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Quote from: Ararbermas on August 21, 2019, 08:25:58 PM

Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam? Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC. but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require kyc it smell fishy as well? What did happen to this world? How to trust again on this kind of sites?

If that's a new site then you something to worry about, but if it's an old gambling site and there's no report about them, then it's ok to do that, these gambling sites, sometimes offer a deposit bonus for new members, they do this to attract more people to deposit, I remember one gambling site giving 50% deposit bonus if you are going to deposit a certain amount.

We judge the gambling sites based on their reputation, not because they are old or new because in the growing crypto gambling industry, it's expected that there are new gambling sites that will be created and that will improve the competition in the market.

Most of the sites offers deposit bonus, but they are scam, the bonus is part of their marketing but if you will read carefully on the rules, you will realize that although the bonus is so attractive, it's not easy won by a gambler since there's a lot of condition to fulfill.

It's true that most deposit bonuses aren't that good. Mostly you have to wager that much that's almost impossible to unlock it.

Agree it’s hard to get your amount back once you lose it better before starting just choose the right one and after that you could feel safe about the site that you have chosen for gambling. Most of time because of fake website people lose hope and they become worried at fallen market value or getting stuck their money use this forum to get fair site.

Bonuses are just part of their marketing and its normal for them to put up high wager requirement for most gamblers would able to fail to reach it up and make some withdrawal.
Thats why i dont really care too much with bonuses and other perks because it would always be tied up with some casual wagering requirement.We know that only a few lucky ones will able to succeed to get up profits with those perks.

Trust on gambling sites isnt really that easy specially when you are trying to use a new site but i you dont like to hassle up your mind then you can simply stick out to those old and reputable ones.

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Quote from: Viscore on September 06, 2019, 05:05:01 AM

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Quote from: Ararbermas on August 21, 2019, 08:25:58 PM

Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam? Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC. but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require kyc it smell fishy as well? What did happen to this world? How to trust again on this kind of sites?

If that's a new site then you something to worry about, but if it's an old gambling site and there's no report about them, then it's ok to do that, these gambling sites, sometimes offer a deposit bonus for new members, they do this to attract more people to deposit, I remember one gambling site giving 50% deposit bonus if you are going to deposit a certain amount.

We judge the gambling sites based on their reputation, not because they are old or new because in the growing crypto gambling industry, it's expected that there are new gambling sites that will be created and that will improve the competition in the market.

Most of the sites offers deposit bonus, but they are scam, the bonus is part of their marketing but if you will read carefully on the rules, you will realize that although the bonus is so attractive, it's not easy won by a gambler since there's a lot of condition to fulfill.

It's true that most deposit bonuses aren't that good. Mostly you have to wager that much that's almost impossible to unlock it.

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Quote from: SirLancelot on September 02, 2019, 04:03:42 AM

I seriously commend this site on the job of controlling fraudulent sites, I am sure a lot of people would have been duped by now if not for the constant exposure of the activities of scam sites on this page but it still hasn’t stopped them from duping players but those who fall into this especially this period of time are players that do not pay attention to the instructions on the forum.

There is a constant advice of players not playing games in new sites and mainly unfamiliar sites but it baffles me why some people would still prefer to play here. The reasons are not legit enough to me, why would you risk your money, isn’t it safer to play on well-known sites?

Well, for me I don’t trust any sites, even the old sites cannot be trusted totally. It is only more preferable to new sites.

Thank you for this beautiful post but I must let you know that despite all the efforts that have been put together by the site and honorable members of this forum, there are still people falling into scam activities on a daily bases, we definitely won’t blame this on the gambling sites anymore because players themselves aren’t helping matters, most of them are so greedy that even when they see fire and because there is money inside, they wouldn’t mind going into it to risk bringing out the money.

Gamblers that get duped are aware that playing on such sites is on 50/50 chance and they are not scared of loosing their money.

Yeah allot of sites are scamming and they are using gaming fake sites so better make research before trusting any new site at the same time you should keep your eyes open to start gaming with new site ao little care can give you better reward also make research on Google about the website you are using for gambling.

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Quote from: robelneo on September 06, 2019, 04:35:37 AM

Quote from: Ararbermas on August 21, 2019, 08:25:58 PM

Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam? Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC. but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require kyc it smell fishy as well? What did happen to this world? How to trust again on this kind of sites?

If that's a new site then you something to worry about, but if it's an old gambling site and there's no report about them, then it's ok to do that, these gambling sites, sometimes offer a deposit bonus for new members, they do this to attract more people to deposit, I remember one gambling site giving 50% deposit bonus if you are going to deposit a certain amount.

We judge the gambling sites based on their reputation, not because they are old or new because in the growing crypto gambling industry, it's expected that there are new gambling sites that will be created and that will improve the competition in the market.

