I Have a Question ~ Are 1xbit Campaigners Playing on 1xbit? - page 2.

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Quote from: dezoel on August 27, 2022, 03:06:32 AM

It is intentional for sure because if it's about miss management then they can always revert their reputation back to normal and replace the old manager with a better manager which is more fair and only wants the best for the company that they are working with. If they didn't choose be a scammer then maybe their performance will also change.

That's what they claimed a year ago or so: that old management was changed and the new one was going to solve the pending problems with many users. I don't follow the case every day, but it seems that the number of complaints remains the same. Whether they are about old problems or about the same ones but in the present, I haven't looked into it yet.

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Quote from: Docnaster on August 26, 2022, 03:24:11 AM

Quote from: Vaskiy on August 25, 2022, 06:44:14 PM

I'm not sure about the participants spending, but 1xbit keeps themselves with addition of more sports events. In recent days it have added cosmos to the list of cryptocurrencies used for gambling. One of early established platform, for now if they've solved the acquisition it could've grown much bigger taking the lead role as cryptocurrency accepted sportsbook.

It keeps making me wonder why 1xbit chose to scam. Whether it was intentional or a certain management mismanaged the company and spoilt her reputation. If 1xbit don't want to scam they will make good company because of variety they put in their site. But it's unfortunate they are happy scamming people. Who knows if it is only members of the forum that are affected or random victims.

On this world there is always a bad guy aside from the good guy and unfortunately 1xbit chooses to be a bad guy/service provider. I don't know what they can get with it but maybe bad guys can only answer it?

It is intentional for sure because if it's about miss management then they can always revert their reputation back to normal and replace the old manager with a better manager which is more fair and only wants the best for the company that they are working with. If they didn't choose be a scammer then maybe their performance will also change.

Maybe they will not be aggressive in terms of advertisement and site improvements and the reason why they do this is only to attract and scam more people.

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Quote from: Hispo on August 26, 2022, 03:01:11 PM

Quote from: Tomohisa on August 26, 2022, 12:14:53 PM

For member or full member accounts, I can understand since it's easy to get merit to rank up to that level. But for Hero/Legendary, yeah I don't get why they throw away such accounts and reputations for weekly payment from a scam campaign like 1xbit. I suspect most of those accounts are alts or multi account or already have a low reputation already.
That means they can anytime ditch that account for another or give merit to rank up a new account.

When the merit system got implemented those who already had rank earned by activity received "airdropped merit", Hero Members received 500 merits and Legendaries Received 1000 free merits. This means that today in order to have a Legendary account to throw away by joining 1xbit, that account just needed to have activity and be old enough to have received free merits in 2018.

What actually you are saying is that those legend accounts that joined 1xbit didn't work so hard to build their account from zero to legendary, since they received airdrop merits. You are right if it is what you meant. I have another approach to this. If the purpose of someone is to make money in the forum only, those legendary accounts didn't just spoil their accounts but they have made good money for over 1year. 1xbit started with $150 per week and they have been consistent in running multiple campaigns.

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Quote from: Tomohisa on August 26, 2022, 12:14:53 PM

For member or full member accounts, I can understand since it's easy to get merit to rank up to that level. But for Hero/Legendary, yeah I don't get why they throw away such accounts and reputations for weekly payment from a scam campaign like 1xbit. I suspect most of those accounts are alts or multi account or already have a low reputation already.
That means they can anytime ditch that account for another or give merit to rank up a new account.

The merit system we currently have it is actually quite recent in comparison to the age of the forum itself. The merit system started in 2018, I think. Before the merit system implementation, users could rank up to Hero/Legendary rank just by accumulating activity (participating during enough months in a consistent way).

When the merit system got implemented those who already had rank earned by activity received "airdropped merit", Hero Members received 500 merits and Legendaries Received 1000 free merits. This means that today in order to have a Legendary account to throw away by joining 1xbit, that account just needed to have activity and be old enough to have received free merits in 2018.

