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legendary
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December 07, 2024, 09:53:27 PM
#40
What does believing or not believing that the laws of QM have to do with anything have to do with our talk?

And certainly the Ken Ham thing was just supposed to be an additional tidbit of info, right?

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Have you been getting lessons on how to speak word salad from Kamala Harris? Because there is nothing we can learn from your word salads especially when they do not contain enough ham for Kenny the Tiger to be interested in them.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

Now you are talking about word salads. Is your word salad made up of other word salads?

Does faith in QM have to do with math? Of course. There wouldn't be any QM without the mind of man. And that is where you find math, in the mind of man.

So what?

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December 07, 2024, 09:27:46 PM
#39
What does believing or not believing that the laws of QM have to do with anything have to do with our talk?

And certainly the Ken Ham thing was just supposed to be an additional tidbit of info, right?

Cool
Have you been getting lessons on how to speak word salad from Kamala Harris? Because there is nothing we can learn from your word salads especially when they do not contain enough ham for Kenny the Tiger to be interested in them.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.
legendary
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December 07, 2024, 09:15:18 PM
#38
Laws of physics that incorporate genius in themselves, show this genius in mankind. An example is that people generally believe that there is math in nature, when anybody who thinks about it sees that math is only in the mind of man... not in nature at all. So, physics DOES show the genius of man found in nature. Lol.

Btw, TWITTER THE TIGER LIKES KENNY HAM.

Cool
If you don't believe that the laws of quantum mechanics are laws that can be described mathematically, I cannot have a discussion with you. But I am glad that we both agree that Kenny the Tiger likes ham. I tried telling the legendary creationist Ken Ham that Kenny the Tiger likes ham, but Ken Ham was annoyed by me.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.


What does believing or not believing that the laws of QM have to do with anything have to do with our talk?

And certainly the Ken Ham thing was just supposed to be an additional tidbit of info, right?

Cool
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December 07, 2024, 08:31:35 PM
#37
Laws of physics that incorporate genius in themselves, show this genius in mankind. An example is that people generally believe that there is math in nature, when anybody who thinks about it sees that math is only in the mind of man... not in nature at all. So, physics DOES show the genius of man found in nature. Lol.

Btw, TWITTER THE TIGER LIKES KENNY HAM.

Cool
If you don't believe that the laws of quantum mechanics are laws that can be described mathematically, I cannot have a discussion with you. But I am glad that we both agree that Kenny the Tiger likes ham. I tried telling the legendary creationist Ken Ham that Kenny the Tiger likes ham, but Ken Ham was annoyed by me.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

legendary
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December 07, 2024, 07:46:38 PM
#36
This is so sad to read. Were you home schooled by religious parents I suppose? That should be a crime.

There is overwhelming evidence for evolution. We can see it happen under a microscope. Domesticated dogs prove it simply.
Um. Public schools and universities are the places that are breeding creationists because on one hand, they teach evolution (and they are right for doing so), but on the other hand, they are completely f@#$ed up, so they end up inadvertently breeding creationists much better than Ken Ham.

Nobody can explain how you use evolutionary computation. But just because Ford cars evolved over the years, doesn't mean there was evolution in the sense of evolution in nature. In fact, the fact that you can use 'evolutionary computation', proves that there is design, not evolution.

Cool
Biological evolution does not disprove any design for the underlying laws of physics. If you knew anything about quantum mechanics (I know a little bit about quantum mechanics not enough to pretend to be a physicist), you would know that the laws of the universe incorporate some genius into them. Saying that evolutionary computation requires design is like saying that biological evolution requires the laws of physics to be designed. But any design in the laws of physics does nothing to negate the theory of biological evolution.

This is so sad to read. Were you home schooled by religious parents I suppose? That should be a crime.

There is overwhelming evidence for evolution. We can see it happen under a microscope. Domesticated dogs prove it simply.
Being wrong should not be a crime. Criminalization is not the way to solve problems. Except for obesity. We need to criminalize obesity right now.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

Before I got banned from Twitter, I got blocked by legendary creationist Ken Ham for saying that KENNY THE TIGER LIKES HAM!

https://allthatsinteresting.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/the-myth-about-kenny-the-tiger.jpg

Kenny the tiger was living proof that white tigers are unnatural and unhealthy and people like Siegfried and Roy should stop breeding them. Natural selection works. Artificial selection does not work so well because the people who do the selection are idiots.