Most of the sites offers deposit bonus, but they are scam, the bonus is part of their marketing but if you will read carefully on the rules, you will realize that although the bonus is so attractive, it's not easy won by a gambler since there's a lot of condition to fulfill.

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Quote from: robelneo on September 06, 2019, 04:35:37 AM

Quote from: Ararbermas on August 21, 2019, 08:25:58 PM

Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam? Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC. but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require kyc it smell fishy as well? What did happen to this world? How to trust again on this kind of sites?

If that's a new site then you something to worry about, but if it's an old gambling site and there's no report about them, then it's ok to do that, these gambling sites, sometimes offer a deposit bonus for new members, they do this to attract more people to deposit, I remember one gambling site giving 50% deposit bonus if you are going to deposit a certain amount.

They make such promotions to attract new gamblers for a new site they offer more than 50-200% for the first deposit bonus. But they will not be easy to get the bonus because they have to complete the wagering requirements.

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Quote from: Ararbermas on August 21, 2019, 08:25:58 PM

Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam? Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC. but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require kyc it smell fishy as well? What did happen to this world? How to trust again on this kind of sites?

If that's a new site then you something to worry about, but if it's an old gambling site and there's no report about them, then it's ok to do that, these gambling sites, sometimes offer a deposit bonus for new members, they do this to attract more people to deposit, I remember one gambling site giving 50% deposit bonus if you are going to deposit a certain amount.

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Quote from: sana54210 on August 27, 2019, 08:11:19 AM

I sometimes find it very difficult to understand what gamblers really want. A site that gives freebies and lots of Bonuses are feared to be scam sites and some that do not are being complained of. This shouldn’t even be a problem as we all know there will always be scam sites and in short it didn’t start from today.

I don’t care the strategies scam sites are using buy one thing I know for sure is that I can never be scammed, not on any new or existing gambling sites. In short I can’t even imagine how a gambler is being scammed, like what made him visit the site in the first place. What happened to playing on very familiar and well know sites. Why would you consider a site that is new hand has the tendency to run away with your money.

I knew from your first sentence that you have never been scammed, if you ever fell for this guys, you will understand better that those who are victims weren’t foolish. It just happened. Scam doesn’t not only occur on new sites, I have seen players been duped on some familiar site and the bad thing about this type is that people find it hard to believe because of the trust they have for this sites.

Anyway you are right, to gamble on a known site is still better, it’s still safer than a site you do not know anyone who has tried playing on the site or have reviews from players to know what their experience with the site was.

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KYC is good as it I safe and it is easy way to trust any site about the security we will be happy that we have KYC of the opponent so no one will be able to give us deceive. There are so many bad people who only take advantage of the other people so before getting or investing in gambling gain knowledge about it.

If there is any gambling site which doesn't have to complete KYC, then I will use them to playing gambling because I don't want to reveal my identity or send the document to them. I don't think that it is necessary to send that document because I don't have any reason to make money from gambling and I think we don't have to do KYC. We need to be careful if we want to send the private document to any third party because there is no guarantee to be safe on the internet.

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Quote from: TalkStar on September 04, 2019, 01:52:12 PM

Not only gambling sites are requiring KYC for their users but also well-known crypto exchanges are doing the same. As an example you can withdraw 100 BTC perday on bittrex if you successfully complete your KYC on their system. I think by requiring KYC they are trying to provide best services to their verified traders account where unverified accounts can withdraw only 1 BTC perday. Same going on for those gambling sites who are taking extra security for their users but its true that in some cases couple of websites are not trusted enough to keep users private information securely.

Just a little note, if withdrawal limit for unverified accounts on bittrex is 0 btc. If you have an old account on there, you will be get 0.4 btc limit as withdrawal amount.

I don't think gambling site must do KYC as the requirement on their site, gambling site is a place when you are having fun, it's much different with exchange sites which most of people save their money on there.
I believe no one would savw their money in gambling site

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Quote from: Oyarebu on September 04, 2019, 01:49:56 PM

Although its unfortunate for those who still get scam as I was scammed onces when I newly joined the journey. I have learnt to avoid bogus bonuses from any platform that tend to offer such to it gamblers as many have lead to scammed after that. What had kept me till now is my ability to check the sites reputation alongside positive feedbacks from gamblers before looking at their existence of the platform because new platforms are more likely to scam in my opinion.

There possibility of what you said to happens is very minimal so, I wouldn't be in support of this that, new gambling platforms have more Chance's of getten user scam. I have been promoting many new gambling platforms and among all, I have never seen who have comeforth on this platform to raise scam accusation against any and they are all new to the industry.

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KYC is good as it I safe and it is easy way to trust any site about the security we will be happy that we have KYC of the opponent so no one will be able to give us deceive. There are so many bad people who only take advantage of the other people so before getting or investing in gambling gain knowledge about it.

