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legendary
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Hello Everyone. I´ve never posted on here before; I´ve just observed. Should problems with the latest OS X Hyperstake Wallet be reported directly on GitHub? I just want to make sure that I´m not breaching protocol or stepping on anyone´s toes. Thanks in advance!

Easiest to report it here to be honest. Billotronic builds the Mac wallets for us, and i think there is some known compatability issues with certain OS's. He'll see this post soon enough I am sure.  Cool
hero member
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Well, its official.. 2400 blocks are gonna max out... Time to move to 2k.. Smiley
I did it 9 days ago. Since I already have 36 block maxed out (and more by the day), I wil start moving my new blocks to 1800.

The lower the blocks, the more numerous the block, the faster the diff rise - without even accounting for more HYP being available for more blocks. Expect exponential rise.

I also moved the chart to open access, so you will not have to request access anymore, sorry about that.
newbie
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Hello Everyone. I´ve never posted on here before; I´ve just observed. Should problems with the latest OS X Hyperstake Wallet be reported directly on GitHub? I just want to make sure that I´m not breaching protocol or stepping on anyone´s toes. Thanks in advance!
legendary
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Well, its official.. 2400 blocks are gonna max out... Time to move to 2k.. Smiley
legendary
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Updated the source

Tab 1: full HYP, with graph
Tab 2: the important moments

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZOfnVBRhbOCUjyE3QJor8pV_5IPya-88yprJPGusBe4/edit#gid=1470732859

Could someone create a graph out of tab1? I cannot, it is painstakingly slow on my computer.

I'll try Cheesy

Requested permission Wink
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Updated the source

Tab 1: full HYP, with graph
Tab 2: the important moments

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZOfnVBRhbOCUjyE3QJor8pV_5IPya-88yprJPGusBe4/edit#gid=1470732859

Could someone create a graph out of tab1? I cannot, it is painstakingly slow on my computer.

access has been requested to your google doc, seems like it is private at the moment.

I will see if i can make up a graph from all the data.
hero member
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Updated the source

Tab 1: full HYP, with graph
Tab 2: the important moments

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZOfnVBRhbOCUjyE3QJor8pV_5IPya-88yprJPGusBe4/edit#gid=1470732859

Could someone create a graph out of tab1? I cannot, it is painstakingly slow on my computer.
legendary
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Only those who are doing nothing, aren't making mistakes. It's a golden business rule.

Holy shit I didn't think anyone else used that saying!

Words to live by.
sr. member
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We are the first to program your future (c)
If you think that diff 9 is high, think again. ATH is 80 I'm not sure we will ever break it.

Source: HYP diff
The last entry on the document is block 173045 at 7,49593. The last ATH is way before half the current lifetime of HYP, so chances are low the ATH is here to say quite some time.

Those are all PoW blocks, which have a completely different difficulty, and are not comparable to PoS diff.
I once again proved to everyone how stupid I am... I will recalculate starting from block 31781.


Block      Difficulty     Notes
     0     0.000244137    Block 0 had the lowest difficulty ever: 0.000244137
 31781     0.009388670    First HYP block (before, it was TRK)
 33312     0.009421360    First time diff goes above the fork launch block diff (8.73 days min age preventing much staking before)
 33315     0.010084600    The symbolic diff 0.01 is broken
 33344     0.020335800    Diff 0.02 is broken
 33397     0.030417400    Diff 0.03 is broken
 34573     0.040048100    Diff 0.04 is broken
 35001     0.050303400    Diff 0.05 is broken
 35016     0.061330300    Diff 0.06 is broken
 35927     0.071156300    Diff 0.07 is broken
 35931     0.080601600    Diff 0.08 is broken
 35934     0.091189900    Diff 0.09 is broken
 43375     0.104294000    The symbolic diff 0.1 is broken
 45354     0.203308000    Diff 0.2 is broken
 45456     0.306284000    Diff 0.3 is broken
 49295     0.413530000    Diff 0.4 is broken
 62829     0.500084000    Diff 0.5 is broken
 64579     0.607988000    Diff 0.6 is broken
 66476     0.711131000    Diff 0.7 is broken
 68533     0.811710000    Diff 0.8 is broken
 76820     0.901754000    Diff 0.9 is broken
 77845     1.031510000    The highly symbolic diff of 1 is broken
 94429     2.046340000    Diff 2 is broken
127250     3.062490000    Diff 3 is broken
156051     4.096740000    Diff 4 is broken
158455     5.028010000    Diff 5 is broken
160534     6.031260000    Diff 6 is broken
169825     7.154830000    Diff 8 is broken
169835     9.085750000    Diff 9 is broken
172850    10.210000000    Diff 10 is broken
173045     7.495930000    Latest recorded block


