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Quote from: btc78 on February 28, 2023, 03:34:26 AM

Quote from: piebeyb on February 28, 2023, 02:41:33 AM

I once read a thread about someone who bet millions of dollars just because of a small profit with low odds of no more than 1.05 and he was sure he would win and could win the match, but in the end he lost, learn from that experience so you don't easily trust other people when betting , even though the results are told by someone or even the dealer, so the most important thing is to play with your own analysis at your own risk because even if it is 100% accurate I will not bet on anyone's words

that reminds me of same thing mate and yes now I come to idea that maybe that same person who tries to believe in fixed match that is why with so low odds he still manage to ben and lose?
but lets go back to the OP's question in which I find it truly hypothetic because it is impossible for an assurance of having fixed match to be offered to us.
even millionaires failed on this event like what you mentioned.

You are both right and that's why even though we get a leak of info about the results of the match, we still can't use a lot of money to bet only because of the info. Who knows, in the middle of the match, something can surprise everyone and finally change the match, causing our choice to lose. That will be very painful to see what we do become detrimental to us. By anticipating and preventing using a lot of money for betting, at least we do not waste the money for one match because there are still many other matches that we can choose as betting. Well, it will still return to everyone because they will have opinions. Some will take that risk by using a lot of money because they think the info is 100% trustworthy.

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Quote from: NAPK1NS_RA3 on February 27, 2023, 04:51:52 AM

If you were told the outcome of a soccer match, hours before the match was scheduled, and you were assured that it would 100% win, how much would you be willing to bet on it? Assuming it was a 100% can’t lose situation.

Assuming you had millions of dollars that you could put on the match, where would you place the bets? Bookies often limit players. How could one successfully place millions of dollars in bets without drawing up suspicions or having their money frozen? Just curious.

The last thing that you don't want to happen to your account is getting frozen with millions on it if you are in Drake-like status and you are a high roller betting you can escape getting your account tagged, but if you are thousand dollar bettors and you usually bet earlier and never a last minute bettor, they will question your motives.
So bet within your betting range if you have accounts on many sports bookies then spread your bet to avoid suspicion, casinos will trigger an alarm for any usual bets this is something high rollers and old gamblers know, they can proceed at their own risk, but the risk is too high.

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Quote from: NAPK1NS_RA3 on February 27, 2023, 04:51:52 AM

If you were told the outcome of a soccer match, hours before the match was scheduled, and you were assured that it would 100% win, how much would you be willing to bet on it? Assuming it was a 100% can’t lose situation.

Assuming you had millions of dollars that you could put on the match, where would you place the bets? Bookies often limit players. How could one successfully place millions of dollars in bets without drawing up suspicions or having their money frozen? Just curious.

I'd bet as much as I could, possibly even calling the assistance of friends/families that can place a bet in my place. If that ain't possible then just get what I probably can really. Ofc realistically speaking odds of what someone said happening 100% is close to nothing, so I hardly doubt such an opportunity would ever come. Unless I was the one who will orchestrate the entire thing, in which case every secret is available to me and would basically give me enough guarantee to bet big.

Even then though I wouldn't dare say that the match fix I'm doing will result in a 100% win, after all, unexpected events can always occur.

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Quote from: NAPK1NS_RA3 on February 27, 2023, 04:51:52 AM

If you were told the outcome of a soccer match, hours before the match was scheduled, and you were assured that it would 100% win, how much would you be willing to bet on it? Assuming it was a 100% can’t lose situation.

In this case I will try to verify how true or reliable the source of news. If I get any temptation of this, I will never bet on a big deal. Because such rumors are often heard. After the bet, when the results will be different, there will be nothing to do. Fixing information is never leaked. If it comes out, then you have to understand that there something is wrong. In my perception it will be better to avoid such situations.

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Quote from: NAPK1NS_RA3 on February 27, 2023, 04:51:52 AM

If you were told the outcome of a soccer match, hours before the match was scheduled, and you were assured that it would 100% win, how much would you be willing to bet on it? Assuming it was a 100% can’t lose situation.

I do not think there it is possible that there is any situation that is a 100% can't loose situation in gambling, this is my conviction, and with that, even if it is a hypothetical situation that you have stated that there cannot be losses, I still will want to play it safe due to my already strong convictions and still risk an amount that I can afford to loose. I will not go all in like most people will.

Maintaining discipline in gambling is important. You must learn to have strong convictions so you are not easily swayed by the promise of sure games and big wins. Always play it safe.

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Quote from: piebeyb on February 28, 2023, 02:41:33 AM

I once read a thread about someone who bet millions of dollars just because of a small profit with low odds of no more than 1.05 and he was sure he would win and could win the match, but in the end he lost, learn from that experience so you don't easily trust other people when betting , even though the results are told by someone or even the dealer, so the most important thing is to play with your own analysis at your own risk because even if it is 100% accurate I will not bet on anyone's words

that reminds me of same thing mate and yes now I come to idea that maybe that same person who tries to believe in fixed match that is why with so low odds he still manage to ben and lose?
but lets go back to the OP's question in which I find it truly hypothetic because it is impossible for an assurance of having fixed match to be offered to us.
even millionaires failed on this event like what you mentioned.

