I don't know how to trust a gambling site nowadays! - page 3.

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Quote from: Ararbermas on August 21, 2019, 09:25:58 PM

Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam? Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC. but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require kyc it smell fishy as well? What did happen to this world? How to trust again on this kind of sites?

You mean you don't know if new gambling sites are worth your trust, you can ask people who are already playing there for a review if you have second thought do not deposit big amount of money, some mew sites are offering deposit bonus to encourage, but there are similar gambling sites that use this to scam people.

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Quote from: panjul07 on September 01, 2019, 11:35:12 AM

Quote from: Best Dreams on August 29, 2019, 01:03:21 AM

Quote from: lixer on August 28, 2019, 04:29:02 AM

Quote from: dothebeats on August 27, 2019, 09:33:27 AM

Personally if a gambling site is offering a deposit bonus, I first check what kind of terms they offer for that and if it has a high requirement for me to be able to attain and withdraw, I don't use it and I just let things be. Usually, only newly-erected sites are the ones offering such bonuses to attain a following from a lot of people early on in the game, and those well-established ones have some kind of bonuses every now and then but not as lucrative and crazy as to what these new sites offer.

I have seen a lot of gamblers that immediately register and start gambling on new sites without even going through the terms like you do and this is foolishness displayed to me. It’s possible that some scam sites are actually not scam as tagged but the ignorance level of players made their money blow into the air.

I am of the opinion that all gamblers should learn to read before betting, read information and read more on detecting the tricks of scam sites. There are still genuine sites out here and they are numerous, definitely more than the scam sites, so I see no reason why gamblers should still fall victim of gambling sites. I might be talking out of ignorance since I have not been scammed, but I believe It’s possible to prevent it.

You are right we should trust old sites more than new one because in New casino most are just scammers but in old one you will see allot of trust able gamblers who are there since long so before trusting make so much research. Having trust worthy site is not easy that’s why be ready to face everything in gambling about your gaming site

Don't underestimate new casinos like this, all old sites came from new site as well so don't forget the starting history. Surely older trusted site is a better place to stay but we should not call most new sites are scammers. We should give a chance for new sites to prove that they are reliable place to spend our money. Basically it is not hard to see whether a new site is good or not, worth to try or not, there will be always suspicious thing when a new site tries to scam you.

Mindset like this are those people who are being commonly scammed by new services either a gambling site or any other investment site which they do already make first and last impressions towards new sites.Yes it isn't really that right to have that mindset yet old sites weve known do really start also from scratch.

This do only matter on how those new sites would prove out theirselves that they are worthy to trust on.You can really easily spot out which one is serious on its early phase.

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Quote from: Best Dreams on August 29, 2019, 01:03:21 AM

Quote from: lixer on August 28, 2019, 04:29:02 AM

Quote from: dothebeats on August 27, 2019, 09:33:27 AM

Personally if a gambling site is offering a deposit bonus, I first check what kind of terms they offer for that and if it has a high requirement for me to be able to attain and withdraw, I don't use it and I just let things be. Usually, only newly-erected sites are the ones offering such bonuses to attain a following from a lot of people early on in the game, and those well-established ones have some kind of bonuses every now and then but not as lucrative and crazy as to what these new sites offer.

I have seen a lot of gamblers that immediately register and start gambling on new sites without even going through the terms like you do and this is foolishness displayed to me. It’s possible that some scam sites are actually not scam as tagged but the ignorance level of players made their money blow into the air.

I am of the opinion that all gamblers should learn to read before betting, read information and read more on detecting the tricks of scam sites. There are still genuine sites out here and they are numerous, definitely more than the scam sites, so I see no reason why gamblers should still fall victim of gambling sites. I might be talking out of ignorance since I have not been scammed, but I believe It’s possible to prevent it.

You are right we should trust old sites more than new one because in New casino most are just scammers but in old one you will see allot of trust able gamblers who are there since long so before trusting make so much research. Having trust worthy site is not easy that’s why be ready to face everything in gambling about your gaming site

Don't underestimate new casinos like this, all old sites came from new site as well so don't forget the starting history. Surely older trusted site is a better place to stay but we should not call most new sites are scammers. We should give a chance for new sites to prove that they are reliable place to spend our money. Basically it is not hard to see whether a new site is good or not, worth to try or not, there will be always suspicious thing when a new site tries to scam you.

