Topic: I dont pay loan but guy take collateral worth 3 times more and call me scammer (Read 1758 times)

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 15, 2015, 07:18:49 AM

Changed "scammer" to "untrustworthy borrower". Thank you for the suggestion!

That's very nice of you, considering the OP is telling people you should not be trusted! Maybe he will edit his feedback now. Undecided

I don't care things like that. There is no use "caring" it besides irritating ourselves. If he feels, I am a scammer, he has the right to post it without breaking forum rules. I only start to care about these things, when he/she/they started posting fake proofs to ruin my reputation.

Quote from: BitcoinBoss666 on May 15, 2015, 07:26:28 AM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 15, 2015, 03:51:02 AM

Quote from: hilariousandco on May 15, 2015, 01:48:54 AM

Quote from: Quickseller on May 14, 2015, 12:10:59 PM

I think he is saying that he should not be labeled a scammer. He doesn't appear to be complaining about loosing the value of his collateral.

yep thats what i think hes saying too, he had collateral so how is he a scammer?

It's possible 'scammer' is not the right word to use (that's arguable) but OP is definitely untrustworthy. The deal was not selling the account for 0.1 BTC, OP agreed to repay the loan and if he doesn't repay it then he's not respecting his own word. I would never trust or deal with a user whose word is worthless.

Besides that a big issue with OP is his trust abuse:

Yeah, I wouldn't say he's a scammer. He secured the loan so nothing was scammed. Like op is complaining about it's actually good for the lender he didn't/can't repay because he can make much profit on the account. Op has nothing to complain about in this regard because he offered it as collateral and knew the terms.

True Irfan got a good profit but therr is no reason for him to give his account back. Also calling scammer when a person do a quick-sale via loan is not a recent thing After all, it is a loan not a sale. I can correct the word in negative feedback if someone tells me more appropriate word which I can agree with.

Quote from: BitcoinBoss666 on May 14, 2015, 10:08:51 PM

I dont care what you think. He earn on this loan 300% this is not normal. I lost 0.2BTC or even more and you told i not be trusted what is wrong with you guys.
And im not scammer.

It doesn't matter if he earned 300% on the collateral - you didn't pay your loan on time and you didn't have an agreement for him to refund the excess value to you. Keep in mind the value of the collateral could have dropped as well (scam accusations on account), in which case you wouldn't be complaining, right?

I'm ok with using your terminology - what do you want to call yourself seeing you failed to pay back a loan as promised?

You shouldnt call him anything, what if he had problems to pay the loan, wich he obviously did, you cant know what happened exactly. If someone does not pay a loan because he simply cannot i wouldnt call him a scammer, if he doesnt pay it because HE DOESNT WANT TO, now thats a different story

If he can't pay, he should tell it before due date. He obviously avoided it and now asking account back realizing the value.

You feedback still dont tell true. I i told you 3 rd time i know about value of my account. And i know it will be senior before loan end. And you dont read what i type. I want this account back becouse he told my accout is worth 0.1(that was not true). And i dont abusing feedback. I dont care what u think.

Me neither but I don't avoid your posts, I read them. It wasn't Sr. Member until the current owner started posting.

No account was senior before irfan get it and please stop lie!

It was A Full Member when you gave me as collateral. Its Activity was 238.

You Lend a Loan from me and gave me your account as collateral, And you did Not not returned my loan on the Mentioned date and I took the control of your account. Simple, Nothing to argue.

BitcoinBoss666

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Merit: 100

Quote from: EcuaMobi on May 15, 2015, 09:43:32 AM

Quote from: BitcoinBoss666 on May 15, 2015, 09:28:46 AM

Quote from: EcuaMobi on May 15, 2015, 07:53:36 AM

I updated my feedback too and removed the word 'scammer' even though that's much more than OP deserves considering he now has left 2 lies in my profile.

OP is a loan defaulter and a trust abuser. Nothing to argue here.

I type true in your feedback you lie in my. You abusing my trust. Nothing to argue here.
Btw show me lie in my feedback.

You just prove my point: you're not arguing with my updated feedback. You're just trolling now, trying to use my words ("Nothing to argue here") without any sense. Not a single word against the content of my feedback though.