KYC is not the best way to know a reputable site. If you are interested in knowing a very good site, then you should look out for its years of existence and what people are saying about the site. There are a lot of reputable sites not demanding for KYC and if at all, KYC is what would make us know the true site, then be sure many people would be out of gambling soon because we cannot completely depend on a gambling site with our personal information. What happens when the site system crashes? What if the site gets hacked and the information becomes exposed to third parties? That would definitely be a bad game right?

I am a casino gambler and in online crypto gambling, we are against exposing our personal details and the advantage we have over other forms of gambling is anonymity, so fuck KYC and all it represents.

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Quote from: SirLancelot on September 02, 2019, 04:03:42 AM

I seriously commend this site on the job of controlling fraudulent sites, I am sure a lot of people would have been duped by now if not for the constant exposure of the activities of scam sites on this page but it still hasn’t stopped them from duping players but those who fall into this especially this period of time are players that do not pay attention to the instructions on the forum.

There is a constant advice of players not playing games in new sites and mainly unfamiliar sites but it baffles me why some people would still prefer to play here. The reasons are not legit enough to me, why would you risk your money, isn’t it safer to play on well-known sites?

Well, for me I don’t trust any sites, even the old sites cannot be trusted totally. It is only more preferable to new sites.

Thank you for this beautiful post but I must let you know that despite all the efforts that have been put together by the site and honorable members of this forum, there are still people falling into scam activities on a daily bases, we definitely won’t blame this on the gambling sites anymore because players themselves aren’t helping matters, most of them are so greedy that even when they see fire and because there is money inside, they wouldn’t mind going into it to risk bringing out the money.

Gamblers that get duped are aware that playing on such sites is on 50/50 chance and they are not scared of loosing their money.

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Quote from: EdenHazard on September 02, 2019, 08:23:44 AM

There are two condition why people losing trust on a gambling site :

1. They are disappointed

Disappointed cause you need to do KYC (huge amount withdrawal/huge winning usually several sites require it) , disappointed cause you are feeling blue ... having too much money lost and start blaming the site is unfair whilst it's just another bad day another bad luck for you.

Not only gambling sites are requiring KYC for their users but also well-known crypto exchanges are doing the same. As an example you can withdraw 100 BTC perday on bittrex if you successfully complete your KYC on their system. I think by requiring KYC they are trying to provide best services to their verified traders account where unverified accounts can withdraw only 1 BTC perday. Same going on for those gambling sites who are taking extra security for their users but its true that in some cases couple of websites are not trusted enough to keep users private information securely.

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Although its unfortunate for those who still get scam as I was scammed onces when I newly joined the journey. I have learnt to avoid bogus bonuses from any platform that tend to offer such to it gamblers as many have lead to scammed after that. What had kept me till now is my ability to check the sites reputation alongside positive feedbacks from gamblers before looking at their existence of the platform because new platforms are more likely to scam in my opinion.

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Quote from: Chrystora123 on August 30, 2019, 04:14:27 AM

all users may have the same thoughts as you, personally I still can't trust 100% of all gambling sites... but I think like this, "if they cheat users then they are very stupid".. why so stupid?? because the turnover of money in gambling is very large, they are very stupid if cheating me as small user (small fish) because they will lose another user (big fish).

now we have been very helped because this forum is very helpful in dealing with fraudsters, just include proof of fraud in the thread "scam accusations" then the red flag will be sticky there.. good luck for all of us Wink

That is only true for big and established casinos, they are making so much money that for them is simply not worthy to try to scam their users since in such a business their reputation is everything, but when it comes to a small casino they may decide to give an appearance that they are a legitimate business until a whale is confident enough to deposit money at their casino and when that happens they may decide to exit scam their users, create another casino and repeat this process again.

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Quote from: lixer on August 28, 2019, 03:29:02 AM

I have seen a lot of gamblers that immediately register and start gambling on new sites without even going through the terms like you do and this is foolishness displayed to me. It’s possible that some scam sites are actually not scam as tagged but the ignorance level of players made their money blow into the air.

I am of the opinion that all gamblers should learn to read before betting, read information and read more on detecting the tricks of scam sites. There are still genuine sites out here and they are numerous, definitely more than the scam sites, so I see no reason why gamblers should still fall victim of gambling sites. I might be talking out of ignorance since I have not been scammed, but I believe It’s possible to prevent it.

You have a great point there and it kind of takes me back to the story I was read somewhere not quiet long, can’t remember if it was on this forum but I would share, the player didn’t pay attention to the TOC and it was clearly written that there would be a place to fill KYC at withdrawal for a specific amount of money, he didn’t read and he played and won something really big, unfortunately the guy was below gambling age and at that moment, there was a need to fill KYC to claim the money.