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Quote from: TIDOVEE on August 28, 2019, 08:39:45 PM

Quote from: Ararbermas on August 21, 2019, 09:25:58 PM

Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam? Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC. but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require kyc it smell fishy as well? What did happen to this world? How to trust again on this kind of sites?

well, it may appear like scam,but it is like an advertisement strategy, to entice you. it shouldn't be new to any business that has competitors. it is to make you believe they have something worthwhile to deliver. although, some may be scam.you only need to be careful.
and the matter of the KYC.most of them introduce KYC for authentication of clients and it should be to the benefit of the client as it would reduce scam.those who does not introduce KYC also have their way of protecting their clients.it shouldn't be an issue.

Not all gambling sites that offer deposit bonuses will become a scam. unless they have a crazy promotion, Like have a very large deposit bonus. it could be that they became a scam before you could withdraw. and not all gambling sites use KYC. there are many old gambling sites and trusted that do not implement it, and I played on the site

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Quote from: Best Dreams on August 29, 2019, 01:03:21 AM

Quote from: lixer on August 28, 2019, 04:29:02 AM

I have seen a lot of gamblers that immediately register and start gambling on new sites without even going through the terms like you do and this is foolishness displayed to me. It’s possible that some scam sites are actually not scam as tagged but the ignorance level of players made their money blow into the air.

I am of the opinion that all gamblers should learn to read before betting, read information and read more on detecting the tricks of scam sites. There are still genuine sites out here and they are numerous, definitely more than the scam sites, so I see no reason why gamblers should still fall victim of gambling sites. I might be talking out of ignorance since I have not been scammed, but I believe It’s possible to prevent it.

You are right we should trust old sites more than new one because in New casino most are just scammers but in old one you will see allot of trust able gamblers who are there since long so before trusting make so much research. Having trust worthy site is not easy that’s why be ready to face everything in gambling about your gaming site

I think all this reasons put together is why I have chosen to stick with the site is started with longtime ago, even though I now find this site very boring because of the outdated games but I just feel it’s better to be on a safer side. Gamblers are more attracted to new site because of the kind of games they to offer. New sites keep on upgrading and this is something old site do not do maybe because they feel, they already have a good number of clients base.

I genuinely don’t blame gamblers that prefer new sites to long existing sites, aside bonuses, they want something convenient and conducive for gambling.

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Quote from: Astargath on August 27, 2019, 08:24:54 PM

Normal casinos already have your information through your credit card and they usually ask about personal info beforehand. Legally, casinos have to ask for KYC compliance. It's not a matter about breaking rules or not, they need to know if the money you are using for gambling is legal.

If that is the case, we can move to the crypto gambling site because we have so many recommended gambling websites which are no need to complete KYC. Many gamblers want to play gambling without doing KYC because they want to enjoy the game without sending their document to the websites. Besides that, they don't think that it is necessary to send the document because they are playing gambling for fun only. But for gamblers who want to make money from gambling, then I don't think they will fine to completing the KYC because many of them want to hide their identity.

I honestly do not see any reason for KYC argument on this forum, I have tried visiting some of this sites that are requesting for KYC and I could not find anything that makes them different from other sites not requesting for KYC, do what’s the big deal? If you don’t like to play on a site because of its KYC demand then quietly leave, there are many fishes in the water.

Absolutely what I’m standing also that there are so many sites that offers no KYC but Leif and trusted already for years now so why need to bother your self playing in the opposite site

But th problem sometimes are other sites that misleads players on who’s not indicating a KYC obligatory until you hit a big win.there are already issues in past abouthis and I don’t know if this was settled already

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I could recommend some very good and well know sites with great activities not requesting for KYC, as a matter of fact, For me, I don’t even trust sites that ask for KYC, it looks to me like it’s scam. I don’t know how they would expect me to fill my personal vital details on a gambling site.

Yups don’t wanna play also to present all my details as privacy is what we need here in crypto,but wmaybe better if you right down the sites who has no KYC program for others to use as reference

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Quote from: Tungsten-1 on August 30, 2019, 04:08:38 PM

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Quote from: spadormie on August 27, 2019, 03:00:06 PM

I know for a fact that KYC is done in some gambling sites even those sites are trustworthy when you won a jackpot prize or a big prize. If you do win that you'll do a KYC and I think they will hold on to your prize for days if I can remember it right that's the thing they're doing.

As a gambler, I always check the feedbacks of every gambling platforms before I gamble on the platforms because, many of my.winnings have been stuck in some known gambling platforms without missing world. KYC shouldn't be a yardstick for any gambler to trust a gambling website, they can disappoint you even with the KYC. Before you play in any gambling platforms ensure to research into the platforms before play.