Only those who are doing nothing, aren't making mistakes. It's a golden business rule.
legendary
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Block      Difficulty     Notes
     0     0.000244137    Block 0 had the lowest difficulty ever: 0.000244137
 31781     0.009388670    First HYP block (before, it was TRK)
 33312     0.009421360    First time diff goes above the fork launch block diff (8.73 days min age preventing much staking before)
 33315     0.010084600    The symbolic diff 0.01 is broken
 33344     0.020335800    Diff 0.02 is broken
 33397     0.030417400    Diff 0.03 is broken
 34573     0.040048100    Diff 0.04 is broken
 35001     0.050303400    Diff 0.05 is broken
 35016     0.061330300    Diff 0.06 is broken
 35927     0.071156300    Diff 0.07 is broken
 35931     0.080601600    Diff 0.08 is broken
 35934     0.091189900    Diff 0.09 is broken
 43375     0.104294000    The symbolic diff 0.1 is broken
 45354     0.203308000    Diff 0.2 is broken
 45456     0.306284000    Diff 0.3 is broken
 49295     0.413530000    Diff 0.4 is broken
 62829     0.500084000    Diff 0.5 is broken
 64579     0.607988000    Diff 0.6 is broken
 66476     0.711131000    Diff 0.7 is broken
 68533     0.811710000    Diff 0.8 is broken
 76820     0.901754000    Diff 0.9 is broken
 77845     1.031510000    The highly symbolic diff of 1 is broken
 94429     2.046340000    Diff 2 is broken
127250     3.062490000    Diff 3 is broken
156051     4.096740000    Diff 4 is broken
158455     5.028010000    Diff 5 is broken
160534     6.031260000    Diff 6 is broken
169825     7.154830000    Diff 8 is broken
169835     9.085750000    Diff 9 is broken
172850    10.210000000    Diff 10 is broken
173045     7.495930000    Latest recorded block


WOW thanks for going through all the work to do this all!  This is really cool.  It looks like diff really started taking off after the 100k range.
hero member
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If you think that diff 9 is high, think again. ATH is 80 I'm not sure we will ever break it.

Source: HYP diff
The last entry on the document is block 173045 at 7,49593. The last ATH is way before half the current lifetime of HYP, so chances are low the ATH is here to say quite some time.

Those are all PoW blocks, which have a completely different difficulty, and are not comparable to PoS diff.
I once again proved to everyone how stupid I am... I will recalculate starting from block 31781.


Block      Difficulty     Notes
     0     0.000244137    Block 0 had the lowest difficulty ever: 0.000244137
 31781     0.009388670    First HYP block (before, it was TRK)
 33312     0.009421360    First time diff goes above the fork launch block diff (8.73 days min age preventing much staking before)
 33315     0.010084600    The symbolic diff 0.01 is broken
 33344     0.020335800    Diff 0.02 is broken
 33397     0.030417400    Diff 0.03 is broken
 34573     0.040048100    Diff 0.04 is broken
 35001     0.050303400    Diff 0.05 is broken
 35016     0.061330300    Diff 0.06 is broken
 35927     0.071156300    Diff 0.07 is broken
 35931     0.080601600    Diff 0.08 is broken
 35934     0.091189900    Diff 0.09 is broken
 43375     0.104294000    The symbolic diff 0.1 is broken
 45354     0.203308000    Diff 0.2 is broken
 45456     0.306284000    Diff 0.3 is broken
 49295     0.413530000    Diff 0.4 is broken
 62829     0.500084000    Diff 0.5 is broken
 64579     0.607988000    Diff 0.6 is broken
 66476     0.711131000    Diff 0.7 is broken
 68533     0.811710000    Diff 0.8 is broken
 76820     0.901754000    Diff 0.9 is broken
 77845     1.031510000    The highly symbolic diff of 1 is broken
 94429     2.046340000    Diff 2 is broken
127250     3.062490000    Diff 3 is broken
156051     4.096740000    Diff 4 is broken
158455     5.028010000    Diff 5 is broken
160534     6.031260000    Diff 6 is broken
169825     7.154830000    Diff 8 is broken
169835     9.085750000    Diff 9 is broken
172850    10.210000000    Diff 10 is broken
173045     7.495930000    Latest recorded block
legendary
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If you think that diff 9 is high, think again. ATH is 80 I'm not sure we will ever break it.

