Topic: I need your ideas (Read 1102 times)

My opinion to a person who make some loss in trading is don't ever go through these things which can ruin a person's life and through the suicide of a one person he is not only affected by the suicide but the family behind him also got affected his all relatives also got affected. I have seen there are many people still they are nearer to me they got too much loss in the trading but still they are enjoying their life even some of them have already sold their houses and they money they got form selling the houses they had already invested it in their trading. But still got loss and they are still happy.

The problem is we should think differently and we should always trade with having cool mind, trading is not one day game as mostly people plays it like gambling and they think trading is also gambling which are completely wrong.

I can understand what exactly you are going through right now as its not a comfortable situation and the banks are not in any position to understand your explanation even if you were to accord them one, but I also want to let you understand that people don't kill themselves just because they went to school and were given assignments that seemed difficult to solve from the question. Remember you are not the first student in that school and you're not the only student who didn't get the answers right on the first attempt.

Just get the formula for the test that life has thrown to you and solve it by applying the formula, your basic assignment now should be to search for the formula just as you would if you were given a complex mathematical question, search everywhere you know you can get the formula and get it solved and also note that there are many more of these kinda of life's assigments that will come up tomorrow and suicide is never and option and has never birthed any solution.

What do you want people to do for you?
If you cant save yourself not even.me can save you from that end. The best adviser is yourself.
Life is full of upa and down, no body is perfect no matter how situation seems to be, suicide is not an option. Many people who are suffering more than you are very much alive and are greatful for life. The people whom are blind,deaf and domb, amputated or dignosed with a cronic deases are very much alive and thanking God for life. What more of you. If people whom has the worst case scenario are encouraging themselves what about you I think you are smart and vibrant young man like you will be thinking of such. Note this, no matter the circumstances surrounding you, don't think suicide is the best option.

Sometimes if you feel that the environment you find yourself is not helping matter, you take a walk, interact with friends go on vacation meet new people and learn new things. I think that will solve a little bit of your problem.

I do not think this is the best forum to ask for help with these kinds of situations, but some people do not have trusted friends in whom they can communicate these matters with (the people on this forum are not the best). But the statistical value of a human life was 7.5 million in 2020 (which is about 15 million today because of hyperinflation). So unless your debt is at least 15 million dollars, you should not consider your debts comparable to your own life in any way.

Also, if you are in debt, then the creditor is responsible for lending to you in the first place. Getting into debt is not a criminal offense, so you cannot be locked up for this. You should not take all the responsibility for your situation since the creditor lost money by lending it to you. Give some of the blame on the creditor, and just make a reasonable effort to pay what you owe.

And there are plenty of people who went into debt for reasons that are dumber than gambling. I was a professor, so I know that many people go deep into debt spending years of their lives obtaining worthless degrees from academic institutions who still refuse to apologize for promoting violence against me, so there are plenty of people in your situation, and there are people in much worse situations.

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D. (Mathematics)

P.S. If everything was fine up until 3 days ago, then you will need to take much more time to access the situation before you perform an irreversible act. Get some rest. Talk to friends, acquaintances, or relatives. And talk to professionals who can help you with debt. And make sure to think things over for a while.

That's wrong, it's wrong to kill yourself just because you're in debt. There are many people like you who also have debts but they are doing their best to pay what they owe.
There are many other ways besides suicide and I don't think suicide is an option. Think about the people you will leave behind, the Lord has a way for you to face all those trials, just face them and work hard, don't give up. You can overcome that too, just believe in yourself always. I'm sure you have a better future waiting for you.

Well, you call it a gamble, what did you expect? Gamble = big risk... You accepted to take big risk probably to win big. So, you took the risk and lost big then you start feeling hopeless and suicidal.
From a spiritual point of view, it's actually very dangerous to take big risk because if you lose your stuff your unseen bubble could burst and you would immediately feel weak, confused, defeated, hopeless, defenseless and start contemplating suicide. Gambling platforms are where many bubbles are burst, better to avoid them, or just use responsible betting platforms that aren't after much of your money and don't encourage you to take big risk... They may be hunting for talents behind the curtain.

