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hero member
Activity: 734
Merit: 500
Ok, new update from voting poll, so far 17 votes have been collected...nice progress i must say....

Does it tell you which votes were cast by those who don't own HYPER? Those who don't hold a stake in HYPER's future shouldn't have their vote recorded.

Well as far as i can see now, out of 17 users who voted, 15 of them hold HYPER, but they could say YES or NO without any proof if they really hold HYPER.

So far this option leads its way:
Controlled ONE TIME distribution to all user who will registered their HYPER address (distribution will be done based on their holdings) with total of 6 VOTES.


Meaning if someone wants a share of unburnt coins, will need to get his address filled with some HYPER, so really doesnt matter if you currently hold any HYPER.




we should have seen this months ago... let the market decide what it does with the extra coins. it cannot get deader than dead, right?
legendary
Activity: 1315
Merit: 1002
Ok, new update from voting poll, so far 17 votes have been collected...nice progress i must say....

Does it tell you which votes were cast by those who don't own HYPER? Those who don't hold a stake in HYPER's future shouldn't have their vote recorded.

Well as far as i can see now, out of 17 users who voted, 15 of them hold HYPER, but they could say YES or NO without any proof if they really hold HYPER.

So far this option leads its way:
Controlled ONE TIME distribution to all user who will registered their HYPER address (distribution will be done based on their holdings) with total of 6 VOTES.


Meaning if someone wants a share of unburnt coins, will need to get his address filled with some HYPER, so really doesnt matter if you currently hold any HYPER.



hero member
Activity: 2072
Merit: 761
To boldly go where no rabbit has gone before...

Currently there isn't a planned end to the poll, just enough time to let everyone submit their vote.

Ah ok, so expecting after the hollidays then
hero member
Activity: 734
Merit: 500
the burning issue has been a dead end and there is no chance of promoting the coin in this case. You are agains distribution because of dumping? You remember the coin used to have 8million coins in total before?
Dumping what they have? On who? The market is dead.
If you think this project is over let it be...

I think we will never come to an agreement here.

I'm not understanding the trust issue you have here, people trusted me enough to send me all of their old HYPER, trusted me enough to download software I provided and still provide, trusted me enough to send them their new HYPER, handle donations, spend donations, etc but you for some reason seem to think that I am not trustworthy. What have I done to make it seem like you can't trust me?

I did not say you are not trustworthy. Someone above stated "no one will believe it". Why are you throwing out these kind of accusations?
My point was that telling people you will delete the dat file knowing there CANNOT be any prove of that. This brings us to this dead end.

While you are telling me how basic economics work and explaining us the fact of more coins will cause a dump I am wondering what you think when saying this? YOU hold 25% of coins atm and we need to solve this topic otherwise this will always be a REAL danger of market crashes.

The distribution to HYPER holders is less of a danger than one person holding 25% of the coins. I am simply surprised you don't even respect this concerns.

Sorry, but I think we really won't be moving anywhere if you don't stop making up points that no one can really predict.

And please don't mix up the things I or someone else said. the fact you don't want to Give up the coins doesn't let anyone in here promote the project.

As I said I don't see any chance finding consensus with you at this point, sorry.
legendary
Activity: 1596
Merit: 1005
https://cryptodatabase.net
Guys, let's wait for the results from voting poll, instead of blaming each other.

BTW, I trust you, CryptoDatabase.

Yes, when does the vote end?

Currently there isn't a planned end to the poll, just enough time to let everyone submit their vote.
full member
Activity: 308
Merit: 100
Guys, let's wait for the results from voting poll, instead of blaming each other.

BTW, I trust you, CryptoDatabase.

Yes, when does the vote end?
legendary
Activity: 1624
Merit: 1005
I wish you all love and profitable investments!!!
Guys, let's wait for the results from voting poll, instead of blaming each other.

BTW, I trust you, CryptoDatabase.
legendary
Activity: 1596
Merit: 1005
https://cryptodatabase.net
the burning issue has been a dead end and there is no chance of promoting the coin in this case. You are agains distribution because of dumping? You remember the coin used to have 8million coins in total before?
Dumping what they have? On who? The market is dead.
If you think this project is over let it be...

