Topic: I have found a long term and strong dice strategy. - page 3. (Read 6220 times)

Well never win in dice game i already follow almost 8 videos in youtube and dailymotion before but never make any good result almost all are the same but sometimes there are some game that can stay long.. with the strategy but in the end still the same you will be lose..
So i think gambling are made only to give entertainment.. so doing this strategy still a good strategy the same as martingale.

imo , the best winning strategy is learning to stop at a certain profits, if you play daily, set a daily goal (realistic based on your bankroll) once achieved stop and withdraw. For me when it comes to gambling ,the so called strategies are more like how you manage your bets, bankroll and knowing when to stop.

The thing is as I said it doesn't matter what % you use, it's pointless and never going to be better than other ''strategies'' like one single bet to not waste time. There was another calculated ''strategy'' by dooglus showing how a single sequence of martingale was almost the best ''strategy'' in terms of odds, it would give you like a 0.1% extra, still obviously not a winning strategy.

if you use 40% you can use a smaller multiplier, and hitting 40% is better than hitting 33%, but playing 40% alone will destroy you. If you look at the odds, you switch when it tells you to.

oh yeah btw i was using d'alambert style bets, not martingale.

The odds are calculated at 49.95% which is what an old dice casino had as odds, it doesn't matter if its lower or higher, the point is to illustrate how using martingale is a waste of time and it's worse than playing a single bet

who said anything about rolling 50%? if you knew as much as you write about odds you will know how to control the odds, with other odds

You don't need better odds and most of the odds are same except for sports betting..
For me if you are greedy and you are not satisfied what you made profit you can be lose in the end so for me gambling is for fun and if you don't treat it as fun high possibility that you can lose a lot in the game..

The whole point of that post was to show that its pointless to make millions of bets and it's in fact even better to make a single bet, you don't waste time, you have better odds and you win/lose the same amount of money

Let's assume you have a bankroll of 100 bitcoin.

Lets up our base bet to 7 satoshi. That makes bet #30 cost 37.58xxx bitcoin. What the hell are the odds of losing a 50/50 bet 30 times?

Let’s do the math. You roll and the chance to lose is 50% (Given house edge your odds are slightly worse than what I am about to illustrate).

So one loss is .5 (50%). Losing a second time is only a 25% chance (.5 * .5 = .25), a 1 in 4 chance (to find that, divide 1 by the decimal, .25). Losing a 3rd time in a row is 1 in 8... .5 * .5 * .5 = .125. So to figure out the odds for losing 30x in a row:

.5 * .5 * .5 * .5 * .5 * .5 * .5 * .5 * .5 * .5 * .5 * .5 * .5 * .5 * .5 * .5 * .5 * .5 * .5 * .5 * .5 * .5 * .5 * .5 * .5 * .5 * .5 * .5 * .5 * .5 = .000000000931, which is, as a percentage (multiply by 100 to get the percentage) .0000000931% chance. And to see that in more easy to understand numbers, the chance of missing a 50/50 bet 30 times in a row is a 1 in 1,073,741,824 chance. One in a billion. One in a BILLION chance of losing 30 times in a row. The price you pay for those odds is winning 7 satoshi on a bet. As I write this, 7 satoshi is valued at 1.58 thousandths of a US penny. So you would need to win 632 times to earn a penny. And you are risking 75 bitcoin, $17,000, to do so (your total losses if you miss 30 rolls in a row).

So, you start betting. Each time you bet, if you win, you net 7 satoshi. If you lose, you keep doubling until you win, and you win 7 satoshi. Keep in mind you're risking 75 bitcoin if you lose. But, what are the chances, it's 1 in a BILLION odds, right?

So you win and win and win, and a few hours later, you're up... what? 9 cents?

You have 75 bitcoin on the line, impossible to lose at 1 in a billion odds. And if you HAVE 75 bitcoin to risk, I'm going to assume you'd like to get more than a few pennies for your time. So let’s say your goal is 5 bitcoin. About 15% of your risk. So let’s run some numbers... you're not getting 7 satoshi per BET, you're getting it per WIN, so it's not 5 divided by .00000007. It's actually somewhere about double that, given the losses that 'waste' bets. The actual math behind that, I'll get into in a moment. But for now, suffice it to say that 10,000 bets nets you about .000335 bitcoin. So to get one whole bitcoin, that would take about 29,771,000 rolls. 29,771,000 / 2 * 7 satoshi =  1.041 bitcoin.

So, therefore, to earn 5 bitcoin, you'd need to make 148,855,000 rolls.

Of those 144.9 million rolls, you have about 74.45 million "cycles". A cycle is you drop the die, and you either win, or you roll until you do win. And that's simple to show: 74.45 million times 7 satoshi is 5.20975 Bitcoin, our target winnings. Make sense? Each individual ROLL does not have a 1 in a billion shot of missing 30 times - that's impossible, a single roll cannot miss 30 times. A cycle of rolls can, a single roll series as an attempt to win can. So we're going to use the number of "wins" or cycles.