Regarding your lies. You left this feedback:

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He give me negative trust becouse some user earn 0.2BTC on my loan

This is obviously a lie. I left you negative feedback because you defaulted a loan.

On your second feedback you say:

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You call me scammer

This is no longer true. I updated my feedback to remove that word which was the only arguable part.

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And you abuse my feedback

This is a lie too. You're the one abusing the trust system.

You also say "This is not funny.". Of course it's not. I have no idea where you got that from. Indeed it's not funny to default a loan and then leave false negative feedback on other people's profiles.

Im not trolling. "this is no longer true" But that was true when i write my feeback. I dont abuse feedback you make it. I told you why i left you negative feedback. That was not for free." And nothing to argue here had big sense for me that why i put it them.

EcuaMobi

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Quote from: BitcoinBoss666 on May 15, 2015, 09:28:46 AM

Quote from: EcuaMobi on May 15, 2015, 07:53:36 AM

I updated my feedback too and removed the word 'scammer' even though that's much more than OP deserves considering he now has left 2 lies in my profile.

OP is a loan defaulter and a trust abuser. Nothing to argue here.

I type true in your feedback you lie in my. You abusing my trust. Nothing to argue here.
Btw show me lie in my feedback.

You just prove my point: you're not arguing with my updated feedback. You're just trolling now, trying to use my words ("Nothing to argue here") without any sense. Not a single word against the content of my feedback though.

Regarding your lies. You left this feedback:

Quote

He give me negative trust becouse some user earn 0.2BTC on my loan

This is obviously a lie. I left you negative feedback because you defaulted a loan.

On your second feedback you say:

Quote

You call me scammer

This is no longer true. I updated my feedback to remove that word which was the only arguable part.

Quote

And you abuse my feedback

This is a lie too. You're the one abusing the trust system.

You also say "This is not funny.". Of course it's not. I have no idea where you got that from. Indeed it's not funny to default a loan and then leave false negative feedback on other people's profiles.

Muhammed Zakir

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Activity: 560

Merit: 509

I prefer Zakir over Muhammed when mentioning me!

Quote from: BitcoinBoss666 on May 15, 2015, 09:26:14 AM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 15, 2015, 07:35:56 AM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 15, 2015, 07:18:49 AM

Changed "scammer" to "untrustworthy borrower". Thank you for the suggestion!

That's very nice of you, considering the OP is telling people you should not be trusted! Maybe he will edit his feedback now. Undecided

I don't care things like that. There is no use "caring" it besides irritating ourselves. If he feels, I am a scammer, he has the right to post it without breaking forum rules. I only start to care about these things, when he/she/they started posting fake proofs to ruin my reputation.

Quote from: BitcoinBoss666 on May 15, 2015, 07:26:28 AM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 15, 2015, 03:51:02 AM

Quote from: hilariousandco on May 15, 2015, 01:48:54 AM

Quote from: Quickseller on May 14, 2015, 12:10:59 PM

I think he is saying that he should not be labeled a scammer. He doesn't appear to be complaining about loosing the value of his collateral.

yep thats what i think hes saying too, he had collateral so how is he a scammer?

It's possible 'scammer' is not the right word to use (that's arguable) but OP is definitely untrustworthy. The deal was not selling the account for 0.1 BTC, OP agreed to repay the loan and if he doesn't repay it then he's not respecting his own word. I would never trust or deal with a user whose word is worthless.

Besides that a big issue with OP is his trust abuse:

Yeah, I wouldn't say he's a scammer. He secured the loan so nothing was scammed. Like op is complaining about it's actually good for the lender he didn't/can't repay because he can make much profit on the account. Op has nothing to complain about in this regard because he offered it as collateral and knew the terms.

True Irfan got a good profit but therr is no reason for him to give his account back. Also calling scammer when a person do a quick-sale via loan is not a recent thing After all, it is a loan not a sale. I can correct the word in negative feedback if someone tells me more appropriate word which I can agree with.

Quote from: BitcoinBoss666 on May 14, 2015, 10:08:51 PM

I dont care what you think. He earn on this loan 300% this is not normal. I lost 0.2BTC or even more and you told i not be trusted what is wrong with you guys.
And im not scammer.

It doesn't matter if he earned 300% on the collateral - you didn't pay your loan on time and you didn't have an agreement for him to refund the excess value to you. Keep in mind the value of the collateral could have dropped as well (scam accusations on account), in which case you wouldn't be complaining, right?