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Quote from: Tomohisa on August 26, 2022, 12:14:53 PM

For member or full member accounts, I can understand since it's easy to get merit to rank up to that level. But for Hero/Legendary, yeah I don't get why they throw away such accounts and reputations for weekly payment from a scam campaign like 1xbit. I suspect most of those accounts are alts or multi-account or already have a low reputation.
That means they can anytime ditch that account for another or give merit to rank up a new account.

When you talk about reputation, it doesn't necessarily mean the level or rank of an individual in any space, it is a matter of personality and self-respect. A lot of conditions are attached to an individual decision but above all good reputation is far better than money most especially in a decentralized space like bitcointalk where a lot of opportunities to learn from other experience members and become something good in society.

So a newbie can decide to build a reputation where an ignorant legendary will throw away his reputation just for a weekly Penny from a proven scam casino.

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For member or full member accounts, I can understand since it's easy to get merit to rank up to that level. But for Hero/Legendary, yeah I don't get why they throw away such accounts and reputations for weekly payment from a scam campaign like 1xbit. I suspect most of those accounts are alts or multi account or already have a low reputation already.
That means they can anytime ditch that account for another or give merit to rank up a new account.

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Are they accepting CROs now? I'm curious how this altcoinwill perform in the future (Matt Damon's commercial was like OMG but the price, even when it spiked, it wasn't as high as I could expect).

About 1xbit, I don't think campaigners would have any issues in their platform, because it would suppose worse reputation for them. On the other hand, what's the problem with them? is that they don't let you withdraw if you are in a country excluded from their platform in their TOS? I guess that admins would bypass this rule in the case of campaigners/promoters.

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Quote from: malcovi2 on August 25, 2022, 06:38:17 PM

Quote from: virasisog on August 25, 2022, 04:59:20 PM

They don't need to use their payment as betting capital on their site because they're not asked to. I'm sure that participants also have an idea about the trust issues of the said campaign but they're also staying to earn.

I agree and I also think that most of the 1xbit signature participants are multiaccount users probably its a big reason why they are defending this scam platform. They aren't dumb enough to use a fellow thief's service/platform they know that they can be screwed once they put in money.

exactly , they already understand what kind of company that pays them so with those agreement , surely they will prevent themselves from playing as the chance of being another victim or problem to occur .

Quote from: Vaskiy on August 25, 2022, 06:44:14 PM

I'm not sure about the participants spending, but 1xbit keeps themselves with addition of more sports events. In recent days it have added cosmos to the list of cryptocurrencies used for gambling. One of early established platform, for now if they've solved the acquisition it could've grown much bigger taking the lead role as cryptocurrency accepted sportsbook.

maybe they are just extending the option of players so they can gain more players from crypto users yet their cases and issues are still floating and no clear answers at all.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on August 25, 2022, 06:44:14 PM

I'm not sure about the participants spending, but 1xbit keeps themselves with addition of more sports events. In recent days it have added cosmos to the list of cryptocurrencies used for gambling. One of early established platform, for now if they've solved the acquisition it could've grown much bigger taking the lead role as cryptocurrency accepted sportsbook.

It keeps making me wonder why 1xbit chose to scam. Whether it was intentional or a certain management mismanaged the company and spoilt her reputation. If 1xbit don't want to scam they will make good company because of variety they put in their site. But it's unfortunate they are happy scamming people. Who knows if it is only members of the forum that are affected or random victims.

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Quote from: UserU on August 25, 2022, 03:00:15 AM

Quote from: mak013 on August 25, 2022, 02:53:26 AM

It is so. But there is one moment that makes differs. It is trust. When you make job that you don`t like - it`s not a problem. You change job and continue to work. But with negative trust you can have problems with getting a new job. But if accounts were leveluped before merit system - their owners don`t understand the price of this decision.

They don't really care. Most importantly, the money rolls in.

Assuming the campaign stops paying one day, they could always purchase an alt for another campaign or move on with life or their real job.