Source: HYP diff
The last entry on the document is block 173045 at 7,49593. The last ATH is way before half the current lifetime of HYP, so chances are low the ATH is here to say quite some time.

Those are all PoW blocks, which have a completely different difficulty, and are not comparable to PoS diff.
hero member
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Error, correct values for HYP (these ones are for TRK's PoW phase).

If you think that diff 9 is high, think again. ATH is 80 I'm not sure we will ever break it.

Source: HYP diff

Block     Difficulty     Notes
0          0,000244137   Block 0 had the lowest difficulty ever: 0.000244137
6          0,000244137   Block 6: first lowering in difficulty - it won't last
16         0,000269512   Block 16: previous ATH broken
26         0,000310479   Block 26: 0.0003 is broken
32         0,000416275   Block 32: 0.0004 is broken
36         0,000506152   Block 36: 0.0005 is broken
40         0,000600732   Block 40: 0.0006 is broken
44         0,000731683   Block 44: 0.0007 is broken
46         0,000806813   Block 46: 0.0008 is broken
49         0,000933689   Block 47: 0.0009 is broken
51         0,00102898    Block 51: the symbolic 0.001 is broken
65         0,0020041     Block 65: 0.002 is broken
74         0,00304504    Block 75: 0.003 is broken
81         0,0041321     Block 81: 0.004 is broken
86         0,00516652    Block 86: 0.005 is broken    
90         0,00623955    Block 90: 0.006 is broken
93         0,00714773    Block 93: 0.007 is broken
96         0,00824367    Block 96: 0.008 is broken    
99         0,00938436    Block 99: the hundredth block has 40x time more diff that the very first one (block 0)
100        0,00985438    At block 100, difficulty is already 40x times higher than at the start
101        0,0102142     Block 101 breaks the symbolic 0.01 barrier
116        0,0205144     Block 116: 0.02 is broken
125        0,0311326     Block 125: 0.03 is broken    
132        0,0413263     Block 132: 0.04 is broken    
137        0,0511488     Block 137: 0.05 is broken
142        0,0619258     Block 142: 0.06 is broken
147        0,07174       Block 147: 0.07 is broken
151        0,0835648     Block 151: 0.08 is broken
153        0,0906984     Block 153: 0.09 is broken
156        0,104012      Block 156: the symbolic 0.1 is broken
191        0,200142      Block 191: this one took time, but 0.2 is finally broken
200        0,306339      The symbolic block 200 breaks the 0.3 barrier
206        0,40933       Block 206: 0.4 is broken
211        0,513525      Block 211: 0.5 is broken
215        0,619113      Block 215: 0.6 is broken
218        0,712825      Block 218: 0.7 is broken
221        0,824464      Block 221: 0.8 is broken
226        0,913902      Block 226: 0.9 is broken
229        1,0098        The great symbolic "diff one" is reached on block 229
260        2,05713       Block 260: diff 2
273        3,01339       Block 273: diff 3
284        4,01291       Block 284: diff 4
314        5,02368       Block 314: diff 5
320        6,07584       Block 320: diff 6
325        7,09528       Block 325: diff 7
328        8,00022       Block 328: diff 8
336        9,01646       Block 336: diff 9
345       10,2177        Block 345: diff 10
353       11,2193        Block 353: diff 11! We have yet to come back to this diff
356       12,2017        Block 356: diff 12
358       13,2502        Block 358: diff 13
362       14,0754        Block 362: diff 14
370       15,4477        Block 370: diff 15
371       16,1662        Block 371: diff 16
376       17,0726        Block 376: diff 17
378       18,5404        Block 378: diff 18
379       19,2933        Block 359: diff 19
420       20,1303        Block 420: diff 20
496        6,0221        Block 496: massive dump in diff, from 17 to 6, which means -60% in one block! Probably a very large wallet on several addresses, a.k.a. "whale exiting"
690       21,0347        Block 690: diff 21
706       22,0521        Block 706: diff 22    
862       23,3601        Block 862: diff 23
863       24,2132        Block 863: diff 24
867       25,6871        Block 867: diff 25
868       26,8058        Block 868: diff 26
869       27,6449        Block 869: diff 27
870       28,8001        Block 870: diff 28
873       29,8512        Block 873: diff 29
874       30,2447        Block 874: diff 30
879       31,3893        Block 879: diff 31
880       32,7749        Block 880: diff 32
896       33,4743        Block 896: diff 33
897       34,7748        Block 897: diff 34
899       35,0237        Block 899: diff 35
900       36,7779        Block 900: diff 36
930       37,4015        Block 930: diff 37
943       38,4687        Block 943: diff 38
944       39,2126        Block 944: diff 39
945       41,0365        Block 945: diff 41 - straight from 39 to 41
1024      43,0869        Block 1024: diff 43 for this symbolic block
1029      44,797         Block 1029: diff 44
1037      45,2098        Block 1037: diff 45
1042      47,3765        Block 1042: diff 47
1043      49,6646        Block 1043: diff 49
1045      50,2489        Block 1045: diff 50
1079      51,3981        Block 1079: diff 51
1080      52,9775        Block 1080: diff 52
1082      54,08          Block 1082: diff 54 - straight from 52 to 54
1128      55,2783        Block 1128: diff 55
1129      57,5557        Block 1129: diff 57
1130      60,4386        Block 1130: diff 60
1131      61,5054        Block 1131: diff 61
1134      62,1091        Block 1134: diff 62
1143      65,9228        Block 1143: diff 65
1144      68,6388        Block 1144: diff 68
1145      70,5507        Block 1145: diff 70
1146      73,3746        Block 1146: diff 73
1147      74,711         Block 1147: diff 74
1149      76,2412        Block 1149: diff 76
1154      79,7782        Block 1154: diff 79
1156      80,6996        Block 1156: for the first time  EIGHTY - and this is the current ATH
The last entry on the document is block 173045 at 7,49593. The last ATH is way before half the current lifetime of HYP, so chances are low the ATH is here to say quite some time.
hero member
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This is the reason i suggested giving a private key instead of sending the coins. Don't pay us back?? We yank it back anyways.
Back then, I expressed the opinion that people could just transfer the coin and that would be over, but after all, we can notice it and more importantly, they would have to learn something more about HYP.
But the main reason I was not that enthusiastic about it is that by then is that I did not completely understood the export and dump priv key thing. And was concerned it would be difficult to explain to others. These issues are over now so I could implement it.
Still, I'd prefer to wait for triggers to be implemented, so we could have a time-based trigger. This is not as great as a real smart contract, since the trigger will have to be created by the receiver and we have no technical way to enforce it (contrary to a real smart contract), but that would be a great way to advance in the direction of smart contracts - we would need multisig, at a minimum. Time-lock and enforceable, and we may even prevent transfer of money to another address. Think Bitcoin Halo, ethereum/aethereum and BitBay (except the scam) here. HyperLoan toward smart contract?

