goods or money without any way of knowing that the other party will hold up their end of the bargain.  And if they don't, there's nothing you can do about it.

What is to stop people from putting up websites, collecting money, and then simply disappearing with it?  Wouldn't adoption of Bitcoin essentially drive out small businesses as people flock to the larger sites like Newegg and Amazon, in the hopes that a big company is less likely to rob you than a small one?


Nothing. This is already happening with the various sites just closing shop and running with the BTC.
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October 11, 2011, 09:52:17 PM
#1
I've been following Bitcoin for a while now, and one hurdle to its use as a currency I'm not seeing how to overcome is the lack of accountability in online commerce. 

Online shopping works in large part because you know that if BudgetComputer.com doesn't send you the memory they promised, you can always sic Visa on them.  With Bitcoin, one party has to hand over their goods or money without any way of knowing that the other party will hold up their end of the bargain.  And if they don't, there's nothing you can do about it.

What is to stop people from putting up websites, collecting money, and then simply disappearing with it?  Wouldn't adoption of Bitcoin essentially drive out small businesses as people flock to the larger sites like Newegg and Amazon, in the hopes that a big company is less likely to rob you than a small one?
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