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Quote from: NAPK1NS_RA3 on February 27, 2023, 04:51:52 AM

If you were told the outcome of a soccer match, hours before the match was scheduled, and you were assured that it would 100% win, how much would you be willing to bet on it? Assuming it was a 100% can’t lose situation.

Assuming you had millions of dollars that you could put on the match, where would you place the bets? Bookies often limit players. How could one successfully place millions of dollars in bets without drawing up suspicions or having their money frozen? Just curious.

Save for the blatant fraud that you're clearly participating, I think your best bet is to create multiple accounts all with different portions of that 1 million dollars, all betting on the same team, at different intervals so as to not arouse suspicion. If this is a live sporting event you're betting on and you are looking to bet on live bookies as well, hiring people you can trust with the money is a good thing too, just make sure they come in and place their bets at different time intervals, to ensure that you are not raising anyone's suspicion.

Although personally, match fixing takes the fun out of betting, especially if you're gambling for entertainment. You already know who's going to win, so most likely you will have to bet on the winning team, otherwise you are a dumbass for betting on the losing team knowing who's going to win in the first place.

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Quote from: NAPK1NS_RA3 on February 27, 2023, 04:51:52 AM

If you were told the outcome of a soccer match, hours before the match was scheduled, and you were assured that it would 100% win, how much would you be willing to bet on it? Assuming it was a 100% can’t lose situation.

Assuming you had millions of dollars that you could put on the match, where would you place the bets? Bookies often limit players. How could one successfully place millions of dollars in bets without drawing up suspicions or having their money frozen? Just curious.

If it is 100% sure, then I will all-in. It is a sure thing as the condition is 100% win. Better take the opportunity at its fullest than regret later. I will place the bet on a reputable platform where I am fully verified and had been playing for years. I am sure as long as your account is clear and the source of bet is also documented, there will be no problem withdrawing the fund. It might have some delay due to security but I am sure it will not draw any suspicion.

But in reality, we know that there is no 100% sure win in any gambling, so whether it is true or not, I will only bet what I can afford to lose.

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Quote from: NAPK1NS_RA3 on February 27, 2023, 04:51:52 AM

If you were told the outcome of a soccer match, hours before the match was scheduled, and you were assured that it would 100% win, how much would you be willing to bet on it? Assuming it was a 100% can’t lose situation.

Assuming you had millions of dollars that you could put on the match, where would you place the bets? Bookies often limit players. How could one successfully place millions of dollars in bets without drawing up suspicions or having their money frozen? Just curious.

Assuming it was 100% guaranteed, you'd essentially be participating in match fixing which is a form of fraud. Placing it at one venue would like arouse a lot of suspicion if it was not in line with your normal betting amounts, so the only way to avoid a criminal or civil case would be to spread your bets across at least 20 book makers, if you're placing $50k at each. Alternatively you might only want to put half of your million down because freak events could hit that are beyond the scope of what you can control, but you might still be liable for the bet. It also greatly depends on the amount you might win back, is it double your money or is it 10% up? It might not be worth the risk for the latter. That is, if you think it's ethical to basically cheat at a game.

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Quote from: NAPK1NS_RA3 on February 27, 2023, 04:51:52 AM

If you were told the outcome of a soccer match, hours before the match was scheduled, and you were assured that it would 100% win, how much would you be willing to bet on it? Assuming it was a 100% can’t lose situation.

I will only speak realistically.

First of all, throughout my experience in sports betting. I dare not speculate that I will predict a 100% win match. The rules you have to remember, in sports betting specifically what we discuss is football. a strong team, will not always win the battle in every match. because, in 2x45 minutes, anything can happen. in fact, teams that are not seeded often surprise. the second rule, losing and winning is normal and it can happen to any team. one mistake made by a player, can have an impact on the team's overall game. and the most important thing for us to remember, there are no accurate and certain predictions even though we have analyzed them first. in the end, the result would be determined after the bout ended.

related to the problem of placing a bet with a fantastic value, the other members before my post have said some of their opinions.