This is a great way to have an insight into what kind of site have you clicked on. Reviews are composed of both good and bad and you can clearly have glimpse into how your journey is going to be in the site. Like we had the trust breach in ICO in 2018, you should not really trust the sites too. There are famous site on the internet and have been very professional so better stick to the top one.

Trust issue comes you know about it so better avoid all bad environment or gambling fake gambling site will effect your profit. Check the history and involve only fair sites. Before adopting and accepting their policies make good Google research after that ask the users about reliability and securitized assurance.

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Quote from: Oyarebu on August 28, 2019, 02:43:57 PM

Quote from: spadormie on August 27, 2019, 03:00:06 PM

I know for a fact that KYC is done in some gambling sites even those sites are trustworthy when you won a jackpot prize or a big prize. If you do win that you'll do a KYC and I think they will hold on to your prize for days if I can remember it right that's the thing they're doing.

As a gambler, I always check the feedbacks of every gambling platforms before I gamble on the platforms because, many of my.winnings have been stuck in some known gambling platforms without missing world. KYC shouldn't be a yardstick for any gambler to trust a gambling website, they can disappoint you even with the KYC. Before you play in any gambling platforms ensure to research into the platforms before play.

This is a great way to have an insight into what kind of site have you clicked on. Reviews are composed of both good and bad and you can clearly have glimpse into how your journey is going to be in the site. Like we had the trust breach in ICO in 2018, you should not really trust the sites too. There are famous site on the internet and have been very professional so better stick to the top one.

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Quote from: Chrystora123 on August 30, 2019, 05:14:27 AM

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now we have been very helped because this forum is very helpful in dealing with fraudsters, just include proof of fraud in the thread "scam accusations" then the red flag will be sticky there.. good luck for all of us Wink

Well, in choosing a good gambling site I will prefer to choose that having reputation here in the forum and run their gambling business for almost a year. Correct, nowadays there are a lot of gambling platforms emerging here in the forum just like mushrooms but so far, they had the same promising statement which needs proof. If you play on newly launched gambling platform, just deposit a small amount and don't leave on gambling site wallet.

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Quote from: maydna on August 27, 2019, 10:27:47 PM

Quote from: Astargath on August 27, 2019, 08:24:54 PM

Normal casinos already have your information through your credit card and they usually ask about personal info beforehand. Legally, casinos have to ask for KYC compliance. It's not a matter about breaking rules or not, they need to know if the money you are using for gambling is legal.

If that is the case, we can move to the crypto gambling site because we have so many recommended gambling websites which are no need to complete KYC. Many gamblers want to play gambling without doing KYC because they want to enjoy the game without sending their document to the websites. Besides that, they don't think that it is necessary to send the document because they are playing gambling for fun only. But for gamblers who want to make money from gambling, then I don't think they will fine to completing the KYC because many of them want to hide their identity.

I honestly do not see any reason for KYC argument on this forum, I have tried visiting some of this sites that are requesting for KYC and I could not find anything that makes them different from other sites not requesting for KYC, do what’s the big deal? If you don’t like to play on a site because of its KYC demand then quietly leave, there are many fishes in the water.

I could recommend some very good and well know sites with great activities not requesting for KYC, as a matter of fact, For me, I don’t even trust sites that ask for KYC, it looks to me like it’s scam. I don’t know how they would expect me to fill my personal vital details on a gambling site.

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all users may have the same thoughts as you, personally I still can't trust 100% of all gambling sites... but I think like this, "if they cheat users then they are very stupid".. why so stupid?? because the turnover of money in gambling is very large, they are very stupid if cheating me as small user (small fish) because they will lose another user (big fish).

now we have been very helped because this forum is very helpful in dealing with fraudsters, just include proof of fraud in the thread "scam accusations" then the red flag will be sticky there.. good luck for all of us Wink

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Quote from: carter34 on August 30, 2019, 03:31:50 AM

Quote from: spadormie on August 27, 2019, 03:00:06 PM

I know for a fact that KYC is done in some gambling sites even those sites are trustworthy when you won a jackpot prize or a big prize. If you do win that you'll do a KYC and I think they will hold on to your prize for days if I can remember it right that's the thing they're doing.

This is not appropriate. I wouldn't play on a site that won't require a KYC when I win little money and when I'm lucky to win big, then they will require that I do a KYC. No, this shows no trust and being crafty. So if I'm not able to get my KYC done to their difficult standard, that is I forfeit my huge winning.

Yeah, and there have been several occasions when big time winners get mugged in their homes in the past. The good thing with crypto gambling is that you remain anonymous. I don't see why gambling sites would need your personal information. Probably for security? But you risk more by providing your information that can one day be leaked or accessed by unwanted people. Especially if you own quite a big amount in your account.

