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Topic: [HYP] HyperStake | Generous Reward Staking | Advanced Staking Controls & Wallet - page 289. (Read 679335 times)

legendary
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Bottom-Up Promotion

Here's something I think we should do as a community, and it's a route of marketing that a lot of coins seem to ignore.

We need to focus on social media, sharing, etc. sites on a country-by-country (geographical region) basis. Try to find the Facebook, Twitter, or what have you social media site for that area and build tipping and sharing bots for them. HYPbots perhaps? Wink

I'm willing to donate to bounties for the necessary technology, and I'm sure others are willing to pitch in to. The same can be said of Community Management Groups for each of these sites/regions.

Let's start brainstorming! Smiley

This coin is still tiny and can grow exponentially...
But listing on Cryptsy adds nothing since all the HBN, CAP, TEK enthusiasts are already in HYP.

You gotta get listed on BTER and get indigenous Chinese support...
That's where the growth is... could probably more than double the cap with China promotion.

But really it's still an incremental advance over HBN, CAP, etc
Most of this thread is about people debating the correct block size and devs posting ultra-technical stuff...
*** That's as far away from mainstream as you can get, it's math geek territory ***...
And I'm speaking as a software engineer for > 20 years and pro trader.

Also, nobody seems to have the foggiest idea what the actual return is...
Or where the coin will stabilize in terms of realistic long-term return...
And 2 days ago network weight doubled and then halved in a matter of hours (??).

Yes, I know it's experimental...

But unless a lot of these things are clarified...
And to quote John Tuld in Margin Call,

 "“Speak to me as you would a small child, or a golden retriever,”...

If you cannot explain something to a 10 year old it cannot go mainstream...
So it all needs to be explained on Page One with a clear WhitePaper, maybe (eventually)...
Not conflicting information buried all over the place.
sr. member
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We are the first to program your future (c)
Well, I don't know how the math works here, but the last stake I received was 9/22.
I've combined some of my 400 Blocks into one 1600 block of HYP. I left 1 block size of around 400 HYP which is on age 19 days. So far, nothing has staked. And yes, wallet is unlocked and on the latest version Smiley
However, it always says estimated time to reward is 1 day.

I had a block of 300 HYP not a long time ago that staked almost instantly, but the difficulty was slightly lower. There is a possibility to find a right hash on the first try, as well as a possibility to find it on the millionth one. The process of hashing (bytes mixing) is random, but the older your block is (i.e. has more weight), the more probability for a hash to meet special requirements (hash < target bits * weight, where the target is inverse to the difficulty).
sr. member
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Well, I don't know how the math works here, but the last stake I received was 9/22.
I've combined some of my 400 Blocks into one 1600 block of HYP. I left 1 block size of around 400 HYP which is on age 19 days. So far, nothing has staked. And yes, wallet is unlocked and on the latest version Smiley
However, it always says estimated time to reward is 1 day.

If you've set up Coin Control, then you can look at a couple of important indicators as to when you're going to stake, yet I've had other blocks that have staked with a much lower weight!

Under the "Weight" column, as a general rule, the higher the weight, the more chance that particular block has of staking.

Personally I'm looking at some blocks now that are over 10,000 weight and they're still trying to stake.

You've also got to consider that if your blocks are too small (I have one at 245 HYP and it's not staked in over 2 months), then, it may never gain enough weight to ever stake. For example, after 30 days, your block stops gaining weight. (Weight is defined by taking the block size, and multiplying it by the time passed after 8.8 days, so a 400 Block after 9.8days would be worth a weight of 400, after 10.8 days worth 800 weight)..... someone correct me if my math is slightly out, but a 400 Block can only gain weight of 8480? (30 days - 8.8 days x 400)

BUT, unless you're desperate to sell, it doesn't really matter when the blocks actually stake. You're still gaining interest every single day that passes - as long as the particular block eventually stakes.

So, I don't know when you combined your blocks of 400 into a single 1600 block, but whenever you resize blocks, it resets the days staked back to 0.