By the way, you should mostly be betting for passion and talent rather than for money. Good Betting/Prediction sites are where you could find gifted seers, prophets, etc.


Nice to see you still posting after creating the thread in 2022

Similar to the thoughts that hits my head where I strives and not succeeding, my friends and co. are making it prosperously out there while I am running out of comport and draining off my positive energies and my ability to productiveness.
It weighs me down more because I am hopeful to be my families bread winner and my mom is seriously in needs that I can't even provide a 3% of hers. Time after times I feels worthless and irreverent so I picked suicide would be best commitment because I can't afford to keep watching my mom and little siblings die on essential needs (starvation)  and Improper healthcares(illnesses) and same time can't be boost to life as a man while amidst of the  successfuls .
I am like getting exploding of swallowing my shameful  and inherited wretchedness and the enemies and opponents keep throwing stones at us(I and family) and we keep being defenseless 😔.

Suicide was beat option for me but I thought of being a coward and stupid if done that because my exit to existence would make no better changes but worsen when I thought of the resultant emotional outbreaks that may cause to my family and specifically to my mom of a tendered and fragile heart 😏.

I asked myself... who would atleast stand a bit blockage when the enemies comes to attack my family at my absents?  Who next do I pass the wretched inheritance if I don't stay alive to make the change?
With these reasoning, I was fit to stand, face my fears, I fell and stood again and again til... I was "made whole" being in a great height without getting to the hill yet where unbelievable performance was made a reality.
Now, i and my family lives a royal status and even wishes death doesn't exist because we could at the end of the tunnel dines and wines in-between paradise and the heavens.

Suicidal is never and can never be an option for where there is life is said to be hope.

However, gambling is a tendency to lost on the run of trial to get rich and never an investment as a source of income to getting rich.
It would had been a no negative story telling if you have invested the money on genuinely conventional investments or basically of Bitcoin investments.

It is a done deal already that the hands of time can not be reversed but possibly to be diverted or changed.
So, stay alive for the sake of your loved ones.
Keep grinding striving to make success but gambling should not be an option.

I think this thread should give a hint lession on why newbie investors should start with a tolerable capital rate (amount) because this is at times the correspondent  passage that is hit on the head as a caused of unbearable of lost.

Have you ever thought about the family behind you? Or are you the only one who is living at your home? You didn't have any siblings? Or BTW where were you taught that after losing in gambling you would go for Suicide because all options are dead now? Always make the right decision ending life is not a solution to all these, you must be very careful about the family you have and the children or wife you have. This is just the money if you lose today you will win tomorrow.

Losing is never the ending of life simple I mean this. Just take a step behind this gambling and start to live a happy life if you have small money just invest this money in a small business but don't ever choose to commit Suicide. Where and which friend told you that if you got some loss in gambling?

    In 2021 I lost $450k  in less than a month ( 28 days, )... Trading and some scam... the main problem was lack of time for trading.. what I bought in the morning I sold on loss in the evening ...it's a long story anyway... In my situation, I was lucky because I had activity building my homestead and also, my first child was born in the next month.. This helped me get through that nasty situation...In your situation, things are a bit different because you lost the borrowed money.. even so you can find solutions, selling a property or stuffs which you owned ... And bear in mind.. when you lose, don't try to get that money back quickly, because you will lose all your money ... take a break.

If you wanted to kill yourself, you wouldn't ask questions here... so you're still looking for solutions, that's a good sign. Keep the head up!

Your life is far too important to consider suicide. You have so much to offer & too many people would miss you if you weren’t here any more.