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Quote from: crwth on August 28, 2019, 09:15:38 PM

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Yes, if we don't have any faith in the casino website then it is not a good idea to submit our documents. Now, most of the websites are accepted cryptocurrency as a betting scheme which it might be easy for the gambler to spend their currency in gambling. So before gambling, you need to research yourself from the experienced persons reviews about the casino website.

First of all, why would you have any faith with something that is unfamiliar with it, especially when it involves something as sensitive to information as our personal info? What is the scheme you are talking about? Maybe you are talking about using it as a currency to gamble on. It's a good transition from being in a Fiat Currency for gambling to cryptocurrencies. It was made easy. There are a lot of possible people you could talk to, probably the chat on the website itself.

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Quote from: spadormie on August 27, 2019, 03:00:06 PM

I know for a fact that KYC is done in some gambling sites even those sites are trustworthy when you won a jackpot prize or a big prize. If you do win that you'll do a KYC and I think they will hold on to your prize for days if I can remember it right that's the thing they're doing.

This is not appropriate. I wouldn't play on a site that won't require a KYC when I win little money and when I'm lucky to win big, then they will require that I do a KYC. No, this shows no trust and being crafty. So if I'm not able to get my KYC done to their difficult standard, that is I forfeit my huge winning.

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Quote from: Best Dreams on August 29, 2019, 01:03:21 AM

Quote from: lixer on August 28, 2019, 04:29:02 AM

Quote from: dothebeats on August 27, 2019, 09:33:27 AM

Personally if a gambling site is offering a deposit bonus, I first check what kind of terms they offer for that and if it has a high requirement for me to be able to attain and withdraw, I don't use it and I just let things be. Usually, only newly-erected sites are the ones offering such bonuses to attain a following from a lot of people early on in the game, and those well-established ones have some kind of bonuses every now and then but not as lucrative and crazy as to what these new sites offer.

I have seen a lot of gamblers that immediately register and start gambling on new sites without even going through the terms like you do and this is foolishness displayed to me. It’s possible that some scam sites are actually not scam as tagged but the ignorance level of players made their money blow into the air.

I am of the opinion that all gamblers should learn to read before betting, read information and read more on detecting the tricks of scam sites. There are still genuine sites out here and they are numerous, definitely more than the scam sites, so I see no reason why gamblers should still fall victim of gambling sites. I might be talking out of ignorance since I have not been scammed, but I believe It’s possible to prevent it.

You are right we should trust old sites more than new one because in New casino most are just scammers but in old one you will see allot of trust able gamblers who are there since long so before trusting make so much research. Having trust worthy site is not easy that’s why be ready to face everything in gambling about your gaming site

That's not true, the new gambling sites also have certain quality but the service efficiency is too poor, sometimes they are late in the payment process, a lot of complaints, however, they are not scammers, old gambling sites are probably better in this regard but obviously, the credibility of a gambling site is always not high. Even the old gambling sites, they are only reliable in terms of payment and game quality, the fairness is very low, we will only lose when facing them.

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Quote from: crwth on August 28, 2019, 09:15:38 PM

Quote from: TIDOVEE on August 28, 2019, 08:39:45 PM

well, it may appear like scam,but it is like an advertisement strategy, to entice you. it shouldn't be new to any business that has competitors. it is to make you believe they have something worthwhile to deliver. although, some may be scam.you only need to be careful.

That's just the thing, you need to know the website or the casino you are going into. There are a lot of online casinos that use cryptocurrencies as a currency and they have been around for a long time, so when you go with those sites, then there would be no problem regarding that.

Quote from: TIDOVEE on August 28, 2019, 08:39:45 PM

and the matter of the KYC.most of them introduce KYC for authentication of clients and it should be to the benefit of the client as it would reduce scam.those who does not introduce KYC also have their way of protecting their clients.it shouldn't be an issue.

It's not going to be an issue if the company or the casino you are submitting the KYC to is trusted. There are a lot of scams that use websites to collect KYC information and sell it to people who are going to buy it. It could be an issue but it's best if you are going to a trusted one.

Yes, if we don't have any faith in the casino website then it is not a good idea to submit our documents. Now, most of the websites are accepted cryptocurrency as a betting scheme which it might be easy for the gambler to spend their currency in gambling. So before gambling, you need to research yourself from the experienced persons reviews about the casino website.