(escrow = bloating - I could as well be the escrow, then, no one would doubt my reputation - but I'd rather have something as automated as possible)

Then again, this requires more dev and we don't have enough at the moment. Especially if we want to deliver webwallet - which is a higher priority than smart contracts, although a lower priority than multisend + trigger, since presstab is already on it.

But the main issue about HyperLoan is not technical. As I said, the main reason I postponed this week's HyperLoan is that people did not even care to win. Winners did not contact me to give me an addrress and I suggest that in one month, those who gave me an address back then will not send the money back because they do not even know they have some HYP they won.

Wall of shame was populated for a short while, then I realised PM crossed so I removed freedom from the WoS - but if in two day he did not pay, I will have to add him again.

Several people were late for paying, but I think they all acted in good well. Thus the need for an automated solution.

And for those who want to investigate  more about smart contracts: https://hyperstake.slack.com/archives/smartcontracts/
legendary
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Yeah looks like it might dip just a tad more. After hyp, I need a rasp pi staking setup Wink
sr. member
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We are the first to program your future (c)
Is it just me or do you think we've bottomed out? Looking to buy some more HYP but waiting for prices to stabilize  Tongue

It has been around 300 for awhile now so I would say it has bottomed out. Buy some and help stabilize the price more.

I just checked the price and it dropped some more. Waiting for where 1 cent = 10 hyp before I buy in haha.

Just a swing of the sideways trend.

legendary
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Is it just me or do you think we've bottomed out? Looking to buy some more HYP but waiting for prices to stabilize  Tongue

It has been around 300 for awhile now so I would say it has bottomed out. Buy some and help stabilize the price more.

I just checked the price and it dropped some more. Waiting for where 1 cent = 10 hyp before I buy in haha.
legendary
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As far as I know,  you were to publish two lists. The hall of fame,  and the hall of shame?

Don't you?
sr. member
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Is it just me or do you think we've bottomed out? Looking to buy some more HYP but waiting for prices to stabilize  Tongue

It has been around 300 for awhile now so I would say it has bottomed out. Buy some and help stabilize the price more.
legendary
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Is it just me or do you think we've bottomed out? Looking to buy some more HYP but waiting for prices to stabilize  Tongue
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