Your life is worth so much more than any gambling debt or money lost. Take some time to digest what’s happened, stand up strong & start to build your life again. This is not a position that is impossible to recover from

Gambling should be the last thing that will make anyone of thinking to borrow money from anywhere to play it. Even in some physical business that the chances of making profit is high it is not still advisable to loan , then to talk about taking a loan to play gambling which can never be predicted if one will win or not. Taking money as loan to play gamble I see it as an irresponsible act, too desperate of having a mindset of winning gambling all the time.

Close your eyes and think these 4 steps carefully, Think what is your true suffering now.

1. The truth of suffering
2. The truth of the cause of suffering
3. The truth of the end of suffering
4. The truth of the path that leads to the end of suffering

These are the four noble truths of the lord buddha. I don't know what your religion is or are you respect other religions, but I always find these 4 as an answer to my problems.
As for the above four noble truths to your life

1. The truth of suffering - Your greed
2. The truth of the cause of suffering - Gambling
3. The truth of the end of suffering - Control your greed
4. The truth of the path that leads to the end of suffering - Get advice from elders, finance company or asset manager

Also, remember this,

- If you suicide now that's mean you are a coward. Because you ran away from problems. You didn't try to solve it, didn't try to find out what you can do?

- If you suicide now that means you are putting your family in a terrible situation. You think that suicide is the only option for you now. But what do you think that your banks or loan sharks will not follow your family? If that happens what will they do? Do they also need to suicide like you?

Hello OP, losing is something we humans hate to accept as part of life, whatever we do we seems to forget that it is either we lose or win. When it comes to gambling I'd never advise anyone to borrow any sum of money to engage themselves in gambling no matter how sure I feel the game is. Is best you use what you have even if it's your whole savings in your account is ok but not someone else's money, just like your case now, you borrowed, used it and lost, who's to blame? You.
I can't really relate a better way of you paying back your dept because you must definitely pay back, with you thinking about commiting suicide, hmm. Is never the best option no matter what, like they say where I come from, as long as there's life there's hope so I urge you to face your challenges and exit suicide from you thoughts. Staying alive is the best option even if it's not for you but for your loved ones.

in some countries maybe you could be thrown in jail for not paying your debts. what if they borrowed money from a loan shark who is threatening to kill them if they don't pay up? generalities all sound well and good but if we don't know their particular situation then i'm not sure how useful they are. offering to help them with their debts, that's a real solution. but of course not a single person here would do that. no one offered publicly anyway.

Suicide is not an option to run away from responsibilities. I understand your situation ,in life there is sometime when we felt that we have lost everything but that is not quite right. Believe in yourself and your abilities .Do hard work and have faith in God .God will you from there where you never thought about it.

If you are planning to commit suicide because you think you will not be able to pay your debts first, that is not a solution to the problem you are facing.

    That's really the effect of having a gambling addiction that when you realize that you've lost your other possessions, it will make you depressed that will push you to commit suicide. The best thing to do is to gradually stop gambling because it doesn't bring you anything good because you can't handle yourself properly and don't know to manage gambling as well.

It's been months since he posted, I pretty much am certain if it was going to happen, it would have by now. People who tend to kill themselves for real usually wouldn't talk about it, those who do, are looking for someone to comfort their pain and a little hope given to the person is enough for them to reconsider.

Having that said, you are too late for that hope and comfort. Make sure you never sign up for suicide hot lines. Lol.

Suicide can never solve anything. You may suffer temporarily but if you are patient and work hard you will surely come out of this place.  Before committing suicide you must think about your family and how they might be in your absence.  Good times and bad times are human life. Meanwhile you have to enjoy such a beautiful life. But when man becomes too desperate he decides to commit suicide. But I will tell you to work hard instead of suicide give yourself time and forget about the bank debt you owe for the time being hopefully you will get suicidal thoughts out of your mind in a few days.

@philipma1957
This can help you get out of bad situations.If you trade or bet again according to his signals then I think you will be successful.

done.

agreed.

I'd vote for you to go ahead and report it to the moderator, I hope OP is fine, otherwise RIP.