Your 1600 block should stake soon, your block of 400 could take a fair amount of time. Just leave your wallet open 24/7 to be in with more of a chance.

PS - is this page 100? Oh yessssss !  Grin

I'd say that's pretty good going to go 100 pages with next to no haters, fud, or general problems!
HYP is going places, and it's great to be on board Smiley
hero member
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Well, I don't know how the math works here, but the last stake I received was 9/22.
I've combined some of my 400 Blocks into one 1600 block of HYP. I left 1 block size of around 400 HYP which is on age 19 days. So far, nothing has staked. And yes, wallet is unlocked and on the latest version Smiley
However, it always says estimated time to reward is 1 day.
sr. member
Activity: 420
Merit: 250
How often is this coin staking?

If someone have 2000 coins, after he waited 9 days.
is it staking once every 9 days? or is it staking daily?
Im no expert but I think once block stakes it makes to new blocks of roughly equal size and you need wait for stake age again

As an example....
If your block stakes after 9 days (it could be 10, 11, 12 - it's partly luck, partly due to the weight of your block, partly due to the network difficulty)
Then you'll be awarded with the interest, lets say in this case it was 500 HYP
In total you now have 2500 HYP.
The wallet will now split this into 2 equal sized blocks, so now you have:
2 Blocks of 1250 HYP each.

I hope that helps.
hero member
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How often is this coin staking?

If someone have 2000 coins, after he waited 9 days.
is it staking once every 9 days? or is it staking daily?
Im no expert but I think once block stakes it makes to new blocks of roughly equal size and you need wait for stake age again
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 250
How often is this coin staking?

If someone have 2000 coins, after he waited 9 days.
is it staking once every 9 days? or is it staking daily?
sr. member
Activity: 420
Merit: 250
Good catch but it doesn't scale well.
Say you bought 100k and you are creating blocks of 1.6k. This is 62 recipients.
There is no point in splitting smaller than about 4000 since the wallet will split anyway every time it stakes, so all you want to avoid is that the stake size is higher than 1000, which means about 4000 input size.
That means that you need to split the initial input over 4 addresses + change (5x 20k)
and then each of those 5 inputs split again over 4 addresses + change 5x 5x 4k. Ready, just 6 transfers.
You only need to create 3 extra addresses in your wallet and also set the "change" address to one of your wallet addresses.
I have done this same for other coins that needed to be split in far smaller portions, so at one point I had over 1500 inputs
in one wallet, about half of them staking (that wallet caused a lot of computer load). I guess Presstab knows what I mean, although
he would be able to recombine inputs for his 1mio coins and only have 250 inputs of 4k.

Right now my biggest input is 3364 HYP. I am collecting a large supply of smaller blocks under 1k. I am thinking that having lots of small blocks might be better in some respects. Staking is based off of hashing the information of each block. The more inputs you are hashing, the more likely you will hit the target. At least that is what I am thinking at this point. Also I don't mind having a higher wallet weight.

Presstab - I think it's great you're keeping a lot of small blocks in your wallet personally - as the largest holder, you have the greatest influence essentially in how many HYP are mined per day.
So, if you're only earning a small amount of HYP per block, and you're taking around 5-6% of the day's blocks (at an estimate) then effectively you're helping keep inflation lower, as only 960 blocks per day can stake.

Nice work Smiley
legendary
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Blockchain Developer
Good catch but it doesn't scale well.
Say you bought 100k and you are creating blocks of 1.6k. This is 62 recipients.
There is no point in splitting smaller than about 4000 since the wallet will split anyway every time it stakes, so all you want to avoid is that the stake size is higher than 1000, which means about 4000 input size.
That means that you need to split the initial input over 4 addresses + change (5x 20k)
and then each of those 5 inputs split again over 4 addresses + change 5x 5x 4k. Ready, just 6 transfers.
You only need to create 3 extra addresses in your wallet and also set the "change" address to one of your wallet addresses.
I have done this same for other coins that needed to be split in far smaller portions, so at one point I had over 1500 inputs
in one wallet, about half of them staking (that wallet caused a lot of computer load). I guess Presstab knows what I mean, although
he would be able to recombine inputs for his 1mio coins and only have 250 inputs of 4k.