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I guess most people would be very doubtful. I am not very into gambling mindset so I would be very very worried to bet too much money even if it was guarenteed bet. I would think there must be reason why I know this and probably its a trap. Anyways I would also be worried about anyone other realizing I know outcome and cancel bets. I would think I should avoid this. How? I wouldn't bet at maximum level, just bit more under it. It could be enough for me.

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I once read a thread about someone who bet millions of dollars just because of a small profit with low odds of no more than 1.05 and he was sure he would win and could win the match, but in the end he lost, learn from that experience so you don't easily trust other people when betting , even though the results are told by someone or even the dealer, so the most important thing is to play with your own analysis at your own risk because even if it is 100% accurate I will not bet on anyone's words

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Quote from: NAPK1NS_RA3 on February 27, 2023, 04:51:52 AM

If you were told the outcome of a soccer match, hours before the match was scheduled, and you were assured that it would 100% win, how much would you be willing to bet on it? Assuming it was a 100% can’t lose situation.

then I will bet all of my savings , all of my assets even House and Lot to bet in ? since you are asking this Hypothetically lol.

I hate seeing this kind of answer but I only knew this to be related to your dream of believing in fixed matches.

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Assuming you had millions of dollars that you could put on the match, where would you place the bets? Bookies often limit players. How could one successfully place millions of dollars in bets without drawing up suspicions or having their money frozen? Just curious.

i will bet in different sites , there are tons of sites around that offers sports betting then why stick to one?

bet with all of them then you will not be in suspicions .

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Quote from: NAPK1NS_RA3 on February 27, 2023, 04:51:52 AM

If you were told the outcome of a soccer match, hours before the match was scheduled, and you were assured that it would 100% win, how much would you be willing to bet on it? Assuming it was a 100% can’t lose situation.

Please, disregard the notion that a bet is a no-lose possibility, that is not going to happen. There are best matches with the greatest chance that have lost and there are bets with the worst chance that won. Don't trust anyone or any match to that 100% extent, and no matter how sure you are, manage your risks accordingly.

Quote from: NAPK1NS_RA3 on February 27, 2023, 04:51:52 AM

Assuming you had millions of dollars that you could put on the match, where would you place the bets? Bookies often limit players. How could one successfully place millions of dollars in bets without drawing up suspicions or having their money frozen? Just curious.

Of course, they are doing this often, just don't use cash if your hands are clean, then it will all be between you and the house. Nonetheless, be certain of the credibility of the casino you are entrusting such an amount to.

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Quote from: NAPK1NS_RA3 on February 27, 2023, 04:51:52 AM

If you were told the outcome of a soccer match, hours before the match was scheduled, and you were assured that it would 100% win, how much would you be willing to bet on it? Assuming it was a 100% can’t lose situation.

Assuming you had millions of dollars that you could put on the match, where would you place the bets? Bookies often limit players. How could one successfully place millions of dollars in bets without drawing up suspicions or having their money frozen? Just curious.

I would bet 50-100 USD, not more. Betting large amounts on a single game would probably make the bookies suspicious and they would block your bet. Another thing is that I would never bet a big amount on a game, just because somebody told me that he is 100% sure about the game being rigged. You never know who is lying and who is telling the truth. I'm curious. How could somebody prove to you that a match is going to be rigged? He talked to the players or maybe the coach of one of the teams? He talked to the owner/s of one of the teams?
Do you seriously believe in such sh*t? Grin

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Well, if you are signed up or registered with many Sport betting casinos, you will not have any issues if you place smaller bets on those casinos, but new signups will raise a red flag and your account might be blocked.

Do you have friends and family that can spread your bets on their accounts, because that will not put too much focus on any individual? Just remember one thing, the timing for this are also crucial if we are looking at a significant amount of money... because the bets will change the odds, if it all goes to the same team... Roll Eyes

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Quote from: mindrust on February 27, 2023, 06:44:16 AM

Quote from: NAPK1NS_RA3 on February 27, 2023, 04:51:52 AM

If you were told the outcome of a soccer match, hours before the match was scheduled, and you were assured that it would 100% win, how much would you be willing to bet on it? Assuming it was a 100% can’t lose situation.

Assuming you had millions of dollars that you could put on the match, where would you place the bets? Bookies often limit players. How could one successfully place millions of dollars in bets without drawing up suspicions or having their money frozen? Just curious.

Everything? That's what I would do "normally".

However... if I learned one thing about these bets, they are never 100% sure. Cool

Lots of stuff can go wrong. Even if you win the bet, the bookie may cancel your bet because they also hear the same rumors.