I think we will never come to an agreement here.

It had 8 million in total before yes, but 2.5 million of that were dead coins bringing the total to 5.5m in circulation. Current available supply is 6.8m, the release of these coins will bring it to almost 9.4m coins. That is 58% more than what it had available before the swap.

Following basic economics and the law of supply and demand, when supply is higher than demand prices will drop. When demand is higher they will rise. When demand stays the same but supply drastically increases what do you think will happen? Just so you are aware, this is over $85,000 worth of HYPER that people want to pass out.

The markets are dead because HYPER needs more promotion. If nobody hears about HYPER then it can't grow and it will stagnate, we need to reach out and spread the word.

Part of the HYPER budget will soon be used to reward users who post articles regarding HYPER on social media, forums, blogs, or other sites that help promote it. We've already discussed it and just have to work out a system for the amount of HYPER per article.

I'm not understanding the trust issue you have here, people trusted me enough to send me all of their old HYPER, trusted me enough to download software I provided and still provide, trusted me enough to send them their new HYPER, handle donations, spend donations, etc but you for some reason seem to think that I am not trustworthy. What have I done to make it seem like you can't trust me?
hero member
Activity: 734
Merit: 500
please, don't be childish... I have explained to you that we can ask the community. What do you expect from me now? Am I to blame nothing moved in the last months re burning the coins? I mentioned my idea and you always made it look stupid and ridicouls. so .... tell me more please.

We have asked the community for help and nobody is willing to help, now we are asking for help again. Our plan to burn the coins failed due to the burn command not working and we have been unable to find someone to fix it. Burning coins completely hasn't been done so of course it will be hard to do.

If nobody wants to help then we can easily start making decisions to suit our needs instead of yours. The easiest way for us to be done with these remaining swap coins, and what I want to do, is to delete the wallet.dat and the coins will be forever gone. Instead, we are still here after many months trying to move forward.

Our past effort has failed, so now we are trying something new. If our new method fails then so will this coin so people can either get with the program or move on. I'm not going to keep investing my time and my money into the future of this coin if all we are going to catch is bullshit.

Ways for people to help,

1. Promote HYPER on social media and forum outlets, exposure is our biggest problem.

2.Ask around to see if any developers would be willing to contract work for HYPER, things such as the completion of the new themed wallet, burn command, and other stuff.

3. Work together and not expect 2 people to do 100% of the work for hundreds of people.

with all respect... please don't mix up the history passed by... I gave you 5000 hyper as a donation, because I was thankful.

Then the drama started, you have personal issues with topia, so we couldn't move on with exchanges. the community was promoting in the beginning. Then the burning issue never was addressed properly. So what do you expect then? We promote a coin where the dev hold 25% of coins?

Thats why I told you to get rid off it by distributing it and you NEVER considered it a good solution.

Now YOU are complaining about the community.

We appreciate your donation and it has helped yes. I was referring to help in regards to promoting the coin, helping the board get stuff completed, etc. Money can only go so far, effort is the most valuable resource and it goes a lot further.

For the swap balance, it still isn't a good solution to increase the circulating supply by 37%. This has a very good probability of crashing the price as people just dump what they get. I have been, and will always be, against distributing these coins to anyone other than the dark void.

However, if the majority of those who use HYPER want to see it distributed then as I always have done I will do my best to carry it out. The first vote, users voted against distributing it and instead voted to burn it. Circumstances have changed since then requiring new options to be tried and now here we are.

As for Cryptopia, I have no issues with any coin I support being listed there and have stated this clearly. Do I want it there? No, they stole money from my friends. Will I care if it is? No, I simply won't use it and risk my own funds. Cryptopia not wanting to list HYPER is not my decision, it is theirs. If you have complaints about HYPER and Cryptopia then you should go talk to them as HYPER not being listed there has nothing to do with what I want or don't want.

