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Topic: I feel like bitcoin is a losing battle (Read 1522 times)

b!z
legendary
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Merit: 1010
May 28, 2014, 11:02:59 AM
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Bitcoin is a losing battle, and we are on the winning side.
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1000
I can't speak for everyone else, but I'm skeptical that you had EXACTLY enough money to survive this whole time. Not so little that you died, not enough that you could have saved literally anything at all. The odds of being within $0.01 of death for 3 years are so low that it's overwhelmingly more likely that you are lying.

There are people out there with no cars and no access to health care whatsoever. They don't just pass out from time to time, they are actually starving and dying of hunger. These people elicit much more sympathy than westerners with days to spend arguing on internet forums.

They don't even have a shitty ancient laptop with which to ignore $5 worth of BTC for 10 minutes labor like you just did. I'm offering you a better rate than I'm getting paid for my own time.

In the last 3 years:
Have you gone to a movie theater?
Have you been using public transit?
Have you cooked all your own meals?
Have you paid for an app?
Did you buy any soda or snacks at vending machines?

You had an early adopter advantage that many here are quite jealous of, and you squandered it.

I think it's pretty obvioush why the OP hates BTC.. if they spent that $100 they were going to they would be laughing right now.  People get really angry when the realise they missed the boat when they had a ticket, were on board and decided to get off.
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
Sorry to hear about your situation OP but you're only saying this because of your current situation. Sad
legendary
Activity: 1596
Merit: 1000
Sorry to hear that sad story! Even the price jumped from $14 to $500, there are still many people who are losing money. Buying and holding is easy saying than doing. OP is not able to invest BTC and should get rid of it. he should pay more attention to his life and the people around him, do whatever he was able,bravely face the future .
hero member
Activity: 950
Merit: 1001
I can't speak for everyone else, but I'm skeptical that you had EXACTLY enough money to survive this whole time. Not so little that you died, not enough that you could have saved literally anything at all. The odds of being within $0.01 of death for 3 years are so low that it's overwhelmingly more likely that you are lying.

There are people out there with no cars and no access to health care whatsoever. They don't just pass out from time to time, they are actually starving and dying of hunger. These people elicit much more sympathy than westerners with days to spend arguing on internet forums.

They don't even have a shitty ancient laptop with which to ignore $5 worth of BTC for 10 minutes labor like you just did. I'm offering you a better rate than I'm getting paid for my own time.

In the last 3 years:
Have you gone to a movie theater?
Have you been using public transit?
Have you cooked all your own meals?
Have you paid for an app?
Did you buy any soda or snacks at vending machines?

You had an early adopter advantage that many here are quite jealous of, and you squandered it.
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
Such is life in crypto paradise
I'm suffering because everyone around me is suffering, I can't help everyone and I want to. I need to help myself, and I can't help anyone else because I don't have anything to help with.

Story of my life.

I hope the best for you and your family. Never give up!
full member
Activity: 140
Merit: 110
bitcoinnaire
I'm suffering because everyone around me is suffering, I can't help everyone and I want to. I need to help myself, and I can't help anyone else because I don't have anything to help with.

Anyways enough of this.
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
what are you trying to tell us here

Must be some kind of roleplaying or fiction writer.  Apparently the guy has been on the poverty line for well over five years now.

If that were me, would had learned by maybe year #1 to either..

A.  Get a job
B.  If can't find a job, then learn to sell drugs or panhandle
C.  Relocate to North Dakota / Alberta and make $$$

Yes, some kind of roleplayer. Why are people so skeptical of honest to god stories? Here's the gist.

In 2007 I was involved in a major car accident that left me with severe panic and anxiety and PTSD, in 2008 I was admitted to the hospital because I wasn't eating at all and they found I had really bad gallstones and they needed to be removed immediately. From 2008 til now I've been dealing with the after effects of both, from raging panic to anxiety so deep and hard that I can barely get out of bed. I am fighting to get on SSI but they apparently don't feel I"m disabled enough yet I've displayed a level of anxiety that can only be described as SEVERE. The doctor even approved me for disability so I'm legal.