So when think about the other issues which can indirectly affect your bet, that 100% (wager everything) may easily fall down to 1%.

Haha that’s true and my biggest concern with a situation like this. Even when you win they don’t payout.

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Depends on the level of KYC. When we are talking about above 20 thousand USD, that is where the questions begin especially if you are doing it in just one big bet. For a newly created account, I doubt it can be done but for old ones who have a history of making big bets then no questions will come out.
The Money Laundering Act will always come first and maybe they will be asking for your details just to prove where that money came from.
It's a protection for both the business and the gambler. Just imagine if illegal money is being used on gambling sites, that would be unfair to those who have risked their hard-earned money.
Overall, it will come down to KYC.

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Quote from: NAPK1NS_RA3 on February 27, 2023, 04:51:52 AM

If you were told the outcome of a soccer match, hours before the match was scheduled, and you were assured that it would 100% win, how much would you be willing to bet on it? Assuming it was a 100% can’t lose situation.

Assuming you had millions of dollars that you could put on the match, where would you place the bets? Bookies often limit players. How could one successfully place millions of dollars in bets without drawing up suspicions or having their money frozen? Just curious.

Placing a million dollar bet won't gonna be a problem if You're
regularly gambling to that specific website. However, if you're relatively new to that gambling platform, it's more likely not gonna place a bet that huge, because either you are going to have a limit or your account will be hold for having such 1 massive bet on that specific sport.
But, what I'm most likely gonna do if we have that certain situation, is I would exhaust all available limit that I have on my account (not gonna be million of course) lol.

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Quote from: NAPK1NS_RA3 on February 27, 2023, 04:51:52 AM

If you were told the outcome of a soccer match, hours before the match was scheduled, and you were assured that it would 100% win, how much would you be willing to bet on it? Assuming it was a 100% can’t lose situation.

I'm sceptic, I wouldn't believe until match result has actually come out and then be sad about why didn't I bet more Tongue

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Assuming you had millions of dollars that you could put on the match, where would you place the bets? Bookies often limit players. How could one successfully place millions of dollars in bets without drawing up suspicions or having their money frozen? Just curious.

I'd stick with on-chain casinos with million dollars. Anywhere else, it gonna draw eyeballs.

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Quote from: NAPK1NS_RA3 on February 27, 2023, 04:51:52 AM

If you were told the outcome of a soccer match, hours before the match was scheduled, and you were assured that it would 100% win, how much would you be willing to bet on it? Assuming it was a 100% can’t lose situation.

Assuming you had millions of dollars that you could put on the match, where would you place the bets? Bookies often limit players. How could one successfully place millions of dollars in bets without drawing up suspicions or having their money frozen? Just curious.

The example you give is unrealistic, you can never be 100% sure how a match is going to end, not even if you have bought the teams. For the sake of argument, if it was really 100% I would put the maximum I could legally bet on.

Quote from: Alisha-k on February 27, 2023, 08:05:22 PM

Even if millions of dollars could be placed on a bet without been frozen, I wouldn't risk that at all, if the amount can't be lesser then the bet isn't for me.
Anything could happen, a 100% assurance in a game isn't guaranteed still, so what if the unexpected happens??

Of course, if we are talking about a more realistic certainty, let's say 95%, because let's say that someone very reliable has told you that the match is fixed, I would put a good amount, but always thinking about the 5% or the small probability that something does not go according to plan.

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If I could get info on a match that guaranteed me a 100% win, I'd bet under $50 because that's the amount I have available to gamble with.
That amount of money was a fund I was prepared to gamble with and nothing more because I was too scared to see the loss after defeat I could suffer even if I got valid info about the game.
I also don't want the casino to suspect my activity of placing too large bets because if I win easily, they can immediately investigate my account.
It really hurts if it turns out that the casino has frozen our account, especially if we have been playing at the casino for a long time.

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Quote from: NAPK1NS_RA3 on February 27, 2023, 04:51:52 AM

If you were told the outcome of a soccer match, hours before the match was scheduled, and you were assured that it would 100% win, how much would you be willing to bet on it? Assuming it was a 100% can’t lose situation.

Assuming you had millions of dollars that you could put on the match, where would you place the bets? Bookies often limit players. How could one successfully place millions of dollars in bets without drawing up suspicions or having their money frozen? Just curious.

That can be said to be a fix match and is common in sports that are not so well known or if it happens in famous sports such as football it will occur in small leagues and bookmakers will not provide the opportunity to make a big bet on a betting market like that, so that's all if that will not happen, especially people who already have millions of dollars will not have time to take care of such things

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If I were told the outcome of a soccer match before the match was even scheduled, I won't believe it. I would suspect it immediately and ask a lot of questions. It is possible I will be convinced or not in the end. Depending on that, I will limit my bet. But I will never go all in. Even if it is convincing, I will just place a bet I can afford to lose. I usually don't trust those who claim to know that a certain match is fixed. There have been so many similar claims which proved to be all lies in the end.

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