Laws of physics that incorporate genius in themselves, show this genius in mankind. An example is that people generally believe that there is math in nature, when anybody who thinks about it sees that math is only in the mind of man... not in nature at all. So, physics DOES show the genius of man found in nature. Lol.

Btw, TWITTER THE TIGER LIKES KENNY HAM.

Cool
legendary
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December 07, 2024, 07:42:04 PM
#35
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That's entire the point. Evolution is totally NOT proven to exist. And, it is almost proven to NOT exist. Rather, it is a religion.

Nobody has seen evolution take place. There is no proof for it. An assumption was made by science and media that evolution DOES exist. Then they built up a bunch of theories about its supposed existence. There is no proof for it.

Cool


This is so sad to read. Were you home schooled by religious parents I suppose? That should be a crime.

There is overwhelming evidence for evolution. We can see it happen under a microscope. Domesticated dogs prove it simply.


We can see changes happening under the microscope. But the changes of evolution that are expressed in Evolution Theory have never been knowingly observed. Regarding people, the last one possibly happened a thousand years ago, if it is there. Nobody was looking. It's never been observed. At best, it has been hypothesized.

However, science fiction stories can be fun to read.

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legendary
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December 07, 2024, 07:37:22 PM
#34
You play games with your intelligence.

Your entire point is seven hundred dogs, at least ten million insects and two trillion bacteria (99.999 percent of them have yet to be discovered) stayed on a boat for forty days so they wouldn't drown.

Again, you are a hypocrite.  You come across (intelligence wise) as being limited by the boded items:

Quote
Intelligence is a cognitive trait that involves many abilities and traits, including:
Adaptability: The ability to adjust to new situations, environments, and challenges
Curiosity: An insatiable desire to learn and explore
Open-mindedness: Being receptive to new ideas and perspectives
Critical thinking: The ability to analyze information and solve problems
Creativity: The ability to come up with new ideas
Self-awareness: Being aware of one's own knowledge and limitations
Emotional knowledge: Being aware of and understanding one's own emotions and those of others
Skepticism: Being able to question and evaluate information
Good questioning: Asking thoughtful questions
Sensitivity: Being able to understand and relate to the experiences of others
Source:  https://www.google.com/search?q=what+traits+does+intelligence+require


If you have any of those traits, you are not showing them.

Sad

The evidence that you express shows that man is devolving. First, since God did it, it was an act of God's power. Second, the fact that people can't so easily control animals like that, shows the devolution. Third, the simple idea of evolution shows that man wants to look greater than he really is.

So, thanks for showing us how ignorant and devolved you are. There is some small thing in your favor there.

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December 07, 2024, 01:45:57 PM
#33
This is so sad to read. Were you home schooled by religious parents I suppose? That should be a crime.

There is overwhelming evidence for evolution. We can see it happen under a microscope. Domesticated dogs prove it simply.
Um. Public schools and universities are the places that are breeding creationists because on one hand, they teach evolution (and they are right for doing so), but on the other hand, they are completely f@#$ed up, so they end up inadvertently breeding creationists much better than Ken Ham.

Nobody can explain how you use evolutionary computation. But just because Ford cars evolved over the years, doesn't mean there was evolution in the sense of evolution in nature. In fact, the fact that you can use 'evolutionary computation', proves that there is design, not evolution.

Cool
Biological evolution does not disprove any design for the underlying laws of physics. If you knew anything about quantum mechanics (I know a little bit about quantum mechanics not enough to pretend to be a physicist), you would know that the laws of the universe incorporate some genius into them. Saying that evolutionary computation requires design is like saying that biological evolution requires the laws of physics to be designed. But any design in the laws of physics does nothing to negate the theory of biological evolution.

This is so sad to read. Were you home schooled by religious parents I suppose? That should be a crime.

There is overwhelming evidence for evolution. We can see it happen under a microscope. Domesticated dogs prove it simply.
Being wrong should not be a crime. Criminalization is not the way to solve problems. Except for obesity. We need to criminalize obesity right now.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

Before I got banned from Twitter, I got blocked by legendary creationist Ken Ham for saying that KENNY THE TIGER LIKES HAM!