I cannot clearly remember how it was later sorted out because I didn’t follow much on the post till the end but like you mentioned correctly, this is real ignorance of the highest order.

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Yes, if we don't have any faith in the casino website then it is not a good idea to submit our documents. Now, most of the websites are accepted cryptocurrency as a betting scheme which it might be easy for the gambler to spend their currency in gambling. So before gambling, you need to research yourself from the experienced persons reviews about the casino website.

First of all, why would you have any faith with something that is unfamiliar with it, especially when it involves something as sensitive to information as our personal info? What is the scheme you are talking about? Maybe you are talking about using it as a currency to gamble on. It's a good transition from being in a Fiat Currency for gambling to cryptocurrencies. It was made easy. There are a lot of possible people you could talk to, probably the chat on the website itself.

KYC is good as it I safe and it is easy way to trust any site about the security we will be happy that we have KYC of the opponent so no one will be able to give us deceive. There are so many bad people who only take advantage of the other people so before getting or investing in gambling gain knowledge about it.

Agree with you this is really good to share your KYC it makes the gambling site safer and more people will be agree to trust. Just check the old history of that gambling site and trust only when you become satisfied about the security of the investors. Better have faith in gambling people and wait for them.

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Quote from: Chrystora123 on August 30, 2019, 04:14:27 AM

all users may have the same thoughts as you, personally I still can't trust 100% of all gambling sites... but I think like this, "if they cheat users then they are very stupid".. why so stupid?? because the turnover of money in gambling is very large, they are very stupid if cheating me as small user (small fish) because they will lose another user (big fish).

now we have been very helped because this forum is very helpful in dealing with fraudsters, just include proof of fraud in the thread "scam accusations" then the red flag will be sticky there.. good luck for all of us Wink

I seriously commend this site on the job of controlling fraudulent sites, I am sure a lot of people would have been duped by now if not for the constant exposure of the activities of scam sites on this page but it still hasn’t stopped them from duping players but those who fall into this especially this period of time are players that do not pay attention to the instructions on the forum.

There is a constant advice of players not playing games in new sites and mainly unfamiliar sites but it baffles me why some people would still prefer to play here. The reasons are not legit enough to me, why would you risk your money, isn’t it safer to play on well-known sites?

Well, for me I don’t trust any sites, even the old sites cannot be trusted totally. It is only more preferable to new sites.

There are two condition why people losing trust on a gambling site :

1. They are disappointed

Disappointed cause you need to do KYC (huge amount withdrawal/huge winning usually several sites require it) , disappointed cause you are feeling blue ... having too much money lost and start blaming the site is unfair whilst it's just another bad day another bad luck for you.

2. The site have 0 reputation

Despite it's a new site, people tend to fall to a non sense promo ... they are insist to play there to get their chance and forgot that the site itself is newly launched and possibly run a 100% scam service.

I would simply choose the one with high reputation as simply as like that , the kyc thing required only onncertain conditions, I still have no problem with a well known gambling sites around here ... they never ask me to do kyc though.

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Quote from: Chrystora123 on August 30, 2019, 04:14:27 AM

all users may have the same thoughts as you, personally I still can't trust 100% of all gambling sites... but I think like this, "if they cheat users then they are very stupid".. why so stupid?? because the turnover of money in gambling is very large, they are very stupid if cheating me as small user (small fish) because they will lose another user (big fish).

now we have been very helped because this forum is very helpful in dealing with fraudsters, just include proof of fraud in the thread "scam accusations" then the red flag will be sticky there.. good luck for all of us Wink

I seriously commend this site on the job of controlling fraudulent sites, I am sure a lot of people would have been duped by now if not for the constant exposure of the activities of scam sites on this page but it still hasn’t stopped them from duping players but those who fall into this especially this period of time are players that do not pay attention to the instructions on the forum.

There is a constant advice of players not playing games in new sites and mainly unfamiliar sites but it baffles me why some people would still prefer to play here. The reasons are not legit enough to me, why would you risk your money, isn’t it safer to play on well-known sites?

Well, for me I don’t trust any sites, even the old sites cannot be trusted totally. It is only more preferable to new sites.

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Quote from: iamsheikhadil on August 22, 2019, 01:06:51 AM

It's a reality that times have changed and you can't trust much but I can give you a suggestion, scam or not, when it comes to gambling, in the long run, you always lose.

I disagree. Majority will always lose in the long run against the house, but the minority do win in the long term and there are many examples out there to demonstrate that which is why many continue to play to join their ranks.

I also do not agree with that. In gambling, of course there are those who win and those who lose. All online and physical gambling players must have often experienced defeat or victory. If you often play gambling, of course you already understand. That is natural in the game.

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