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Topic: I can't find any information on Nick Szabo, is he is who he says he is? - page 2. (Read 12369 times)

legendary
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oh and by the way nick Szabo had an american education, and satoshi had a british education..

.. should anyone actually bother to do the research rather then create myths that they are linguistically the same.

legendary
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legendary
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The revolution will be digital
Dear all,

I've read recent articles pointing that linguistically that Nick Szabo is likely Satoshi who either singly created the original Bitcoin whitepaper or had some assistance.  Apparently, this is his website and this is his blog.  The email listed prominently is [email protected] in those places.  However, I cannot find Nick Szabo at George Washington University.  I found a couple of other Szabos.  I could not find any Szabo Econ Professor here, or elsewhere.

So this naturally leads me to a couple of questions.

1. What does Nick Szabo actually look like?  All the articles that reference him somehow lack a picture of him.  This is unusual because universities very often post public pictures of their professors.

2. How do we know that Szabo actually worked at George Washington University or was ever an Econ Professor there?  An email address is not absolute proof.

3. How do we know that Nick Szabo or Nicholas Szabo is his real name?  I have seen proof from his Wikipedia page that Nicholas was ever confirmed anywhere.

4. Where is Nick Szabo now?  He hasn't posted since November 2013 and this was before the first string of articles around December 2013 came out suggesting that he was Satoshi.

Any help would be appreciated.



Was Nick Szabo ever a part of this forum ?
newbie
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who says satoshi is nick. there are many correspodence between them. what about it?
legendary
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ok a history lesson

satoshi
hal finney
nick szabo

all frequented some cryptography and tech forums prior to january 2009 and yes thy all talked and mingled and came up with idea's. but it was the one entity known as satoshi that put all of these idea's together, formed the white paper, etc.

now to get closer to january 2009, satoshi ( a single entity) along with a few others all joined force to make bitcoin 0.1, yes hal finney szabo, even theymos helped out.

theymos made this very forum to allow the group to start cultivating idea's together. but it remains that satoshi is a single entity,

later others joined to help such as gavin andressen, luke jr and jeff garzik.. amongst many other names.. but yet again satoshi was one single entity.

to put it into a better analogy.

everyone thinks steve jobs made apple what it is.. but if it wasnt for steve wozniak, and a couple other friends tinkering around and helping out. apple wouldnt be in the position it is now,

.. but imagine steve jobs didnt make himself public, but instead stayed fully anonymous. then this 'mystery' would cause 500 topics to be made each trying to say that wozniak is jobs.

or that jobs is some elusive NSA agent or that jobs is some japanese mastermind.

either way, if you want to know about bitcoin, ask any of the bitcoin dev's about bitcoin. the identity of the single entity known as satoshi is not worth endless topics and speculation

donator
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Satoshi is from the future. In his timeline, he was very poor and bitcoin was invented in 2012 by someone else.

He sold everything he had and bought a one way ticket to come back in time to start bitcoin himself, so his future self would be a trillion-air and not need to travel back in time.
This could be reasonable. I guess there could be a completely logical reason to not time-travel to the most major events we've had in Earth's history (assuming they weren't already tampered with) - so even though we might discount time-travel theory just because we haven't noticed it, it's possible Bitcoin was the first event considered important enough to tamper with. Starry-eyed, I know. In a FTL future where Satoshi may've come from, events are likely much more significant to many more people (assuming the number of people on Earth over the past tens of thousands of years doesn't create any exponential function with regards to the number of humans colonizing in space in the future, which seems plausible). Fiat has absolutely no place in the FTL era. You go visit a moon on YX-0038 with a briefcase of USD or rubles and they might pay its fuel value... so maybe a micro-satoshi, or just a beer to cheer you up. Crypto can be sent far into space already -- there's really nothing preventing extremely long travel, though you'd probably want a particular individual planet to handle most of the actual transaction processing due to latency -- actually, I guess it'd make sense to have unique cryptos for each "sector," ironically bringing back one of the same issues Bitcoin was supposed to solve: geographical boundaries restricting value flow. I'd be surprised if there weren't already a paper or few on intergalactic Bitcoin, though.

More likely, though - Bitcoin was never invented in the "previous past" - at least, it wasn't open-source. If it was already invented and open-source, it would've been silly for Satoshi to not copy-paste the future past's code and to instead give us a kludgey, insecure client. Since he didn't copy-paste, he probably slapped together the code after a couple crash courses and tried to reverse-engineer what happened in the future, and in that case, Satoshi would not have needed all the input he took during the time he was developing. OTOH, it's also very possible the code of the future relied on so many not-currently-invented dependencies, it had to be re-coded from scratch. Satoshi may've been a coder from the future but didn't count on having to write Bitcoin in such a now-obscure, archaic language, though the original daemon being Windows-only would imply Microsoft will probably always dominate the OS market (or it was otherwise the only OS Satoshi could find a copy of in the future).
legendary
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This is the land of wolves now & you're not a wolf
Bitcoin creator is 100% Satoshi Nakamoto or we don't really know? Also how Satoshi Nakamoto and Nick Szabo are related? Do you think Nick Szabo could be the creator of bitcoin?

There is another possibility. Szabo wrote his essay about Bit Gold in 2005. What if Satoshi Nakamoto plagiarized parts of his essay and incorporated some of the ideas in his paper on Bitcoin in 2008?