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There's never a 100% bet. If someone was trying to sell me on that I'd suspect foul play. You just cannot be that sure and there's always a chance things will go bad for you.

It doesn't matter if I had millions or had the money I have right now I'd never bet it all. I'd maybe, but MAYBE, if I really trusted that guy, bet a third of my money. If I had a million I'd bet 300 000.
If this was someone unknown to me who fixes matches or something I'd maybe bet a 100 for fun. Nothing serious.

I'd probably go to a number of bookies if I wanted to bet that much. You can bet online even after the match has started so I'd simply wire cryptocurrency there with high fee. Everything would be in place within 1 hour. I'd choose at least 2 different sites and take some cash to a local physical bookie.

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Quote from: NAPK1NS_RA3 on February 27, 2023, 04:51:52 AM

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Even if I am assured by a person I know well, whose reputation is impeccable, that he knows 100% of the outcome of the upcoming match I would still not bet more than I can afford to lose as I know from experience that sometimes things happen that should not happen. And in gambling anything can happen, so I'll just bet within my limits and if I win I'll share my winnings with that person.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on February 27, 2023, 06:26:48 AM

At most, I would use $100 to bet on that team even if I was 100% sure I won. I don't want to take too big a risk for a bet, especially if I use too much money. I'd rather play it safe with the money I can afford to lose. That way, if the game turned around, my loss wouldn't be more than I could afford.

People who frequently place million dollar bets succeed in convincing the casinos that they have a lot of money and maybe they have also gone through the KYC process to be allowed to use big money. We will not know about it for sure and can only suspect it. What's important, we know how to limit ourselves by not placing bets we can't afford.

Good for you if you set a limit in betting, regardless if you know that you have high chances in winning the bet. However, for high rollers, they will always bet in maximum amount and expect huge amount of reward. But most likely with this given situation, it’s like you are trying to be deceived with a match fixing. So I don’t think it’s safe to place millions in betting. There’s no assurance that you will win from it since gambling will always be unpredictable. And it will always create suspicion no matter how hard you try to bet from different bookies as betting with such a huge amount in the last minute will always may be somehow unusual.

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I have the sensation that you are or want to enter a scheme to manipulate games from the games and want to know where you can bet a lot of money and withdraw without suspicious problems or lifts, but currently with the pressing governments any service provider involving money that involves money demanding that their customers do Kyc, and it is impossible for people to bet a lot of money without raising suspicions and sin Kyc

My advice: Do not engage in anything dark, always follow the law, use the casinos responsibly, and respect the casinos and the laws of governments, avoid placing million dollars in the dark casinos and even if a casino is reliable, play and Bet with moderation, there are no 100% guaranteed victory

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Quote from: maydna on February 27, 2023, 10:56:36 AM

Having millions of dollars doesn't mean I have to put hundreds of thousands of dollars into sports betting, even if it's a 100% win. I feel better placing bets as usual and not using big bucks because that might make the bookies suspect me, especially if I've never placed a bet above $1,000. Instead of having my account frozen because I want to win big, I prefer to bet small and get enough wins for me. In addition, I can place in other sports betting with the same bet as before.

I agree with you because it is too risky to bet on sports betting with a bet amount of up to hundreds of thousands of dollars because if we manage to win it then the winning amount can reach an unreasonable amount and of course there will be other parties who make it difficult for us because the victory is even worse again we will never be able to get money from the winnings along with the money we use to bet.
Isn't it just a loss that we will get.
It's better to bet a reasonable amount but we can enjoy it than using big money but in the end it will just disappear.

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I would bet exactly here the amount that the bookmaker can accept.I would place other bets through friends, but already in other bookmakers.Many have written correctly here: there are limits on many sites and the account will simply be frozen until all the circumstances are clarified, so it's better to put the amount that falls within the limit and no more.