I'm ok with using your terminology - what do you want to call yourself seeing you failed to pay back a loan as promised?

You shouldnt call him anything, what if he had problems to pay the loan, wich he obviously did, you cant know what happened exactly. If someone does not pay a loan because he simply cannot i wouldnt call him a scammer, if he doesnt pay it because HE DOESNT WANT TO, now thats a different story

If he can't pay, he should tell it before due date. He obviously avoided it and now asking account back realizing the value.

You feedback still dont tell true. I i told you 3 rd time i know about value of my account. And i know it will be senior before loan end. And you dont read what i type. I want this account back becouse he told my accout is worth 0.1(that was not true). And i dont abusing feedback. I dont care what u think.

Me neither but I don't avoid your posts, I read them. It wasn't Sr. Member until the current owner started posting.

No account was senior before irfan get it and please stop lie!

Sorry, my mistake! I think I miscalculated it. Thanks for correcting!

BitcoinBoss666

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Activity: 124

Merit: 100

Quote from: EcuaMobi on May 15, 2015, 07:53:36 AM

I updated my feedback too and removed the word 'scammer' even though that's much more than OP deserves considering he now has left 2 lies in my profile.

OP is a loan defaulter and a trust abuser. Nothing to argue here.

I type true in your feedback you lie in my. You abusing my trust. Nothing to argue here.
Btw show me lie in my feedback.

BitcoinBoss666

full member

Activity: 124

Merit: 100

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 15, 2015, 07:35:56 AM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 15, 2015, 07:18:49 AM

Changed "scammer" to "untrustworthy borrower". Thank you for the suggestion!

That's very nice of you, considering the OP is telling people you should not be trusted! Maybe he will edit his feedback now. Undecided

I don't care things like that. There is no use "caring" it besides irritating ourselves. If he feels, I am a scammer, he has the right to post it without breaking forum rules. I only start to care about these things, when he/she/they started posting fake proofs to ruin my reputation.

Quote from: BitcoinBoss666 on May 15, 2015, 07:26:28 AM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 15, 2015, 03:51:02 AM

Quote from: hilariousandco on May 15, 2015, 01:48:54 AM

Quote from: Quickseller on May 14, 2015, 12:10:59 PM

I think he is saying that he should not be labeled a scammer. He doesn't appear to be complaining about loosing the value of his collateral.

yep thats what i think hes saying too, he had collateral so how is he a scammer?

It's possible 'scammer' is not the right word to use (that's arguable) but OP is definitely untrustworthy. The deal was not selling the account for 0.1 BTC, OP agreed to repay the loan and if he doesn't repay it then he's not respecting his own word. I would never trust or deal with a user whose word is worthless.

Besides that a big issue with OP is his trust abuse:

Yeah, I wouldn't say he's a scammer. He secured the loan so nothing was scammed. Like op is complaining about it's actually good for the lender he didn't/can't repay because he can make much profit on the account. Op has nothing to complain about in this regard because he offered it as collateral and knew the terms.

True Irfan got a good profit but therr is no reason for him to give his account back. Also calling scammer when a person do a quick-sale via loan is not a recent thing After all, it is a loan not a sale. I can correct the word in negative feedback if someone tells me more appropriate word which I can agree with.

Quote from: BitcoinBoss666 on May 14, 2015, 10:08:51 PM

I dont care what you think. He earn on this loan 300% this is not normal. I lost 0.2BTC or even more and you told i not be trusted what is wrong with you guys.
And im not scammer.

It doesn't matter if he earned 300% on the collateral - you didn't pay your loan on time and you didn't have an agreement for him to refund the excess value to you. Keep in mind the value of the collateral could have dropped as well (scam accusations on account), in which case you wouldn't be complaining, right?

I'm ok with using your terminology - what do you want to call yourself seeing you failed to pay back a loan as promised?

You shouldnt call him anything, what if he had problems to pay the loan, wich he obviously did, you cant know what happened exactly. If someone does not pay a loan because he simply cannot i wouldnt call him a scammer, if he doesnt pay it because HE DOESNT WANT TO, now thats a different story

If he can't pay, he should tell it before due date. He obviously avoided it and now asking account back realizing the value.

