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Topic: I don't like this stable price! (Read 1037 times)

legendary
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October 28, 2018, 05:34:58 AM
#92
For some of us that has been speculating that bitcoin is going to pull back to $3,000 and $1500 I don't think the current stability is going to allow that to come to pass and for those that said bitcoin is to moon,  maybe above $20,000 the stability is still not going to allow that to happen.  However,  if bitcoin price is not stable within a range there is not going to be adoptions buy retail and wholesale business. Stability of price is what will help bitcoin become  acceptable.
For some people, indeed, a stable market is not good, because when the market is stable, we cannot gain momentum from significant price movements. For a trader, it is very important because with conditions that often change, it is an opportunity to make a profit. This cannot be ascertained and of course everyone must have their own interests.
legendary
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October 28, 2018, 04:33:24 AM
#91
I would love this stable price rather than seeing it falling. I don't think falling in the last quarter will happen especially there's a BAKKT on 12th of December where others expecting it will cause a rise. It maybe a good oppurtunity to buy if fall occur but I love seeing at a higher price because I just mainly sold.
member
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October 27, 2018, 10:18:28 PM
#90
I think it will wait for the time to come if the beginning of next year the price of bitcoin drops below $ 4000, at least my price analysis is right, well at least it also gives many people the opportunity to buy cheap bitcoin in 2019, I also don't like stable prices like this


I agree we have to wait for few more days, I never thought the price of BTC will go such a low in the last quarter of the year. This is a wonderful opportunity to invest in coins as the prices are cheap.
member
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October 27, 2018, 05:39:01 PM
#89
It's already written on the records that bitcoin's all time low this year was only at 5,000$ mark and a even a pullback to 4,000$ is unlikely to happen. Instead, bitcoin has put a thrust on its cap and price reaching to 6,000$ mark until now.
hero member
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October 27, 2018, 03:04:03 PM
#88
We always need to be stable before increasing its previous value, bitcoin should become stable before increasing to new high value. Bitcoin is always the dominant currency which makes us make more money when the bitcoin price starts increasing again.
We always want conditions of our own choice but actually it is not up to our wish but up to the demand rate that brings increase in price or may be decrease in price also occur whenever the demand rate decreases. However, stable price is good for us but again I will say that it is up to more participation and nothing more that help grow the market as well. The price will soon follow the uptrend if we participate in it because the more the demand rate increases the price will also.

Yes everything depends on market demand and supply but it can be manipulated by whales for their advantage, let it be pump or dump whichever favors them, But the stable price will actually attract more investors as many mainframe investors are bit hesitant just because of volatility.
hero member
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October 27, 2018, 02:04:18 PM
#87
For some of us that has been speculating that bitcoin is going to pull back to $3,000 and $1500 I don't think the current stability is going to allow that to come to pass and for those that said bitcoin is to moon,  maybe above $20,000 the stability is still not going to allow that to happen.  However,  if bitcoin price is not stable within a range there is not going to be adoptions buy retail and wholesale business. Stability of price is what will help bitcoin become  acceptable.
The unstable price invites speculators and investors and if you ask me, I'll say frankly that the use of bitcoin in day to day life is pretty limited and that's mostly due to its pretty high confirmation time to get the transaction confirmed, whereas ethereum and many other altcoins are way faster than bitcoin and can surely be used for the daily needs. And in fact the appreciation of price of bitcoin is the main reason why we are here as it have outperformed many great stocks in the past year by a great margin.
sr. member
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SOL.BIOKRIPT.COM
October 27, 2018, 02:01:12 PM
#86
There are other stable coins that can be used for trade online, I wonder why Tether is not used. It is more difficult for bitcoin to shift ground on the use as online exchange though it was one of the main expected features if it was stable. It should ring aloud that it is now an asset and other coin should serve this purpose as a stable coin use for trade.
sr. member
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October 27, 2018, 01:43:37 PM
#85
We always need to be stable before increasing its previous value, bitcoin should become stable before increasing to new high value. Bitcoin is always the dominant currency which makes us make more money when the bitcoin price starts increasing again.
We always want conditions of our own choice but actually it is not up to our wish but up to the demand rate that brings increase in price or may be decrease in price also occur whenever the demand rate decreases. However, stable price is good for us but again I will say that it is up to more participation and nothing more that help grow the market as well. The price will soon follow the uptrend if we participate in it because the more the demand rate increases the price will also.
legendary
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Bitcoin Trader
October 22, 2018, 06:16:28 AM
#84
I think it will wait for the time to come if the beginning of next year the price of bitcoin drops below $ 4000, at least my price analysis is right, well at least it also gives many people the opportunity to buy cheap bitcoin in 2019, I also don't like stable prices like this
full member
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October 22, 2018, 06:05:49 AM
#83
For some of us that has been speculating that bitcoin is going to pull back to $3,000 and $1500 I don't think the current stability is going to allow that to come to pass and for those that said bitcoin is to moon,  maybe above $20,000 the stability is still not going to allow that to happen.  However,  if bitcoin price is not stable within a range there is not going to be adoptions buy retail and wholesale business. Stability of price is what will help bitcoin become  acceptable.