What about the burning issue hasn't been properly addressed?

the burning issue has been a dead end and there is no chance of promoting the coin in this case. You are agains distribution because of dumping? You remember the coin used to have 8million coins in total before?
Dumping what they have? On who? The market is dead.
If you think this project is over let it be...

I think we will never come to an agreement here.
legendary
Activity: 1596
Merit: 1005
https://cryptodatabase.net
please, don't be childish... I have explained to you that we can ask the community. What do you expect from me now? Am I to blame nothing moved in the last months re burning the coins? I mentioned my idea and you always made it look stupid and ridicouls. so .... tell me more please.

We have asked the community for help and nobody is willing to help, now we are asking for help again. Our plan to burn the coins failed due to the burn command not working and we have been unable to find someone to fix it. Burning coins completely hasn't been done so of course it will be hard to do.

If nobody wants to help then we can easily start making decisions to suit our needs instead of yours. The easiest way for us to be done with these remaining swap coins, and what I want to do, is to delete the wallet.dat and the coins will be forever gone. Instead, we are still here after many months trying to move forward.

Our past effort has failed, so now we are trying something new. If our new method fails then so will this coin so people can either get with the program or move on. I'm not going to keep investing my time and my money into the future of this coin if all we are going to catch is bullshit.

Ways for people to help,

1. Promote HYPER on social media and forum outlets, exposure is our biggest problem.

2.Ask around to see if any developers would be willing to contract work for HYPER, things such as the completion of the new themed wallet, burn command, and other stuff.

3. Work together and not expect 2 people to do 100% of the work for hundreds of people.

with all respect... please don't mix up the history passed by... I gave you 5000 hyper as a donation, because I was thankful.

Then the drama started, you have personal issues with topia, so we couldn't move on with exchanges. the community was promoting in the beginning. Then the burning issue never was addressed properly. So what do you expect then? We promote a coin where the dev hold 25% of coins?

Thats why I told you to get rid off it by distributing it and you NEVER considered it a good solution.

Now YOU are complaining about the community.

We appreciate your donation and it has helped yes. I was referring to help in regards to promoting the coin, helping the board get stuff completed, etc. Money can only go so far, effort is the most valuable resource and it goes a lot further.

For the swap balance, it still isn't a good solution to increase the circulating supply by 37%. This has a very good probability of crashing the price as people just dump what they get. I have been, and will always be, against distributing these coins to anyone other than the dark void.

However, if the majority of those who use HYPER want to see it distributed then as I always have done I will do my best to carry it out. The first vote, users voted against distributing it and instead voted to burn it. Circumstances have changed since then requiring new options to be tried and now here we are.

As for Cryptopia, I have no issues with any coin I support being listed there and have stated this clearly. Do I want it there? No, they stole money from my friends. Will I care if it is? No, I simply won't use it and risk my own funds. Cryptopia not wanting to list HYPER is not my decision, it is theirs. If you have complaints about HYPER and Cryptopia then you should go talk to them as HYPER not being listed there has nothing to do with what I want or don't want.

What about the burning issue hasn't been properly addressed?
hero member
Activity: 734
Merit: 500
please, don't be childish... I have explained to you that we can ask the community. What do you expect from me now? Am I to blame nothing moved in the last months re burning the coins? I mentioned my idea and you always made it look stupid and ridicouls. so .... tell me more please.

We have asked the community for help and nobody is willing to help, now we are asking for help again. Our plan to burn the coins failed due to the burn command not working and we have been unable to find someone to fix it. Burning coins completely hasn't been done so of course it will be hard to do.

If nobody wants to help then we can easily start making decisions to suit our needs instead of yours. The easiest way for us to be done with these remaining swap coins, and what I want to do, is to delete the wallet.dat and the coins will be forever gone. Instead, we are still here after many months trying to move forward.

Our past effort has failed, so now we are trying something new. If our new method fails then so will this coin so people can either get with the program or move on. I'm not going to keep investing my time and my money into the future of this coin if all we are going to catch is bullshit.