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Having millions of dollars doesn't mean I have to put hundreds of thousands of dollars into sports betting, even if it's a 100% win. I feel better placing bets as usual and not using big bucks because that might make the bookies suspect me, especially if I've never placed a bet above $1,000. Instead of having my account frozen because I want to win big, I prefer to bet small and get enough wins for me. In addition, I can place in other sports betting with the same bet as before.

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Quote from: NAPK1NS_RA3 on February 27, 2023, 04:51:52 AM

If you were told the outcome of a soccer match, hours before the match was scheduled, and you were assured that it would 100% win, how much would you be willing to bet on it? Assuming it was a 100% can’t lose situation.

Assuming you had millions of dollars that you could put on the match, where would you place the bets? Bookies often limit players. How could one successfully place millions of dollars in bets without drawing up suspicions or having their money frozen? Just curious.

First of all, I think you should verify your info first and read ToS, because if you will going to bet millions of dollars in a single match it could be really suspicious other people can only bet hundreds to thousands because they knew that there are some limitations and also sports betting is kinda unpredictable than other games, if it is very predictable then it is a fixed match for sure, your account will be in investigation and that teams might be investigated as well.

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Quote from: NAPK1NS_RA3 on February 27, 2023, 04:51:52 AM

If you were told the outcome of a soccer match, hours before the match was scheduled, and you were assured that it would 100% win, how much would you be willing to bet on it? Assuming it was a 100% can’t lose situation.

This is a lie and not possible, no one can tell you it's 100% guaranteed, if they do so, they wanted to scam you, deceive you or attract you to their website for gambling or gambling prediction odds, betting in gambling involves taking risk and no bidy will take that risk on your behalf except they want to deceive you.

Quote from: NAPK1NS_RA3 on February 27, 2023, 04:51:52 AM

Assuming you had millions of dollars that you could put on the match, where would you place the bets? Bookies often limit players. How could one successfully place millions of dollars in bets without drawing up suspicions or having their money frozen? Just curious.

One has to be careful because how will they know that you have such amount of money at hand to bet with, they will also persuade you to bet the entire money into gambling because they said it's hundred percent sure, that's a pure way to express scam, only risk gambling with the amount you can afford to loose, your account can definitely be frozen if you're using a KYC casino, which means they can cease such huge amount or reported you to AML agencies.

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Quote from: NAPK1NS_RA3 on February 27, 2023, 04:51:52 AM

.....you were assured that it would 100% win, how much would you be willing to bet on it?

I'll have to take extra steps like a refund in case the match didn't go the way he assured me. I can be confident to bet high if he'll agree to returning the money and using an escrow. That's unlikely to happen but may as well go for it since it's only hypothetical hehe.

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How could one successfully place millions of dollars in bets without drawing up suspicions or having their money frozen? Just curious.

Not a chance this won't be investigated if you're new. It's a different story if you already have a long history of a highroller with a bookie and with no prior suspicious activity.

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Quote from: Frankolala on February 27, 2023, 10:23:37 AM

If you place your bet into many bookie, your winnings might be investigated because all the accounts won the same game at the same time,which can make it suspicious.

I will prefer to bet a small amount of money to avoid any suspects and the rest of the money for other purposes, instead of losing all to the casino because of greed. Someone with a million dollars want to win big with it,he might end up losing it all,if he is finally caught by the casino. Start up a business or set up your own casino.

Whos the authority that would investigate such?

If it really happens where I got a tip about the outcome, then I would be really big but I will still question from whom this tip comes and could I trust it. Because this seems to be too good to be true.

We constantly see guys like this who provide forecasts in this forum. I found some who we can actually rely on but he still has some matches that weren't right. I paid a price for believing it. The tip could just be the same and I will just bet say $10K assuming I have millions. Will probably test many times of his tip.