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Quote from: Ararbermas on August 21, 2019, 09:25:58 PM

Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam? Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

It depends, I mean sometimes they do it in purpose, having a large amount of bonuses as a kickstart for the new comer or whoever deposits a certain amount of money they want for you to be able to play on their site, and it is called marketing. They are selling their gambling site's name to the public to attract someone's attention and of course to achieve their daily bankroll to keep their site running, but, still make your own research before depositing to a new gambling site, trust only the old ones, just saying.

Quote from: Ararbermas on August 21, 2019, 09:25:58 PM

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC. but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require kyc it smell fishy as well? What did happen to this world? How to trust again on this kind of sites?

Not all of them requires KYC, some of them are just requiring this because they just want to know that there are no players using illegal bots on playing in their gambling site. They wanted to monitor their players, though it is not really recommended for me to have this KYC because it doesn't make any sense at all, we are in a virtual world which we use cryptocurrency to became anonymous and yet they are requiring KYC, so I'm against it, therefore I only play on those sites which don't require KYC

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Quote from: lixer on August 28, 2019, 04:29:02 AM

Quote from: dothebeats on August 27, 2019, 09:33:27 AM

Personally if a gambling site is offering a deposit bonus, I first check what kind of terms they offer for that and if it has a high requirement for me to be able to attain and withdraw, I don't use it and I just let things be. Usually, only newly-erected sites are the ones offering such bonuses to attain a following from a lot of people early on in the game, and those well-established ones have some kind of bonuses every now and then but not as lucrative and crazy as to what these new sites offer.

I have seen a lot of gamblers that immediately register and start gambling on new sites without even going through the terms like you do and this is foolishness displayed to me. It’s possible that some scam sites are actually not scam as tagged but the ignorance level of players made their money blow into the air.

I am of the opinion that all gamblers should learn to read before betting, read information and read more on detecting the tricks of scam sites. There are still genuine sites out here and they are numerous, definitely more than the scam sites, so I see no reason why gamblers should still fall victim of gambling sites. I might be talking out of ignorance since I have not been scammed, but I believe It’s possible to prevent it.

You are right we should trust old sites more than new one because in New casino most are just scammers but in old one you will see allot of trust able gamblers who are there since long so before trusting make so much research. Having trust worthy site is not easy that’s why be ready to face everything in gambling about your gaming site

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Quote from: spadormie on August 28, 2019, 02:29:45 PM

Quote from: Distinctin on August 27, 2019, 06:24:49 PM

For me, I think KYC is not necessary anymore even if you win big amount, if you are a gambler and been using the site regularly and you don't break any rules that triggers them to require you a KYC, then you will be fine. My personal experience tells me that gambling sites does not require KYC, in my many years of gambling, I also won big but I was never required to do a KYC compliance.

Yeah, I don't think it's necessary to do KYC even if you won a big prize. Since this is cryptocurrency, it promotes being anonymous online. What is the essence of being anonymous when you need to comply KYC? But, the thing in KYC is that this can be also served as the security of the gambling site and the person who won the jackpot. I just don't know what the future holds for the information you sent to them.

If the gambling house got a licensure from the government then they needed to follow procedures providing kyc especially for high earners, it's about taxes and maintenance costs that they've needed to provide with the government, though it's been always have a case where gamblers doubts this process but there's nothing that they can do if this really being required.

Not all the gambling sites will have a license since they are not all operating under one jurisdiction, gambling sites who wants to be more profitable will operate in an area that license is not required, this is to serve a big number of gamblers who likes to play without complying with the KYC.

I believe the gamblers understands the risk that any time the gambling site might go dark, but they accepted the risk because they will enjoy the comfort of playing not exposing their real identity to the gambling sites.

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Quote from: spadormie on August 28, 2019, 02:29:45 PM

Quote from: Distinctin on August 27, 2019, 06:24:49 PM

For me, I think KYC is not necessary anymore even if you win big amount, if you are a gambler and been using the site regularly and you don't break any rules that triggers them to require you a KYC, then you will be fine. My personal experience tells me that gambling sites does not require KYC, in my many years of gambling, I also won big but I was never required to do a KYC compliance.

Yeah, I don't think it's necessary to do KYC even if you won a big prize. Since this is cryptocurrency, it promotes being anonymous online. What is the essence of being anonymous when you need to comply KYC? But, the thing in KYC is that this can be also served as the security of the gambling site and the person who won the jackpot. I just don't know what the future holds for the information you sent to them.

If the gambling house got a licensure from the government then they needed to follow procedures providing kyc especially for high earners, it's about taxes and maintenance costs that they've needed to provide with the government, though it's been always have a case where gamblers doubts this process but there's nothing that they can do if this really being required.

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