I don't have any money, I don't have any assets. I don't have anything but the laptop I'm typing on and some clothes stashed away.

Why is this so hard to understand, are people not allowed to suffer without skepticism?

have you tried meditation by the way? it can help - i've met countless people who suffer from one thing or another, and it can help. i've seen people make 180 degree turns on their life. you can do 10 day courses and if you don't have money, it's free.

if you are suffering, you should seek out to understand why you are suffering.
full member
Activity: 140
Merit: 110
bitcoinnaire
what are you trying to tell us here

Must be some kind of roleplaying or fiction writer.  Apparently the guy has been on the poverty line for well over five years now.

If that were me, would had learned by maybe year #1 to either..

A.  Get a job
B.  If can't find a job, then learn to sell drugs or panhandle
C.  Relocate to North Dakota / Alberta and make $$$

Yes, some kind of roleplayer. Why are people so skeptical of honest to god stories? Here's the gist.

In 2007 I was involved in a major car accident that left me with severe panic and anxiety and PTSD, in 2008 I was admitted to the hospital because I wasn't eating at all and they found I had really bad gallstones and they needed to be removed immediately. From 2008 til now I've been dealing with the after effects of both, from raging panic to anxiety so deep and hard that I can barely get out of bed. I am fighting to get on SSI but they apparently don't feel I"m disabled enough yet I've displayed a level of anxiety that can only be described as SEVERE. The doctor even approved me for disability so I'm legal.

I don't have any money, I don't have any assets. I don't have anything but the laptop I'm typing on and some clothes stashed away.

Why is this so hard to understand, are people not allowed to suffer without skepticism?
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 506
what are you trying to tell us here

Must be some kind of roleplaying or fiction writer.  Apparently the guy has been on the poverty line for well over five years now.

If that were me, would had learned by maybe year #1 to either..

A.  Get a job
B.  If can't find a job, then learn to sell drugs or panhandle
C.  Relocate to North Dakota / Alberta and make $$$
full member
Activity: 140
Merit: 110
bitcoinnaire
Not sure what you could had done different.  Finding out about Bitcoin at $14 was too late.  What kind of money could you had expect?   $1000 at $14 is only around $40,000 today - not enough money for a man in your predicament, who has to help two sick parents and save his home.  Now if you claimed you knew about Bitcoin when it was only a few cents then that would be something else.

There is some hope in alternates but that requires immense foresight.  People bought a share of NxT at 1.5 BTC back in October (which then was maybe $300) and now they have $2+ million each.  If you had invested $10,000 into Darkcoin a month ago, you would be a rich guy right now.

I don't see why you can't get involved in alternates.   You apparently have money for an internet connection and some kind of shelter arrangement

Shelter yes, I'm not paying for this internet. Remember I'm at my mothers.

Anyways, it's all a big deal of "too little too late" or "wrong place wrong time" and that's about it. I guess I just learned it the hard way, and that's unfortunate. I really wish I had invested or had the money to invest but I didn't, and that's that. It seems hard to believe but there are people living well below the poverty line that don't have money to spend without thinking about where their next shut off notice is going to be.
hero member
Activity: 672
Merit: 500
http://fuk.io - check it out!
what are you trying to tell us here
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 506
Not sure what you could had done different.  Finding out about Bitcoin at $14 was too late.  What kind of money could you had expect?   $1000 at $14 is only around $40,000 today - not enough money for a man in your predicament, who has to help two sick parents and save his home.  Now if you claimed you knew about Bitcoin when it was only a few cents then that would be something else.

There is some hope in alternates but that requires immense foresight.  People bought a share of NxT at 1.5 BTC back in October (which then was maybe $300) and now they have $2+ million each.  If you had invested $10,000 into Darkcoin a month ago, you would be a rich guy right now.

I don't see why you can't get involved in alternates.   You apparently have money for an internet connection and some kind of shelter arrangement.

