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hero member
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March 27, 2013, 12:40:30 PM
#87


I hate you.

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I think you could install a couple of quantum doublers and vortex fans and get those "rigs" up to 500 GH/s each pretty easy.

But I love you.
donator
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Gerald Davis
March 27, 2013, 12:26:58 PM
#86
If the price drops below $20 then I will be pulling my hair out (or what hair I have).

Why?  If the exchange rate falls to $20 (or difficulty increases by a factor of 10) why not just imagine up a higher hashrate and make even more "profit"?  I think you could install a couple of quantum doublers and vortex fans and get those "rigs" up to 500 GH/s each pretty easy.
newbie
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March 27, 2013, 12:15:10 PM
#85
Got a bargain on the colo (managed too) since my employer is a good customer of theirs I got setup for a BBQ and beer for the staff who did it next time I am around and I pay about $200.00 per month for both locations.

As far as being pissed goes, It may be a money pit but it is working better than I though.  If the price drops below $20 then I will be pulling my hair out (or what hair I have) .

hero member
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March 27, 2013, 12:06:37 PM
#84
It looks like a shelf of ASIC rigs,  Probably from Avalon.

Easy to buy those Avalons, aren't they?  ASIC chip production is just increasing exponentially with the demand huh?  

About as easy to buy as an Absurdocluster of OverpriChips and a bunch of FAIL safes. But way cheaper.
legendary
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March 27, 2013, 11:39:32 AM
#83
cooling solution is a colocation facility. 

66F to 68F 24/7.



What you're paying for the colo?


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My rigs are a cluster of 4 nodes each and one embedded *BSD licensed controller of my own design.  Each one has 8 8 core cpus, 512GB of RAM and 12 GPU cards with logging and storage done in an encrypted VIA Mini ITX controlling a storage array (so an error won't crash the system by filling up system disks).  The other rig is exactly the same, located in a different location with the same colo company and has hot failover capability with the other machine using something Linux HA heartbeat.  So if one rig fails it takes over the tasks of the other rig as its virtual instances switch tasks (why I needed so much RAM).
...

You better put those "beasts" at work and minimize the losses, here http://www.openstack.org/software/, or just mine some litecoins at the same time http://litecoin.org

If I were in your shoes, I would be more than pissed with the whole thing.
newbie
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March 27, 2013, 10:58:37 AM
#82
But still, the promise of my virtual ASIC chip, as improbable as it is, is still about the same delivery rate as the real ASIC chip makers are doing. 

Hmmm. BTW, what do you think this is?

https://i.imgur.com/oEIjyj8.jpg

Besides boxes of fans and blue lights of course

DROOOOOOOOOL! let me play!
newbie
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March 27, 2013, 10:16:42 AM
#81
cooling solution is a colocation facility. 

66F to 68F 24/7.

newbie
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March 27, 2013, 10:11:20 AM
#80
It looks like a shelf of ASIC rigs,  Probably from Avalon.

Easy to buy those Avalons, aren't they?  ASIC chip production is just increasing exponentially with the demand huh? 
sr. member
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March 27, 2013, 10:11:13 AM
#79
ASIC or not you didn't build ANYTHING.  It isn't that you super rig is pointless or not economical .... it doesn't exist.   You claim to get 59 GH/s out of 12 GPU.  That is a 100% lie.   You made up a stupid lie, got caught, now own up to it.
Did I misread? I thought he said that that rate was between 4 systems. 4x 12GPUs = 48GPUs. My estimates before he posted his rates were based on them all being 7970s. His new rate is possible with them all being this: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131483&Tpk=7990&IsVirtualParent=1

Or similar by another brand. Considering the official 7990 has not been released and the limited quantities of custom designs from other vendors, it is incredible that he was able to get 48 of them.

Also insane that they aren't overheating all to crap, never mind even fitting due to the coolers. What's your solution for that?
legendary
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March 27, 2013, 10:01:36 AM
#78
ASIC or not you didn't build ANYTHING.  It isn't that you super rig is pointless or not economical .... it doesn't exist.   You claim to get 59 GH/s out of 12 GPU.  That is a 100% lie.   You made up a stupid lie, got caught, now own up to it.
You didn't took into consideration the intel eptacores and the various TB of ram. That has to speedup the rig somehow. Not sure of how!
hero member
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March 27, 2013, 10:00:13 AM
#77
But still, the promise of my virtual ASIC chip, as improbable as it is, is still about the same delivery rate as the real ASIC chip makers are doing. 

Hmmm. BTW, what do you think this is?



Besides boxes of fans and blue lights of course
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Gerald Davis
March 27, 2013, 09:58:53 AM
#76
ASIC or not you didn't build ANYTHING.  It isn't that you super rig is pointless or not economical .... it doesn't exist.   You claim to get 59 GH/s out of 12 GPU.  That is a 100% lie.   You made up a stupid lie, got caught, now own up to it.
newbie
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March 27, 2013, 09:56:39 AM
#75
If you go back you will see people telling me how foolish I am to not get an ASIC rig. My point is they barely exist.  They are like trying to find sasquatch on a day where it is too hot to wear an ape suit.