Ways for people to help,

1. Promote HYPER on social media and forum outlets, exposure is our biggest problem.

2.Ask around to see if any developers would be willing to contract work for HYPER, things such as the completion of the new themed wallet, burn command, and other stuff.

3. Work together and not expect 2 people to do 100% of the work for hundreds of people.

with all respect... please don't mix up the history passed by... I gave you 5000 hyper as a donation, because I was thankful.

Then the drama started, you have personal issues with topia, so we couldn't move on with exchanges. the community was promoting in the beginning. Then the burning issue never was addressed properly. So what do you expect then? We promote a coin where the dev hold 25% of coins?

Thats why I told you to get rid off it by distributing it and you NEVER considered it a good solution.

Now YOU are complaining about the community.
legendary
Activity: 1596
Merit: 1005
https://cryptodatabase.net

deleting the wallet.dat is not going to work

nobody will believe it was deleted

its simple stake the wallet and the staked coins can be the development funding.

put the wallet addresss public and make everything transparent.

or contact some devs who will make this coin remotely interesting from a tech standpoint and give them the coins over time for continued support.

presstab, fuzzballs any developer that will cut this crazy pos rate and introduce some masternodes anon etc...

shame this coin died out started off really nice.

We already have a HYPER dev fund that stakes with everything being transparent.

Master nodes are the death of decentralization, leaving full control over the coin with just a few people with everyone else just getting scraps.

For the stake rate, I've always been for lowering the percent. Moving forward into the next immediate stage of staking would be in our best interest as it is 5% per year instead of per month.

For whether or not people trust that I deleted it, that is up to them. If I say I deleted it then it was deleted. For anyone worried about it being dumped, I already own enough HYPER personally to where I could crash every exchange that has it listed at any time I feel like it. I don't need the swap balance to do that. Not only that, but there are several people who own much much more HYPER than I do that could easily do the same.

This is not a worry people should have from me, if I wanted to kill HYPER then I wouldn't have put thousands of my own money into this coin to get it going again and I sure as hell wouldn't be paying for the gaming competitions held every week for HYPER or include it in my games and services.
legendary
Activity: 2100
Merit: 1167
MY RED TRUST LEFT BY SCUMBAGS - READ MY SIG
please, don't be childish... I have explained to you that we can ask the community. What do you expect from me now? Am I to blame nothing moved in the last months re burning the coins? I mentioned my idea and you always made it look stupid and ridicouls. so .... tell me more please.

We have asked the community for help and nobody is willing to help, now we are asking for help again. Our plan to burn the coins failed due to the burn command not working and we have been unable to find someone to fix it. Burning coins completely hasn't been done so of course it will be hard to do.

If nobody wants to help then we can easily start making decisions to suit our needs instead of yours. The easiest way for us to be done with these remaining swap coins, and what I want to do, is to delete the wallet.dat and the coins will be forever gone. Instead, we are still here after many months trying to move forward.

Our past effort has failed, so now we are trying something new. If our new method fails then so will this coin so people can either get with the program or move on. I'm not going to keep investing my time and my money into the future of this coin if all we are going to catch is bullshit.

Ways for people to help,

1. Promote HYPER on social media and forum outlets, exposure is our biggest problem.

2.Ask around to see if any developers would be willing to contract work for HYPER, things such as the completion of the new themed wallet, burn command, and other stuff.

3. Work together and not expect 2 people to do 100% of the work for hundreds of people.


deleting the wallet.dat is not going to work

nobody will believe it was deleted

its simple stake the wallet and the staked coins can be the development funding.

put the wallet addresss public and make everything transparent.

or contact some devs who will make this coin remotely interesting from a tech standpoint and give them the coins over time for continued support.

presstab, fuzzballs any developer that will cut this crazy pos rate and introduce some masternodes anon etc...

shame this coin died out started off really nice.
legendary
Activity: 1596
Merit: 1005
https://cryptodatabase.net
please, don't be childish... I have explained to you that we can ask the community. What do you expect from me now? Am I to blame nothing moved in the last months re burning the coins? I mentioned my idea and you always made it look stupid and ridicouls. so .... tell me more please.