You feedback still dont tell true. I i told you 3 rd time i know about value of my account. And i know it will be senior before loan end. And you dont read what i type. I want this account back becouse he told my accout is worth 0.1(that was not true). And i dont abusing feedback. I dont care what u think.

Me neither but I don't avoid your posts, I read them. It wasn't Sr. Member until the current owner started posting.

No account was senior before irfan get it and please stop lie!

EcuaMobi

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Activity: 1876

Merit: 1475

I updated my feedback too and removed the word 'scammer' even though that's much more than OP deserves considering he now has left 2 lies in my profile.

OP is a loan defaulter and a trust abuser. Nothing to argue here.

Muhammed Zakir

hero member

Activity: 560

Merit: 509

I prefer Zakir over Muhammed when mentioning me!

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 15, 2015, 07:18:49 AM

Changed "scammer" to "untrustworthy borrower". Thank you for the suggestion!

That's very nice of you, considering the OP is telling people you should not be trusted! Maybe he will edit his feedback now. Undecided

I don't care things like that. There is no use "caring" it besides irritating ourselves. If he feels, I am a scammer, he has the right to post it without breaking forum rules. I only start to care about these things, when he/she/they started posting fake proofs to ruin my reputation.

Quote from: BitcoinBoss666 on May 15, 2015, 07:26:28 AM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 15, 2015, 03:51:02 AM

Quote from: hilariousandco on May 15, 2015, 01:48:54 AM

Quote from: Quickseller on May 14, 2015, 12:10:59 PM

I think he is saying that he should not be labeled a scammer. He doesn't appear to be complaining about loosing the value of his collateral.

yep thats what i think hes saying too, he had collateral so how is he a scammer?

It's possible 'scammer' is not the right word to use (that's arguable) but OP is definitely untrustworthy. The deal was not selling the account for 0.1 BTC, OP agreed to repay the loan and if he doesn't repay it then he's not respecting his own word. I would never trust or deal with a user whose word is worthless.

Besides that a big issue with OP is his trust abuse:

Yeah, I wouldn't say he's a scammer. He secured the loan so nothing was scammed. Like op is complaining about it's actually good for the lender he didn't/can't repay because he can make much profit on the account. Op has nothing to complain about in this regard because he offered it as collateral and knew the terms.

True Irfan got a good profit but therr is no reason for him to give his account back. Also calling scammer when a person do a quick-sale via loan is not a recent thing After all, it is a loan not a sale. I can correct the word in negative feedback if someone tells me more appropriate word which I can agree with.

Quote from: BitcoinBoss666 on May 14, 2015, 10:08:51 PM

I dont care what you think. He earn on this loan 300% this is not normal. I lost 0.2BTC or even more and you told i not be trusted what is wrong with you guys.
And im not scammer.

It doesn't matter if he earned 300% on the collateral - you didn't pay your loan on time and you didn't have an agreement for him to refund the excess value to you. Keep in mind the value of the collateral could have dropped as well (scam accusations on account), in which case you wouldn't be complaining, right?

I'm ok with using your terminology - what do you want to call yourself seeing you failed to pay back a loan as promised?

You shouldnt call him anything, what if he had problems to pay the loan, wich he obviously did, you cant know what happened exactly. If someone does not pay a loan because he simply cannot i wouldnt call him a scammer, if he doesnt pay it because HE DOESNT WANT TO, now thats a different story

If he can't pay, he should tell it before due date. He obviously avoided it and now asking account back realizing the value.

You feedback still dont tell true. I i told you 3 rd time i know about value of my account. And i know it will be senior before loan end. And you dont read what i type. I want this account back becouse he told my accout is worth 0.1(that was not true). And i dont abusing feedback. I dont care what u think.

Me neither but I don't avoid your posts, I read them. It wasn't Sr. Member until the current owner started posting.

BitcoinBoss666

full member

Activity: 124

Merit: 100

And i give red feeback becouse i think you dont have right. This is not abusing i have good reason for it and this is not for free.

BitcoinBoss666

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Activity: 124

Merit: 100

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 15, 2015, 03:51:02 AM

Quote from: hilariousandco on May 15, 2015, 01:48:54 AM

Quote from: Quickseller on May 14, 2015, 12:10:59 PM

I think he is saying that he should not be labeled a scammer. He doesn't appear to be complaining about loosing the value of his collateral.

yep thats what i think hes saying too, he had collateral so how is he a scammer?