It is strange for me. I understand that they get money right now. But they must understand that it will end some day. But this is true for real users. There are businessman yet. I don`t know how much such account costs and i think that it is possible decision for the participants - there were lots of bot accounts here. I think that men, who made the bounty their main business calculates it and if they still do it - it is profitable. It is bad for the board but good for the business.

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I'm not sure about the participants spending, but 1xbit keeps themselves with addition of more sports events. In recent days it have added cosmos to the list of cryptocurrencies used for gambling. One of early established platform, for now if they've solved the acquisition it could've grown much bigger taking the lead role as cryptocurrency accepted sportsbook.

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Quote from: virasisog on August 25, 2022, 04:59:20 PM

They don't need to use their payment as betting capital on their site because they're not asked to. I'm sure that participants also have an idea about the trust issues of the said campaign but they're also staying to earn.

I agree and I also think that most of the 1xbit signature participants are multiaccount users probably its a big reason why they are defending this scam platform. They aren't dumb enough to use a fellow thief's service/platform they know that they can be screwed once they put in money.

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Quote from: virasisog on August 25, 2022, 04:59:20 PM

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Quote from: UserU on August 25, 2022, 11:39:58 AM

Quote from: Solosanz on August 25, 2022, 10:54:34 AM

I'm just hoping when 1xbit campaign already ended, there's no campaign will accept negative feedback account anymore. This will make them regret to participate scam campaign and if they're able to join other campaigns, the negative trusts seems to be useless.

If they can sponsor tournaments and matches, signature campaigns are the least of their worries. The ROI seems to be quite decent, based on the number of allegations opened from time to time.

They wont be able to sustain on running their campaign for long if they arent really making revenue but since we are seeing the opposite thing then we could really indeed say that they are really making

sufficient revenue to sustain up in regarding into their marketing and other promotion.Totally that mind boggling considering on whats the reputation they do have specially into this forum.

They are indeed making money despite of those issues and continue on what they are doing.Campaigners arent mostly necessarily to be a player on the company that they
are really that promoting since it wouldnt really be that necessary.

The signature campaign isn't really a big deal to them because their main focus is to earn. The purpose of their campaign is to get advertised on this forum so the negative trust of some of their participants isn't their concern anymore. They don't need to use their payment as betting capital on their site because they're not asked to. I'm sure that participants also have an idea about the trust issues of the said campaign but they're also staying to earn.

They are staying of course because those red painted accounts could never be useful and who would be that dumb person on not to jump into something that they do know that they could earn bucks?

Its an opportunity for them thats why there's nothing they could lose but rather they would earn something from those negative account and since 1xbit doesnt really care about reputation then it would

really be just understandable that they would really be allowing negative users to join up the campaign.They dont really care about reputation since from the beginning.

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Quote from: stomachgrowls on August 25, 2022, 02:53:51 PM

Quote from: UserU on August 25, 2022, 11:39:58 AM

Quote from: Solosanz on August 25, 2022, 10:54:34 AM

I'm just hoping when 1xbit campaign already ended, there's no campaign will accept negative feedback account anymore. This will make them regret to participate scam campaign and if they're able to join other campaigns, the negative trusts seems to be useless.

If they can sponsor tournaments and matches, signature campaigns are the least of their worries. The ROI seems to be quite decent, based on the number of allegations opened from time to time.

They wont be able to sustain on running their campaign for long if they arent really making revenue but since we are seeing the opposite thing then we could really indeed say that they are really making

sufficient revenue to sustain up in regarding into their marketing and other promotion.Totally that mind boggling considering on whats the reputation they do have specially into this forum.

They are indeed making money despite of those issues and continue on what they are doing.Campaigners arent mostly necessarily to be a player on the company that they
are really that promoting since it wouldnt really be that necessary.

The signature campaign isn't really a big deal to them because their main focus is to earn. The purpose of their campaign is to get advertised on this forum so the negative trust of some of their participants isn't their concern anymore. They don't need to use their payment as betting capital on their site because they're not asked to. I'm sure that participants also have an idea about the trust issues of the said campaign but they're also staying to earn.