We have asked the community for help and nobody is willing to help, now we are asking for help again. Our plan to burn the coins failed due to the burn command not working and we have been unable to find someone to fix it. Burning coins completely hasn't been done so of course it will be hard to do.

If nobody wants to help then we can easily start making decisions to suit our needs instead of yours. The easiest way for us to be done with these remaining swap coins, and what I want to do, is to delete the wallet.dat and the coins will be forever gone. Instead, we are still here after many months trying to move forward.

Our past effort has failed, so now we are trying something new. If our new method fails then so will this coin so people can either get with the program or move on. I'm not going to keep investing my time and my money into the future of this coin if all we are going to catch is bullshit.

Ways for people to help,

1. Promote HYPER on social media and forum outlets, exposure is our biggest problem.

2.Ask around to see if any developers would be willing to contract work for HYPER, things such as the completion of the new themed wallet, burn command, and other stuff.

3. Work together and not expect 2 people to do 100% of the work for hundreds of people.
legendary
Activity: 1596
Merit: 1005
https://cryptodatabase.net
Ok, new update from voting poll, so far 17 votes have been collected...nice progress i must say....

Does it tell you which votes were cast by those who don't own HYPER? Those who don't hold a stake in HYPER's future shouldn't have their vote recorded.
legendary
Activity: 1315
Merit: 1002
look guys, I told you months ago to simply distribute the coins by % of stakes and forget move on instead of stalling everything for months.

you were completely against it and now you suggest it?  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

are you serious?  its sad... I donated 5000 hyper after the swap because I really appreciated all your hard work, but this is simply ridiculous.

why not simply make decisions instead of hoping for a solution from heaven?

Yes, and we are now making a proposal what to do.

And it seems like, we are going the way you proposed.

Making a decision based on individual is not the way to go, we always must put community first and ask them what they want.

You always had and still have a chance to step forward and make a move, instead of waiting for someone else to do the job. Why don't you take an initiative?




please, don't be childish... I have explained to you that we can ask the community. What do you expect from me now? Am I to blame nothing moved in the last months re burning the coins? I mentioned my idea and you always made it look stupid and ridicouls. so .... tell me more please.

I dont know what you want now, i am doing this in my free time, completely free, trying to move things from dead spot and with your attitude, I just dont understand. Leave your vote like everyone else did and you will do your job, if you like.
hero member
Activity: 734
Merit: 500
look guys, I told you months ago to simply distribute the coins by % of stakes and forget move on instead of stalling everything for months.

you were completely against it and now you suggest it?  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

are you serious?  its sad... I donated 5000 hyper after the swap because I really appreciated all your hard work, but this is simply ridiculous.

why not simply make decisions instead of hoping for a solution from heaven?

Yes, and we are now making a proposal what to do.

And it seems like, we are going the way you proposed.

Making a decision based on individual is not the way to go, we always must put community first and ask them what they want.

You always had and still have a chance to step forward and make a move, instead of waiting for someone else to do the job. Why don't you take an initiative?




please, don't be childish... I have explained to you that we can ask the community. What do you expect from me now? Am I to blame nothing moved in the last months re burning the coins? I mentioned my idea and you always made it look stupid and ridicouls. so .... tell me more please.
member
Activity: 406
Merit: 13
Oh wow, novaexchange is getting buttf**ked
legendary
Activity: 1315
Merit: 1002
112 satoshi is pretty decent

Seems to be no buy support? Maybe it just needs some promotion

Again...(read first then post, not vice versa):
Dont use novaexchange, hence you wont be able to use it since its closing its business, read more if not yet informed why and how...click here and scroll down....https://novaexchange.com/news/

Alternatives are:
https://www.yobit.net/en/trade/HYPERX/BTC
https://www.coinexchange.io/market/HYPER/BTC




member
Activity: 420
Merit: 11
112 satoshi is pretty decent

Seems to be no buy support? Maybe it just needs some promotion
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