Well, for the holder, it is likely a disadvantage because their stuck. But for the traders, this is probably the time to buy and sell due to the small fluctuation especially those who are short term traders. Better to divert some of your asset to altcoin and do the trades if you want to at least gain some good amount.
newbie
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October 22, 2018, 06:00:46 AM
#82
Well, Satoshi did not create Bitcoin for the so retail and wholesale people. He created Bitcoin for you & I to hold, be our own bank and trade Bitcoin Peer-to-peer. Stuff like this are pure deviation that will likely centralize Bitcoin in the long run. And once it is centralized,  ideological crypto enthusiasts will have something to criticize about.


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However, if bitcoin price is not stable within a range there is not going to be adoptions


No, there is going to be adoptions. And Bitcoin is not designed to be stable. A stable price means it becomes inflationary like mere fiat.

Finally centralized/ Institutional adoption will destroy the ideals of Bitcoin because they will buy Bitcoin and sell to people just like centralized exchanges do.

Bitcoin was meant to be different from PayPal but it seems they are gradually turning into PayPal in the name of adoption.

I don't know what satoshi had in mind when it comes to retail usage/adoption, but (again assuming he was a real person and not some team with hidden agendas and whatnot) he was smart enough to know that the price would be either "a lot" or "0" in the long term, as quoted in one of his posts here or perhaps in the mailing list.

Anyway, the point is, he knew the price would keep going up, which gives an incentive for people to hoard it. Whether he saw that this would make it less interesting to use to make your groceries with or not I don't know. Im sure he did know but may not have mentioned it explicitly. The point is, your local fiat must collapse for people to spontaneously start using bitcoin out of necessity, until then, it's a better gold (which is more than enough for it to be awesome, I mean c'mon, we didn't had this only less than 10 years ago).

By the time fiat actually collapses, we will hopefully have fast, cheap transactions for retail payments, and all long term holders will be rich and ready to spend their coins.
Bitcoin is generally not for making money but for use as our local currency. If the price is not stable, it’s not a problem; you can hold your coins for more time and don’t be panic about the price. This volatility is good and profitable for many traders. You can also make money in this situation. Continuous growth for bitcoin is not good for new investors. Many people cannot buy in high price.
legendary
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October 21, 2018, 08:49:02 AM
#81
Loads of discussion going on with this topic, honestly I am desperately waiting for a change in market as it is still struggling. Stability should be there when the market is in red but not in the last quarter. However there will be something for a good reason. Lets wait and see.

The market itself isn't struggling, but more so those who are craving for the price swings crypto is known for.

In the end, every smart trader knows how to exploit even the smallest movements; it all comes down do how comfortable you are with leverage trading. In the regular markets (Gold, stocks, etc) traders don't know anything other than leveraging their positions, because it's not worth trading on a 1:1 basis. It's time for people here to accept that and move on.

Realistically speaking, the stable market is nothing more than a representation of how people feel; they aren't bullish, nor bearish, so why should the price do anything?
member
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October 21, 2018, 08:31:04 AM
#80
Loads of discussion going on with this topic, honestly I am desperately waiting for a change in market as it is still struggling. Stability should be there when the market is in red but not in the last quarter. However there will be something for a good reason. Lets wait and see.
hero member
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October 21, 2018, 07:35:50 AM
#79
For some of us that has been speculating that bitcoin is going to pull back to $3,000 and $1500 I don't think the current stability is going to allow that to come to pass and for those that said bitcoin is to moon,  maybe above $20,000 the stability is still not going to allow that to happen.  However,  if bitcoin price is not stable within a range there is not going to be adoptions buy retail and wholesale business. Stability of price is what will help bitcoin become  acceptable.