1 in a billion odds. What are the chances? When you attempt 74.45 million cycles, or wins, the odds of hitting that 1 in a billion are 1 in 14.42 odds. How? You divide your 74.45 million rolls into your 1 in a billion odds. It comes out to 14.42something. You roll bets for over a week, risking 75 bitcoin to win 5, and reduce your 1 in a billion odds to 
1 in 15 roughly. That is one hell of a time commitment to risk 75 bitcoin to win just 5!

What if we wanted to say screw wasting so much time and bets. Pull up the betting screen. Put in 75 BTC for a bet, and set the % chance to win to 93.412%. Your winnings would be 5.209125 BTC, DAMN close to the 5.20975 we were hoping to win. So we hit roll, and we either win, or lose.

What are the chances of winning at 93.412%? Well that’s simple. 100% - 93.412% = 6.588% we have a 93.412% chance to win 5, and a 6.588% chance to lose 75 bitcoin.

Let’s turn 6.588% into a decimal... we divide by 100. That’s .06588. Anyone want to take a guess as to what 1 divided by .06588 is?

1 / .06588 is 15.17.

Wait. What? If I bet 75 bitcoin at 93.412% odds (1 in 15ish) I can win 5.2 bitcoin - or I can bet 7 satoshi, martingale, doubling, risking a possible loss of 75 bitcoin at a 1 in 14.42 odds? Isn't that funny how math works out? 
Your odds are actually better to make the single roll.

With such amounts of Bitcoins it's much better to invest in casino bankroll. 75 BTCs ~ $150.000,00. Possible to make good percentages of profit every week, maybe 0.3%-1% (most common), what means $450-$1500. No martingale, no effort making thousands or millions of bets to earn 7 satoshis per bet... The risk you take by playing on long term doesn't worth the return you can receive.

I bought the script from HCP, worked well, its risky and you need a big balance.

I decided to modify it, and after 4 days its a very different script. I only use my 1250 satoshi faucet, everytime i restart is with leftover profit or 1250 satoshis.


1. Settings too strong
2. Balance isn't big enough
3. using multiplier
4. Multiplier kills balance
5. Using smaller multiplier
6. Figured out better d'alambert settings
7. rage betting using medium multiplier
8. Using weaker d'lambert settings
9. Got an idea
10. Tweak settings, left running for 2-3 hrs (never busted out) 10,000 profit
11. Tried tweaked settings with multiplier instead (kills balance as usual)
12. Increased bet size (no good)
13. Messing around
14. Accidently bet 99% of balance ( lucky me )
15. Used all of the data i compiled from the odds (every single bit)
" Let it run for 4 to 5 hrs overnight, computer crashed " 18,000 profit the losses have been reduced and so they are easier to recover from
16. Restarted script in morning, crashed down soon after 1hr
17. Messing around
18. Did similar bet in advanced mode on better odds using multipler, crashed down, i might make another script for it.

I know how to use it now, strategys alone are around 60% of a long term strategy, the other 40% you have to work out long term money management and how to recover and make profit next session, e.g. 1 session is 3 small sessions.

You know recently i left to play dice game, Why i left it?
I can judge, only few people play it and make money in dice. Because winning persons will be only 1% gamblers in dice.
Not every one win in dice, than i also realize dice has no strategy, we can't play our strategy wise.
Even we think that we know about powerful and super tricks these all are fail in dice.
We win in dice only, if we are lucky.

True, there is no such thing as a strategy, let alone a long-term strategy in dice games. Dice game is a game that is too random, luck that can give victory. And you're right, he's just lucky and lucky. Gradually he will experience defeat and will realize that the strategy does not apply in the dice game.

I don't think that such thing exist. Long term and strong winning strategy cannot be found in a game of luck. The casino has the house edge which is designed exactly to let the casino win over the long run. You have been just lucky and luck can be turned around after sometime. Run away with your winnings before you lose it all to the house edge of the casino.

Yes I don't believe it either, maybe he's just lucky in some time. moreover he said that the strategy used in the dice game can run in the long run, sounds very unlikely and I think it is no secret no one can win in the dice game.

He's just here bragging his so called "winning strategy". We all know that all gambling strategy really don't work in the long run. Statistically, we would see that the house has an advantage, which is the house edge. This might be small but it's a world of a difference when you look at it when you play an infinite number of games. Which when analyzed you are actually losing on every bet.

This is actually true because the feeling on using your own strategy or settings is more satisfying and not regretful when you do lose on a particular dice game since you will put into your own mind that theres might be wrong on your setting and you will not get easily frustrated unlike on using other so-called settings you did try out but nothing works and just bust up you entire bankroll without the enjoyment you seek.

If this were true why would you share it ? You would keep it to yourself and create accounts all over the place on every site you can and collect profits off of each untill you were rich. I am not so sure why you put so much effort into a post like this unless you are dillusional ?

There is no fix or way to win on a luck based game. A casino would never have a game you could figure out and win. It has to be random .

You probably just had a lucky long streak. It happens.

Playing gambling with own strategy is always right. If we lose or win, we will get one satisfaction. Suppose if we used other strategy and lost our bet that feeling is different. Some people will get frustration because unnecessarily we lose money to believe in others strategy. I will also make my own strategy to play gambling.

That is true anyway, nothing is assured, but you have to play your own way and the confident way, or you are going to lose your bankroll. It's not always going to be constant in the thing that you are going to play on. If there is a bug, then the casino would know.