So, yah, a bit of bashing but I had to put up with GPU and cluster bashing so I am sure ASIC and BFL can take my criticisms just fine.

Meanwhile I will just row across the lake while listening to taunts from people who bought a speedboat they don't have yet.

sr. member
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March 27, 2013, 09:52:28 AM
#74
As far as my huge amount of memory, I will need that to run numerous instances.  One thing I am just checking out is the possibility of adding nodes even if I could virtualize an ASIC chip.  They have such low power useage and would take up low CPU and perhaps GPU cycles that if I can virtualize and ASIC instance , then maybe this rig would not be a waste of money.

Now that is comedy gold right there.

Yep, turns out that would be impossible to very hard.  So I have stopped looking into that possibility.

Good. Because you obviously don't know what an ASIC is. You know what virtualizing an ASIC means? It means buying an FPGA.
legendary
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March 27, 2013, 09:51:15 AM
#73
As far as my huge amount of memory, I will need that to run numerous instances.  One thing I am just checking out is the possibility of adding nodes even if I could virtualize an ASIC chip.  They have such low power useage and would take up low CPU and perhaps GPU cycles that if I can virtualize and ASIC instance , then maybe this rig would not be a waste of money.

Now that is comedy gold right there.

Yep, turns out that would be impossible to very hard.  So I have stopped looking into that possibility.

But still, the promise of my virtual ASIC chip, as improbable as it is, is still about the same delivery rate as the real ASIC chip makers are doing.  THAT is comedy gold there, except that real people are getting really ripped off.  I just made a foolish purchase thinking that my knowledge of another field would make me do good in this one and I am not doing too bad. I am not going to clear my initial investment if I keep going as I am going, but others fell for a "Straw to Gold" scheme and while calling me foolish (which I admit has truth to it) they are singing the praises of non-existent hardware that they paid money for.
So, turns out, this is just another BFL bashing thread.  Very clever and entertaining though.  You get the Pinkie Pie award for this week!
newbie
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March 27, 2013, 09:47:10 AM
#72
As far as my huge amount of memory, I will need that to run numerous instances.  One thing I am just checking out is the possibility of adding nodes even if I could virtualize an ASIC chip.  They have such low power useage and would take up low CPU and perhaps GPU cycles that if I can virtualize and ASIC instance , then maybe this rig would not be a waste of money.

Now that is comedy gold right there.

Yep, turns out that would be impossible to very hard.  So I have stopped looking into that possibility.

But still, the promise of my virtual ASIC chip, as improbable as it is, is still about the same delivery rate as the real ASIC chip makers are doing.  THAT is comedy gold there, except that real people are getting really ripped off.  I just made a foolish purchase thinking that my knowledge of another field would make me do good in this one and I am not doing too bad. I am not going to clear my initial investment if I keep going as I am going, but others fell for a "Straw to Gold" scheme and while calling me foolish (which I admit has truth to it) they are singing the praises of non-existent hardware that they paid money for.



legendary
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March 27, 2013, 09:08:15 AM
#71
As far as my huge amount of memory, I will need that to run numerous instances.  One thing I am just checking out is the possibility of adding nodes even if I could virtualize an ASIC chip.  They have such low power useage and would take up low CPU and perhaps GPU cycles that if I can virtualize and ASIC instance , then maybe this rig would not be a waste of money.

Now that is comedy gold right there.
newbie
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March 27, 2013, 08:43:35 AM
#70
You are right about the redundancy part not being useful.  I made what I knew and failed at that part.

I have two 8 core cpus per board at 4 per cluster.  CentOS and many other versions of Linux support 8 CPUs just fine.  Mine is actually small compared to many others I have worked with.

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March 27, 2013, 08:28:58 AM
#69
Not to mention that there isn't any OS that supports more than 8 GPU's native (as i recall!)
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Gerald Davis
March 27, 2013, 08:26:57 AM
#68
To any noob who might be mislead the OP is full of crap.  The numbers simply make no sense.  First of all the fact that he didn't realize that redundancy doesn't matter, nor does high end CPU, nor does massive amounts of ram or storage should be a clue.

Mining is perfectly parallel.  There is no need for inter hasher communication just some very very basic control and management.  A low end sempron is more than enough to run OS & cgminer.

Still that would just mean the (imaginary) rig is just a bad investment.  The OP stated 12 GPU and 59 GH/s.  There is no GPU which can produce ~5GH/s.   A 5970 heavily overclocked can get about 850 MH/s but it isn't going to be stable, cool, or efficient and getting more than 800 MH/s out of 7970 is unlikely.  More realistic 24/7 efficiently clocked GPU are going to get much less. OP didn't build anything but a tall tale.

or TL/DR version:
You could start selling hot air.
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