Although all this stuff is equivalent to winning the lottery.  Bitcoin only created like maybe 500 millionaires (not counting sockpuppet wallets) and NxT only created maybe 5 (not counting sockpuppets).  This is compared to perhaps 2 million people who use Bitcoin around the world, so the distribution of wealth is worse than real world distribution.
full member
Activity: 140
Merit: 110
bitcoinnaire
How can I buy coin without any money.

That's the problem, I don't have anything to invest here. I can't sell my laptop, or any other cheap trinket because it won't net me any amount of BTC that I can put away and use for the future. The laptop I'm using isn't worth enough to sell on craigslist!

Anyways, maybe I should just close this thread, or maybe a mod can? I'm tired of seeing it honestly, I respect all of your opinions but I guess I'd have to go into detail of what has happened over the past several years and how I've ended up the way I am right now.

Thanks for the advice though.

looks like you have an ad signature thing going on. why not post a little more on the forums? if you spend enough time, you can potentially earn .5 BTC in a month. all for posting.

That's what I'm trying to do at least, I'm hoping it provides some kind of profit at least.
full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 100
VocalPlatform.com
How can I buy coin without any money.

That's the problem, I don't have anything to invest here. I can't sell my laptop, or any other cheap trinket because it won't net me any amount of BTC that I can put away and use for the future. The laptop I'm using isn't worth enough to sell on craigslist!

Anyways, maybe I should just close this thread, or maybe a mod can? I'm tired of seeing it honestly, I respect all of your opinions but I guess I'd have to go into detail of what has happened over the past several years and how I've ended up the way I am right now.

Thanks for the advice though.

looks like you have an ad signature thing going on. why not post a little more on the forums? if you spend enough time, you can potentially earn .5 BTC in a month. all for posting.

Yes there are always ways to get some bitcoins, and the ways you can get them online are more easy than earning fiat. fiat online earning sites are most of them scams.
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
How can I buy coin without any money.

That's the problem, I don't have anything to invest here. I can't sell my laptop, or any other cheap trinket because it won't net me any amount of BTC that I can put away and use for the future. The laptop I'm using isn't worth enough to sell on craigslist!

Anyways, maybe I should just close this thread, or maybe a mod can? I'm tired of seeing it honestly, I respect all of your opinions but I guess I'd have to go into detail of what has happened over the past several years and how I've ended up the way I am right now.

Thanks for the advice though.

looks like you have an ad signature thing going on. why not post a little more on the forums? if you spend enough time, you can potentially earn .5 BTC in a month. all for posting.
hero member
Activity: 1492
Merit: 763
Life is a taxable event
It is possible that a few years from now maybe 1 Billion people will be using bitcoin. So 2.1 bitcents is a fair share.

So, do you have $12?
full member
Activity: 140
Merit: 110
bitcoinnaire
How can I buy coin without any money.

That's the problem, I don't have anything to invest here. I can't sell my laptop, or any other cheap trinket because it won't net me any amount of BTC that I can put away and use for the future. The laptop I'm using isn't worth enough to sell on craigslist!

Anyways, maybe I should just close this thread, or maybe a mod can? I'm tired of seeing it honestly, I respect all of your opinions but I guess I'd have to go into detail of what has happened over the past several years and how I've ended up the way I am right now.

Thanks for the advice though.
full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 100
VocalPlatform.com
No I never lost any coin, at the time when they were dirt cheap I didn't have any money then, and that's when cpu mining was becoming a thing of the past. I had a little netbook that could only pound out like maybe 10mh/s at most and I'd never heard of altcoins yet.

Trying to keep my head on while I'm going through all of this strife is really hard to do, especially when I need this money now to help the people I love the most.

But how can you dint had even 50 bucks?, maybe you dint imagine what it could be, my advice is that as bitcoin is only at the begin of a huge movement, buy some coins now, if not you would regret more in the future
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
short-sighted or not, i am planning on bitcoins being worth a lot of money someday. i'm talking six figures, if not seven. maybe that is off base. however, going on this assumption, i know that every effort i take to amassing bitcoin now will pay off hugely in the future. so while i was once bothered by not being able to get lots of btc (thousands for instance), i am now just doing the best i can to collect every mBit and bitcent i can, wherever i can.
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