I think the above is far more likely than Szabo being Nakamoto himself.
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https://youtu.be/PZm8TTLR2NU
This is a picture of Nick Szabo:



He looks like a turtle. So is there zero pictures of Szabo?
Bitcoin created by intelligent extraterrestrial turtles CONFIRMED.
legendary
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Satoshi is from the future. In his timeline, he was very poor and bitcoin was invented in 2012 by someone else.

He sold everything he had and bought a one way ticket to come back in time to start bitcoin himself, so his future self would be a trillion-air and not need to travel back in time.

Years later, someone else would decide to sell everything for a one way ticket to the past so (s)he could invent bitcoin, and the history would repeat again Smiley.
full member
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Satoshi is from the future. In his timeline, he was very poor and bitcoin was invented in 2012 by someone else.

He sold everything he had and bought a one way ticket to come back in time to start bitcoin himself, so his future self would be a trillion-air and not need to travel back in time.
newbie
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I thought this was strange- an obituary for Nick Szabo on a UK based funeral home site- same photo on that site as the one from his wikipedia page-they must have posted the wrong photo Shocked
http://bartonhallworth.co.uk/2013/04/nicholas-nick-szabo/
newbie
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Satoshi, whoever you are, thank you, you really worked hard for everyone. Otsukaresama

Maybe it would be better to spend less time trying to find satoshi, and simply promote his ideals.  

If you try to find satoshi, it will only give him troubles and waste his valuable time.

I feel that is something nobody here would like to do.

I agree, but someone made the argument that if the real satoshi comes forward, especially if he/she/they are spectacular in some way, the news would go nuts about it and tons of people would hear about Bitcoin. Imagine the media frenzy it would cause.
Like .. hey guys, I'm Satoshi!!!!


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/32/GeorgeClooneyHWoFJan12.jpg/220px-GeorgeClooneyHWoFJan12.jpg

The only thing they would have in common is their smugness, but Satoshi really does have a reason to be smug though maybe he's to meek and humble for that.


The will remember satoshi longer than this guy..lol
hero member
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Minimum Effort/Maximum effect
What if Nick Szabo is an Advanced A.I bot? Quietly promoting the ideals of Bitcoin, wouldn't that be awesome? A decentralized automated accounting system being maintained by autonomous A.I workers... crazyness. Smiley
newbie
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Where is he based? Anyone know?
hero member
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Satoshi, whoever you are, thank you, you really worked hard for everyone. Otsukaresama

Maybe it would be better to spend less time trying to find satoshi, and simply promote his ideals. 

If you try to find satoshi, it will only give him troubles and waste his valuable time.

I feel that is something nobody here would like to do.

I agree, but someone made the argument that if the real satoshi comes forward, especially if he/she/they are spectacular in some way, the news would go nuts about it and tons of people would hear about Bitcoin. Imagine the media frenzy it would cause.
Like .. hey guys, I'm Satoshi!!!!



The only thing they would have in common is their smugness, but Satoshi really does have a reason to be smug though maybe he's to meek and humble for that.
legendary
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Eadem mutata resurgo
Satoshi, whoever you are, thank you, you really worked hard for everyone. Otsukaresama

Maybe it would be better to spend less time trying to find satoshi, and simply promote his ideals. 

If you try to find satoshi, it will only give him troubles and waste his valuable time.

I feel that is something nobody here would like to do.

I agree, but someone made the argument that if the real satoshi comes forward, especially if he/she/they are spectacular in some way, the news would go nuts about it and tons of people would hear about Bitcoin. Imagine the media frenzy it would cause.
Like .. hey guys, I'm Satoshi!!!!

newbie
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Satoshi, whoever you are, thank you, you really worked hard for everyone. Otsukaresama

Maybe it would be better to spend less time trying to find satoshi, and simply promote his ideals. 

If you try to find satoshi, it will only give him troubles and waste his valuable time.

I feel that is something nobody here would like to do.

I agree, but someone made the argument that if the real satoshi comes forward, especially if he/she/they are spectacular in some way, the news would go nuts about it and tons of people would hear about Bitcoin. Imagine the media frenzy it would cause.
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Then again, if that mass people hears about Bitcoin, it will still be to difficult for a lot of them to find where and how to buy them. There has to be more easy to understand information.
I don't even want to know who Satoshi is at this moment.
full member
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Indie Developer
Satoshi, whoever you are, thank you, you really worked hard for everyone. Otsukaresama

Maybe it would be better to spend less time trying to find satoshi, and simply promote his ideals. 

If you try to find satoshi, it will only give him troubles and waste his valuable time.

I feel that is something nobody here would like to do.

I agree, but someone made the argument that if the real satoshi comes forward, especially if he/she/they are spectacular in some way, the news would go nuts about it and tons of people would hear about Bitcoin. Imagine the media frenzy it would cause.
newbie
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Satoshi, whoever you are, thank you, you really worked hard for everyone. Otsukaresama

Maybe it would be better to spend less time trying to find satoshi, and simply promote his ideals. 

If you try to find satoshi, it will only give him troubles and waste his valuable time.

I feel that is something nobody here would like to do.
full member
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Indie Developer
And when it is that low, nobody will buy.

I would assume people have a bigger incentive to buy if the price is relatively low. I would definitely buy a few thousand BTC at $0.01.
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