Right now my biggest input is 3364 HYP. I am collecting a large supply of smaller blocks under 1k. I am thinking that having lots of small blocks might be better in some respects. Staking is based off of hashing the information of each block. The more inputs you are hashing, the more likely you will hit the target. At least that is what I am thinking at this point. Also I don't mind having a higher wallet weight.
sr. member
Activity: 433
Merit: 250
We are the first to program your future (c)
What do you guys think of this usage scenario for my needs..

I can get around $100 of BTC a week, and I would like to start with a $500 investment in HYP (already have $40, staking away Smiley

I would like to take advantage of the 20% every 10 days, essentially use at as allowance. The $100 a week would go straight to the HYP.  What do you guys think? Does HYP have the liquidity for this?


$100 is around 10k HYP now, and the daily volume is about 100k. Just try to sell in a number of small orders through a week if you can.

Is there a calculator I could use for this to see some projected earnings?

It will be on our site when it will be launched. You can calculate your projected earnings by hands using this formula:
total earnings = initial amount*(0.0205*interval)*number of intervals
where interval is your projected time to get reward (e.g. 10 days), and 0.0205 is the daily percentage multiplier.  

hero member
Activity: 595
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Good catch but it doesn't scale well.
Say you bought 100k and you are creating blocks of 1.6k. This is 62 recipients.
There is no point in splitting smaller than about 4000 since the wallet will split anyway every time it stakes, so all you want to avoid is that the stake size is higher than 1000, which means about 4000 input size.
That means that you need to split the initial input over 4 addresses + change (5x 20k)
and then each of those 5 inputs split again over 4 addresses + change 5x 5x 4k. Ready, just 6 transfers.
You only need to create 3 extra addresses in your wallet and also set the "change" address to one of your wallet addresses.
I have done this same for other coins that needed to be split in far smaller portions, so at one point I had over 1500 inputs
in one wallet, about half of them staking (that wallet caused a lot of computer load). I guess Presstab knows what I mean, although
he would be able to recombine inputs for his 1mio coins and only have 250 inputs of 4k.
legendary
Activity: 1330
Merit: 1009
What do you guys think of this usage scenario for my needs..

I can get around $100 of BTC a week, and I would like to start with a $500 investment in HYP (already have $40, staking away Smiley

I would like to take advantage of the 20% every 10 days, essentially use at as allowance. The $100 a week would go straight to the HYP.  What do you guys think? Does HYP have the liquidity for this?

ALSO

Is there a calculator I could use for this to see some projected earnings?
CiZ
member
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HyperStake Member
actually my target market is for newbie,..
 if the dev provide complete informations in one place,,.how to get started,how to buy ..etc
i'm sure  i will get new buyer here..its easy for me
like i said most of my friends is the player in online business,.but they don't know anything about crypto/hyperstake.
its hard for me to explain them..
for the dev,maybe this is the best time to modify your site..
+1

most of my friends is the player in online business,.but they don't know anything about crypto/hyperstake.
+Inf.  Cheesy
full member
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One suggestion for the wallet - would it be possible to set it up so when sending blocks to yourself, you don't have to type your passphrase every time? (obviously for only encrypted wallets)

Mine's a long one, and it gets tiresome doing it every time

It is being worked on as the last wallet version you could just unlock wallet (not just for POS) and then you could send whatever to whomever and not have to enter your passphrase everytime. Presstab is working on this currently. I currently use the last wallet version (1.0.6) if I want to combine blocks to maximize stake. Then once all have been combined, I close it down and open version 1.0.6.5 and unlock for POS only. Works great so my suggestion would be to do the same until next version when this will be corrected.
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1000
actually my target market is for newbie,..
 if the dev provide complete informations in one place,,.how to get started,how to buy ..etc
i'm sure  i will get new buyer here..its easy for me
like i said most of my friends is the player in online business,.but they don't know anything about crypto/hyperstake.
its hard for me to explain them..
for the dev,maybe this is the best time to modify your site..
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 503
Monero Core Team
You can use the sendmany rpc command. Or Just click the plus sign(add recipient) on send coins tab.
Good catch but it doesn't scale well.
Say you bought 100k and you are creating blocks of 1.6k. This is 62 recipients.