Only with this price instability, it's possible for us to buy at low price and sell at high price. This make us to get some profit from it.If the price of bitcoin and other cryptocurrency is stable like gold,no one will prepare the cryptocurrency.They will choose the Gold and silver , instead of bitcoin.And bitcoin price will not reach the price of 3000$ again.
legendary
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October 21, 2018, 06:37:30 AM
#78
You will not have to worry about all this annoying stability for very long with all this crazy tether stuff that might be happening in the future if any of this is true you will run to the stability of fiat im sure.
it is probably time to stop wishing for insane swings and time to diversify into safe things like gold or fiat so you have money to buy back in during a huge crypto crash!
legendary
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October 20, 2018, 10:22:18 PM
#77
Bitcoin reaches to 3000$ and 1500$. It's absolutely impossible if this year. In the future, Price of Bitcoin will go to the moon in the year 2019. Because, Recently, Price neither not increasing also not falling. In next time it makes to big jumps.
Nothing is impossible but even if it does, I see no problem in that at all, as I just believe it would be a good time to just be getting into the market more, which is all. I still have the feeling though that we will get to see a huge shake out in the market before we will even be able to think we have reached the bottom and in that case, we will see the volume kicking in real big.

Stable price at the moment is just the market trying to pick a struggle and for what it is worth, however the market tend towards, it will always be an opportunity for huge gains or buying lower. People who do not want to lose their current worth of coins, ask for stable prices as no one will not wish for upward volatile prices. OP must be one of them.

hero member
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cloverdex.io
October 20, 2018, 03:56:39 PM
#76
Stability after a huge fall is a good sign and an indication for a good growth if not as big as spiking to the moon. Slow and steady growth will certainly strengthen the market if it's not returning a good turnover. Hence, just wait a bit. There will be a start-back. Every fourth quarter had shown it's peak every year in the past and we are moving forward at its directions. Market will be back bringing back the right investors into it, this hence hold back your coins. Will see a good result.
legendary
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October 20, 2018, 01:26:44 PM
#75
We need stable bitcoin for massive adoption dude! Stability is the key of success for a currency. I love when bitcoin is stable.
Stability is key, but not necessarily in the current adoption layer. We're still at the point at which people use Bitcoin for speculative purposes rather than currency (money) purposes, and that definitely needs to change.

Stability in current times isn't even needed with how Bitcoin isn't capable of functioning as money for the masses, because it doesn't scale to that degree. We really need lightning network up and running globally for that.

The massive adoption you are referring to will come as we go through more bull runs like what happened last year. Bull runs are adoption boosters because you need something to attract people's attention and interest with.

Do you think you think that the mass will come without bull runs?  Roll Eyes
full member
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October 20, 2018, 09:56:18 AM
#74
I agree that if the price can't be stable it will be difficult to be adopted by the store but it will be difficult to make crypto become stable, crypto is a decentralized currency the market will keep on moving and caused the price repeatedly gonuo and down, maybe a mass adoption could decrease the volatility, but it can't be too stable
I even have a different view with you, if the price of bitcoin is not stable then every adopter will think thousands of times to accept bitcoin either it is used as a payment system or other tool. Unlike if bitcoin prices have a stable price, each adopter will have a view that the price of bitcoin is not volatile and is worth adopting, for example, for payment systems, then each merchant will easily accept bitcoin.
hero member
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October 20, 2018, 09:56:01 AM
#73
For some of us that has been speculating that bitcoin is going to pull back to $3,000 and $1500 I don't think the current stability is going to allow that to come to pass and for those that said bitcoin is to moon,  maybe above $20,000 the stability is still not going to allow that to happen.  However,  if bitcoin price is not stable within a range there is not going to be adoptions buy retail and wholesale business. Stability of price is what will help bitcoin become  acceptable.
We need stable bitcoin for massive adoption dude! Stability is the key of success for a currency. I love when bitcoin is stable.
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