Kenny the tiger was living proof that white tigers are unnatural and unhealthy and people like Siegfried and Roy should stop breeding them. Natural selection works. Artificial selection does not work so well because the people who do the selection are idiots.
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December 07, 2024, 10:42:42 AM
#32


I know exactly how you feel. Here we are in the age of scientific thinking, and so many people believe in the evolution fairy tale without even thinking. And it wouldn't be so bad, but even after they are shown the science against evolution, they keep right on believing in it. Strange.

I think it's that they want religion so badly, that they will simply accept just about anything. Don't mean to talk against your religion, but...

Cool


I don't think you understand how science works. When something is proven to be wrong, people don't keep "believing" it. Thank is called religion, or a cult.

That's entire the point. Evolution is totally NOT proven to exist. And, it is almost proven to NOT exist. Rather, it is a religion.

Nobody has seen evolution take place. There is no proof for it. An assumption was made by science and media that evolution DOES exist. Then they built up a bunch of theories about its supposed existence. There is no proof for it.

Cool


This is so sad to read. Were you home schooled by religious parents I suppose? That should be a crime.

There is overwhelming evidence for evolution. We can see it happen under a microscope. Domesticated dogs prove it simply.
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legendary
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Licking my boob since 1970
December 07, 2024, 12:07:51 AM
#31
You play games with your intelligence.

Your entire point is seven hundred dogs, at least ten million insects and two trillion bacteria (99.999 percent of them have yet to be discovered) stayed on a boat for forty days so they wouldn't drown.

Again, you are a hypocrite.  You come across (intelligence wise) as being limited by the boded items:

Quote
Intelligence is a cognitive trait that involves many abilities and traits, including:
Adaptability: The ability to adjust to new situations, environments, and challenges
Curiosity: An insatiable desire to learn and explore
Open-mindedness: Being receptive to new ideas and perspectives
Critical thinking: The ability to analyze information and solve problems
Creativity: The ability to come up with new ideas
Self-awareness: Being aware of one's own knowledge and limitations
Emotional knowledge: Being aware of and understanding one's own emotions and those of others
Skepticism: Being able to question and evaluate information
Good questioning: Asking thoughtful questions
Sensitivity: Being able to understand and relate to the experiences of others
Source:  https://www.google.com/search?q=what+traits+does+intelligence+require


If you have any of those traits, you are not showing them.

Sad
legendary
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December 05, 2024, 07:43:12 PM
#30
Nobody can explain how you use evolutionary computation. But just because Ford cars evolved over the years, doesn't mean there was evolution in the sense of evolution in nature. In fact, the fact that you can use 'evolutionary computation', proves that there is design, not evolution.

Cool
If you cannot explain how I use evolutionary computation, then you have absolutely no intelligence.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

You play games with your intelligence. Now, that wouldn't be so bad, but when you can't overcome a wise answer, you use foul language. Nobody is interested in your evolutionary computations.

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member
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December 05, 2024, 07:38:52 PM
#29
Nobody can explain how you use evolutionary computation. But just because Ford cars evolved over the years, doesn't mean there was evolution in the sense of evolution in nature. In fact, the fact that you can use 'evolutionary computation', proves that there is design, not evolution.

Cool
If you cannot explain how I use evolutionary computation, then you have absolutely no intelligence.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

Hmm. You seem to not believe in Covid-19 either. After all, the only way to deny evolution is to deny the existence of viruses because viruses evolve very quickly.
legendary
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December 05, 2024, 07:00:10 PM
#28
That's entire the point. Evolution is totally NOT proven to exist. And, it is almost proven to NOT exist. Rather, it is a religion.

Nobody has seen evolution take place. There is no proof for it. An assumption was made by science and media that evolution DOES exist. Then they built up a bunch of theories about its supposed existence. There is no proof for it.

Cool
You cannot explain how I used evolutionary computation to solve computational problems. You cannot provide a divine digital signature for your scriptures.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

Nobody can explain how you use evolutionary computation. But just because Ford cars evolved over the years, doesn't mean there was evolution in the sense of evolution in nature. In fact, the fact that you can use 'evolutionary computation', proves that there is design, not evolution.

Cool
member
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December 05, 2024, 06:54:19 PM
#27
That's entire the point. Evolution is totally NOT proven to exist. And, it is almost proven to NOT exist. Rather, it is a religion.