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Quote from: UserU on August 25, 2022, 11:39:58 AM

Quote from: Solosanz on August 25, 2022, 10:54:34 AM

I'm just hoping when 1xbit campaign already ended, there's no campaign will accept negative feedback account anymore. This will make them regret to participate scam campaign and if they're able to join other campaigns, the negative trusts seems to be useless.

If they can sponsor tournaments and matches, signature campaigns are the least of their worries. The ROI seems to be quite decent, based on the number of allegations opened from time to time.

They wont be able to sustain on running their campaign for long if they arent really making revenue but since we are seeing the opposite thing then we could really indeed say that they are really making

sufficient revenue to sustain up in regarding into their marketing and other promotion.Totally that mind boggling considering on whats the reputation they do have specially into this forum.

They are indeed making money despite of those issues and continue on what they are doing.Campaigners arent mostly necessarily to be a player on the company that they
are really that promoting since it wouldnt really be that necessary.

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Quote from: Solosanz on August 25, 2022, 10:54:34 AM

I'm just hoping when 1xbit campaign already ended, there's no campaign will accept negative feedback account anymore. This will make them regret to participate scam campaign and if they're able to join other campaigns, the negative trusts seems to be useless.

If they can sponsor tournaments and matches, signature campaigns are the least of their worries. The ROI seems to be quite decent, based on the number of allegations opened from time to time.

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It's really sad that they have to sacrifice their credibility and principle because of 1xbit. It will surely affect even their personal reputation and they will also have a hard time finding trusted and legit campaigns in the future. I don't think the money they're getting from the said campaign is still worth it.

Based on what I know, not all participants doesn't have negative trust that join the campaign before they got negative trust for joining the campaign because some of them already have negative trust and the only thing they can do is to join 1xbit campaign since they are the only campaign that accept participants that has negative trust compared to other campaigns where a participant with negative trust can't join.

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Quote from: arwin100 on August 25, 2022, 07:39:03 AM

Well that's the case if they save their money to use it buying an account here but still it will hard for them to join on any campaigns due to merit and post quality requirements so for sure they might spend a lot of times before they can get a decent campaign here. But most likely for sure they cashout what they earn on that campaign since most provably they think like no tomorrow on that since there accounts have red trust and they grab the opportunity to earn while they can.

Yeah, that's the reason why signature campaigns with Bitcoin payment are only for good and active posters, but maybe they will join a bounty campaign even though there's no guarantee they will get payment and the price of the coin is same like their promise.

I'm just hoping when 1xbit campaign already ended, there's no campaign will accept negative feedback account anymore. This will make them regret to participate scam campaign and if they're able to join other campaigns, the negative trusts seems to be useless.

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Quote from: UserU on August 25, 2022, 03:00:15 AM

Quote from: mak013 on August 25, 2022, 02:53:26 AM

It is so. But there is one moment that makes differs. It is trust. When you make job that you don`t like - it`s not a problem. You change job and continue to work. But with negative trust you can have problems with getting a new job. But if accounts were leveluped before merit system - their owners don`t understand the price of this decision.

They don't really care. Most importantly, the money rolls in.

Assuming the campaign stops paying one day, they could always purchase an alt for another campaign or move on with life or their real job.

Well that's the case if they save their money to use it buying an account here but still it will hard for them to join on any campaigns due to merit and post quality requirements so for sure they might spend a lot of times before they can get a decent campaign here. But most likely for sure they cashout what they earn on that campaign since most provably they think like no tomorrow on that since there accounts have red trust and they grab the opportunity to earn while they can.

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and even if I am on their shoe? knowing how 1xbit doing for their players? I'm afraid that I will ever deposit even a single cent in their site .
most of their participants is practically joining just to earn money and that's all and they even risk their account receiving multiple tags just for the sake of money so how could they ever spend this for scam gambling site.

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