It's possible 'scammer' is not the right word to use (that's arguable) but OP is definitely untrustworthy. The deal was not selling the account for 0.1 BTC, OP agreed to repay the loan and if he doesn't repay it then he's not respecting his own word. I would never trust or deal with a user whose word is worthless.

Besides that a big issue with OP is his trust abuse:

Yeah, I wouldn't say he's a scammer. He secured the loan so nothing was scammed. Like op is complaining about it's actually good for the lender he didn't/can't repay because he can make much profit on the account. Op has nothing to complain about in this regard because he offered it as collateral and knew the terms.

True Irfan got a good profit but therr is no reason for him to give his account back. Also calling scammer when a person do a quick-sale via loan is not a recent thing After all, it is a loan not a sale. I can correct the word in negative feedback if someone tells me more appropriate word which I can agree with.

Quote from: BitcoinBoss666 on May 14, 2015, 10:08:51 PM

I dont care what you think. He earn on this loan 300% this is not normal. I lost 0.2BTC or even more and you told i not be trusted what is wrong with you guys.
And im not scammer.

It doesn't matter if he earned 300% on the collateral - you didn't pay your loan on time and you didn't have an agreement for him to refund the excess value to you. Keep in mind the value of the collateral could have dropped as well (scam accusations on account), in which case you wouldn't be complaining, right?

I'm ok with using your terminology - what do you want to call yourself seeing you failed to pay back a loan as promised?

You shouldnt call him anything, what if he had problems to pay the loan, wich he obviously did, you cant know what happened exactly. If someone does not pay a loan because he simply cannot i wouldnt call him a scammer, if he doesnt pay it because HE DOESNT WANT TO, now thats a different story

If he can't pay, he should tell it before due date. He obviously avoided it and now asking account back realizing the value.

You feedback still dont tell true. I i told you 3 rd time i know about value of my account. And i know it will be senior before loan end. And you dont read what i type. I want this account back becouse he told my accout is worth 0.1(that was not true). And i dont abusing feedback. I dont care what u think.

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Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 15, 2015, 07:18:49 AM

Changed "scammer" to "untrustworthy borrower". Thank you for the suggestion!

That's very nice of you, considering the OP is telling people you should not be trusted! Maybe he will edit his feedback now. Undecided

Muhammed Zakir

hero member

Activity: 560

Merit: 509

I prefer Zakir over Muhammed when mentioning me!

Quote from: Grand_Voyageur on May 15, 2015, 04:09:03 AM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 15, 2015, 03:51:02 AM

Quote from: hilariousandco on May 15, 2015, 01:48:54 AM

Quote from: Quickseller on May 14, 2015, 12:10:59 PM

I think he is saying that he should not be labeled a scammer. He doesn't appear to be complaining about loosing the value of his collateral.

yep thats what i think hes saying too, he had collateral so how is he a scammer?

It's possible 'scammer' is not the right word to use (that's arguable) but OP is definitely untrustworthy. The deal was not selling the account for 0.1 BTC, OP agreed to repay the loan and if he doesn't repay it then he's not respecting his own word. I would never trust or deal with a user whose word is worthless.

Besides that a big issue with OP is his trust abuse:

Yeah, I wouldn't say he's a scammer. He secured the loan so nothing was scammed. Like op is complaining about it's actually good for the lender he didn't/can't repay because he can make much profit on the account. Op has nothing to complain about in this regard because he offered it as collateral and knew the terms.

True Irfan got a good profit but therr is no reason for him to give his account back. Also calling scammer when a person do a quick-sale via loan is not a recent thing After all, it is a loan not a sale. I can correct the word in negative feedback if someone tells me more appropriate word which I can agree with.

Have you considered putting it as plain as Defaulted borrower? IMO, If you think it is not being clear enough you could still rephrasing it as Untrustworthy defaulted borrower. Just my 2 satoshi, however.

Changed "scammer" to "untrustworthy borrower". Thank you for the suggestion!

Quote from: Grand_Voyageur on May 15, 2015, 04:09:03 AM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 15, 2015, 03:51:02 AM