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Quote from: Ryker1 on February 27, 2023, 09:06:59 AM

If you were absolutely sure in certain that the outcome of a soccer match was a 100% win, then you could bet as much money as you wanted to. But it is worth noting that no outcome in sports is ever completely guaranteed, so it is important to be cautious when making bets.
Everything is on the TOS and before we use any sportsbooks, it is good if we read first the terms because everything was there stated including the limits on the sportsbook ^{[withdrawal, deposit, and of course the terms on placing bet]}. You would need to research the various bookmakers and find ones that accept large bets without raising suspicions --or another option is also worth considering spreading your bets across multiple bookmakers to avoid drawing attention, splitting the big amount on different sportsbooks.

But only use reputable sportsbooks. Some bookies won't pay your big winnings because of so many reasons.
And it is true that if you will bet millions of dollars, or even hundred thousand of dollars, it may really raise flags on the site.
They may further investigate your account, and for sure some would find some loopholes not to pay your winnings.
So for me, better stay in your regular range of bets on the bookie you usually use, but don't bet on a site first time with your big bets.
It is better to get your winnings without any trouble rather than winning millions of dollars but can't get it out from the bookie.

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If you place your bet into many bookie, your winnings might be investigated because all the accounts won the same game at the same time,which can make it suspicious.

I will prefer to bet a small amount of money to avoid any suspects and the rest of the money for other purposes, instead of losing all to the casino because of greed. Someone with a million dollars want to win big with it,he might end up losing it all,if he is finally caught by the casino. Start up a business or set up your own casino.

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Quote from: NAPK1NS_RA3 on February 27, 2023, 04:51:52 AM

If you were told the outcome of a soccer match, hours before the match was scheduled, and you were assured that it would 100% win, how much would you be willing to bet on it? Assuming it was a 100% can’t lose situation.

Assuming you had millions of dollars that you could put on the match, where would you place the bets? Bookies often limit players. How could one successfully place millions of dollars in bets without drawing up suspicions or having their money frozen? Just curious.

For me I will try it first because I don’t have any experience for this to bet a 1M dollars at one go. Also I will analyze the game myself to make me convince that the pick is really has a high chance of winning.

The credibility of the person that gives fixed match tip should be defined first and I will only follow if I knew the guy personally or we have a long history of trust to make me invest huge money on his call. Anyone can guarantee you about their call but the problem is if they are willing to refund your money once your bet loss.

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If you were absolutely sure in certain that the outcome of a soccer match was a 100% win, then you could bet as much money as you wanted to. But it is worth noting that no outcome in sports is ever completely guaranteed, so it is important to be cautious when making bets.
Everything is on the TOS and before we use any sportsbooks, it is good if we read first the terms because everything was there stated including the limits on the sportsbook ^{[withdrawal, deposit, and of course the terms on placing bet]}. You would need to research the various bookmakers and find ones that accept large bets without raising suspicions --or another option is also worth considering spreading your bets across multiple bookmakers to avoid drawing attention, splitting the big amount on different sportsbooks.

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Quote from: NAPK1NS_RA3 on February 27, 2023, 04:51:52 AM

If you were told the outcome of a soccer match, hours before the match was scheduled, and you were assured that it would 100% win, how much would you be willing to bet on it? Assuming it was a 100% can’t lose situation.

Assuming you had millions of dollars that you could put on the match, where would you place the bets? Bookies often limit players. How could one successfully place millions of dollars in bets without drawing up suspicions or having their money frozen? Just curious.

if someone told me about the result of a football game and it was given before the game even started, i would laugh.
the reason is that there are no definite results in gambling or betting, there are only predictions that have a 50% chance of winning 50% of losing. if it's a 100% sure win outcome for him, why doesn't he sell his house to gamble and make his own profit. sorry I'm too skeptical of other people's predictions.

If I had millions of dollars to spend on sports betting, I wouldn't do it. better i use $1000 to bet and make million dollar gradually and the rest i will use more important than bet.

and I will bet on Stake.com

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