Nobody has seen evolution take place. There is no proof for it. An assumption was made by science and media that evolution DOES exist. Then they built up a bunch of theories about its supposed existence. There is no proof for it.

Cool
You cannot explain how I used evolutionary computation to solve computational problems. You cannot provide a divine digital signature for your scriptures.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.
legendary
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December 05, 2024, 06:50:34 PM
#26


I know exactly how you feel. Here we are in the age of scientific thinking, and so many people believe in the evolution fairy tale without even thinking. And it wouldn't be so bad, but even after they are shown the science against evolution, they keep right on believing in it. Strange.

I think it's that they want religion so badly, that they will simply accept just about anything. Don't mean to talk against your religion, but...

Cool


I don't think you understand how science works. When something is proven to be wrong, people don't keep "believing" it. Thank is called religion, or a cult.

That's entire the point. Evolution is totally NOT proven to exist. And, it is almost proven to NOT exist. Rather, it is a religion.

Nobody has seen evolution take place. There is no proof for it. An assumption was made by science and media that evolution DOES exist. Then they built up a bunch of theories about its supposed existence. There is no proof for it.

Cool
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December 05, 2024, 05:07:46 PM
#25
The Bible says that the Earth was created about 7,500 years ago. Josephus, using Ancient Hebrew manuscripts says this, and the Septuagint says it.

The earth and universe were created in this general form in 6 days. Man was created in less than one.

The guy who wrote this in the Bible was a guy who did miraculous things that could not have been done without God backing him. It was the strength of Moses. He wrote the truth, the first 5 books of the Bible.

There is no evolution. Standard cause and effect says that there is nothing that comes about by action that is not set in place by what happened before it. The power to plan and build the universe, is power that can make anything in little or no time... including life.

Cool

I can't understand how an adult in the 21st century can still believe in bronze age fairy tales.

I think it is because the world can be a frightening place, and it is easier to just believe that you know everything.

I know exactly how you feel. Here we are in the age of scientific thinking, and so many people believe in the evolution fairy tale without even thinking. And it wouldn't be so bad, but even after they are shown the science against evolution, they keep right on believing in it. Strange.

I think it's that they want religion so badly, that they will simply accept just about anything. Don't mean to talk against your religion, but...

Cool


I don't think you understand how science works. When something is proven to be wrong, people don't keep "believing" it. Thank is called religion, or a cult.
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December 05, 2024, 11:13:50 AM
#24
If you are allowed to talk to people outside your church, why not do yourself a favor and visit a dog breeder?  They can show you how they breed dogs that have random mutations they find positive.    Once observed, the random mutation is known.  Or do you think modern dog breeds were on the ark?

If you are allowed to read books outside your church, they may show you the breeding records you can validate yourself.   Thy might even let you take the records home so you can do in your own time, without pressure from the man.
You are never going to convince anyone of anything sensible because humans are fucking morons. Universities promote violence, and humans are too fucked up to study on their own, so you can't expect them to learn anything. Bitcoiners cannot even understand that Bitcoin has a mining algorithm that was never designed to advance science nor can they request for their documents to be cryptographically signed using a divine digital signature if they came from a deity.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.
Vod
legendary
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December 05, 2024, 04:27:31 AM
#23
However. Evolution Theory destroys the idea of evolution. It's in the word 'random'. What random mutations really are, is mutations that nobody knows what they were. Since nobody knows what the mutations were, how do they know that it was mutations at all?

If you are allowed to talk to people outside your church, why not do yourself a favor and visit a dog breeder?  They can show you how they breed dogs that have random mutations they find positive.    Once observed, the random mutation is known.  Or do you think modern dog breeds were on the ark?

If you are allowed to read books outside your church, they may show you the breeding records you can validate yourself.   Thy might even let you take the records home so you can do in your own time, without pressure from the man.
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December 05, 2024, 04:24:48 AM
#22
We came from Mars, after the nuclear war there.
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legendary
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December 05, 2024, 03:43:32 AM
#21
I know exactly how you feel. Here we are in the age of scientific thinking, and so many people believe in the evolution fairy tale without even thinking.

They believe whatever the pope tells them.   If your leader is brainwashed, find another cult.  No one forces you to listen to the pope other than yourself.

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