I think the question is how can we make blocks of the size we want and do it repeatedly to the same address....hopefully with a few clicks instead of many for each block sent to ourselves.

I already have this RPC call that does this but I have it commented out because its not complete. It is a loop that creates several transactions to the same address of a user defined size.  Problem is when it loops through I need to program it to discriminate which block it is splitting each time. Once I solve this it will be golden.
If you can fix the RPC call and then port it to GUI, that would be really neat for new adopters and for Hypiggy.
legendary
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Merit: 1060
May the force bit with you.
One suggestion for the wallet - would it be possible to set it up so when sending blocks to yourself, you don't have to type your passphrase every time? (obviously for only encrypted wallets)

Mine's a long one, and it gets tiresome doing it every time Smiley

rpc command walletpassphrase 9999999

If you don't set the final argument to true it is not set of unlock mint only and will not require password when sending. After done, just lock the wallet and then use the normal wallet unlock feature, to require password again.

Some coins have this options as a checkbox in the gui for unlock. So it will either unlock for mint only, or unlock everything.
sr. member
Activity: 461
Merit: 250
my wallet doesn't sync, stuck at block 90900 ( new install) i'm using win 7 64biti

I set one up yesterday on Win7 64. It wouldn't sync until I added a HyperStake.conf file, although restarts seemed to help nudge it along part way.

I thought the suggested conf file was on the OP here, but I don't see it today. Perhaps it is being edited/updated or I have just forgotten where to find it.

Anyway, the conf file I found yesterday included:

addnode=192.241.233.70
addnode=104.131.135.232

I'm guessing that the addnodes were the key to syncing.

This is interesting, using the block explorer as a DNS seed should prevent any need to use a .conf. Wonder why it is acting up?

Maybe a red herring. I just did this:

1. Shut down a synced version that was using the .conf file, was on block 112150 and had 12 connections.
2. Renamed the .conf file so it wouldn't be found.
3. Restarted qt (as admin) with no .conf file.

It synced right away, and is showing block 112152 and 10 connections after spending a minute or three with one connection.

Magic.                Wink

Addnode is doing what it says, it adds given nodes to your nodes pool which are in a file called peers.dat.
When a client appears to be stuck either you wait a little or try a re-start as you did.
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 503
Monero Core Team
Oops, I did it again. This time, it is about the "premine thing" and how HyperStake will never be considered premined, since it is an inflationary coin. It is a controversial topic, so I donned my fire proximity suit.
The virtues of inflation.
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 503
Monero Core Team
One suggestion for the wallet - would it be possible to set it up so when sending blocks to yourself, you don't have to type your passphrase every time? (obviously for only encrypted wallets)

Mine's a long one, and it gets tiresome doing it every time Smiley
Maybe by adding a verification file in the hard drive, but then it would be possible to override this behaviour to actually type the password if desired. Use case: you backed up your wallet and changed the harddrive, but forgot to backup the file. Now you lost all of your money.
Another issue with this solution is that by never actually typing your passphrase, you might end up forgetting it - do you know the phone number of your friends or does only your smartphone address book do? Personally, I do not even remember my mother's phone number (granted, she changes it often).

So, what looks like a good idea may end up terribly bad. That's the same reason why I don't use a password manager - my brain is my password manager. (and I don't use a single password, but a password scheme).

stay tune guys,.i did massive promo in fb
most of my friends is the player online business in internet, I tried to steer to hyp
Congratulations, Mig-23. I saw you contacted me today on IRC.
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