Topic: I need your ideas - page 3. (Read 1102 times)

Rather, do not get carried away.  Problem gamblers know that they are going to lose more money, in the same way that a heroin addict knows he is going to end badly if he doesn't quit.


Fentanyl is not the same as either alcohol or gambling but the parallel I am trying to draw is that an ex-alcoholic has the opportunity to drink again in a few minutes, especially if he lives in a city and not in the middle of the mountains. The gambler can also return to gambling in seconds with his cell phone. At the end of the day, the one who recovers knows how to live with it.

disagree. they're not "all over" the internet. alot of websites contain no blatant banner ads to gambling websites. because they don't accept such ads. i would say most websites do not contain gambling ads.

you mean like come to the realization that they are going to just lose more money if they keep gambling?



alcohol and gambling are not the same.

Gambling ads are all over the internet, not only in this forum. In the end, the recovering person has to be able to view those ads in an emotionally neutral way and not gamble again, just as a recovering alcoholic cannot lock himself in a basement and not come out again so as not to see opportunities to buy alcohol. There are opportunities to drink alcohol everywhere, just as there are opportunities to gamble, and you have to know how to live with that without falling back into it.

If you have a gambling addiction or problem, this site may not be the best place to hang out as they will show you banner ads that promote gambling websites. Truth.

yeah you can go sparta and not go athens

but the truth is both ways are wrong.

the biggest issue how to separate people and get rid of the bad seeds correctly.


basically we as humans have been pretty bad at doing this.

very likely we will continue to be this way for the near future and middle future and far future.

it is likely hard wired in us to not be able to sort the troubled ones out and help or get rid of them.

ie Charley Manson did not need to spend decades in a prison a ten cent bullet could have saved us some money.

I find him to be a good example of failing to rid ourselves of anchors or rocks 🪨 so to speak.

As for the op I can tell him the last bet I made was in July of 1990 the last illegal drug I took was in Jan of 1991 and the last tobacco I used was on Feb 29th 1996.

And the only person I have been with intimately since 1985 is my wife.

And it has been a very good time for me far better then my partying and gambling years from 1972 to early 1985.

All because i got Athens treatment for my fucked up behavior.

I know lots of people treated “easy” with compassion and their failure rate was over 50%



Personally I would of failed with hard treatment. But I can tell you my bro-in-law got easy treatment much like me and is a spectacular failure. He will continue to be a mess as he has past the point of no return.

He gave himself dementia due to terrible diet and will not recover.

Hopefully you will find a way out of this and will have learned to change your ways. If not.... Just another case of Darwin at work...

There is a serious problem what the OP is telling us, and that is that the availability to gamble 24 hours a day from your mobile has increased the potential problems associated with it. Add to that the fact that today many banks give you instant loans from your mobile as well and you have the perfect combination for a disaster.

OP, take a cue from philipma1957. You can get out of any serious situation like the one you are in. Just take advantage of having hit rock bottom as motivation to look for a better future.

I don't think anyone here has not made mistakes that are more than yours but the truth is committing suicide is not the best option. It has never solved anything and will not start now.

 Imagine you have nine lives. So for every mistake, you contemplate suicide? You can't run from a mistake because you'd always come back to it, but rather learn from it, then take positive steps to changing it instead of ending your life. That's the greatest gamble of which some people don't come out winners.

Mate this you statement is confusing, The statement indirectly saying that he should commit suicide if the bank authority or the government leaders disturb or came to arrest him or his or her family people. That is if the him or his family people could not pay the debt indirectly he should commit suicide. suicide is not the best option, according to a saying "when there is life, there is hope", he still have hope to pay the debt. It is better for him to loss his property then losing his life. When the bank people come for the debt he should give his properties to settle the debt. Gambling is a game of luck and good predictions, he should should not use big money to play bet again but small amount to play games and win small and big to settle the debt and collect his things back. Or he should use the new wins to start new life. {If there is life, there is hope}. First of all, save your life then think a positive way forward.

Thinking suicide as an option is the dumbest idea I've ever heard, this doesn't sound like the best way to go about it. Normally people do own debt and pay it off in due time regardless of how they owned them. I only see it as the irony of life. Believe me, no matter the situation you find yourself in, someone else's own is worse. Know this and know peace ✌️.

- Don't commit suicide. You might wind up paying eternally for the suicide in the resurrection.


- Don't commit suicide until you find out if the banks or government will come after your family to make them pay the debt.


- Find people you can trust, or if you are in the right country, form a trust or corporation without your name on any of it - let a relative control it - and place all your property that you own with these people or artificial entities. The idea is to get it out of your ownership so that the bank can't take it for the debt.

Find out how long you have to wait, by law, until the new owner can't be attacked because the bank might think you are simply hiding your property. In the US it's 2 years. Simply make payments for that long, but after that, cancel your debt. If you don't go to prison - which you won't in many countries - live off funds you request from people who are running what used to be your property.


- Often, if you go to court over the money, and the bank wins the judgement, depending on what you signed in court (don't sign anything if you can help it), make the statement that you can only afford to pay off a dollar a day. The bank may have to accept this, but don't fail to ever make at least this payment.


- Don't gamble in the future. For example, some people call buying stocks and bonds like it is taking a chance... like it is gambling. But it isn't a gamble if you have looked into past performance and check out dividends. After all, you could trip on the throw rug in your bedroom, and hit your head on the table and break your neck and die. Life is always at least a little bit of a gamble. Do your due diligence, both regarding the rug, and regarding investing.

Let me sound this loud and clear; when you try to make gambling as a source of loss recovery and source of income you'll rather end up becoming the source of income to others.
While I say this I'll also advise you keep faith and hope alive go out there and source for a legit source of income that would pay your debt for it's not the end up of life but rather life for you has just begun.

Even countries owe debts not talk of an individual. So calm down and be useful.

The bottom line is, never see gambling as a source of living!

You took a loan from banks, and you will bed to pay them but there is no need for suicide. Normally people will just have to find a way to make money. My fallback if I have a loan to pay I think will be driving a taxi which I could avoid while also making money to pay them later. This could be a choice for you too.

Just face the problem dude, suicide is not a good escape. Just be a man and work it out with them. I don't think they will jail you, that won't be beneficial for them.

Suicide is a huge gamble.

The down sides of doing it are terrible.

Hell maybe.
worse is nothing.
or how bout you realize you close the loop on your life on a deadbeat song and are told you will repeat your life over and over and over again always ending with the same stupid move of suicide.

I am a compulsive gambler.
I did two intentional drug overdoses trying to kill myself.
I also suffered with acute psychosis along with ptsd for 10 years.  I had a bad life style age 15-28

But I quit gambling.
stopped using drugs
met a girl married her in 1986.
still with her now in 2022.

So if my life is like a vinyl record after some shitty songs the rest are much better.
So you can help yourself. And make some good music 🎼

vs “they are off you lose” from a very old abbott and costello show.

Try to find a gamblers anonymous group near you .

They helped me get well.

I would wish you good luck but you do not need good luck. You need to stop gambling.

One thing is to stop, that's why you have self exclusion. Do not play on casino's that don't have that.

Second step is somehow forget for 1-2 months about the debt even if it might hurt your credit score (if they are too high), you may ask the banks about a delay.

Third step work harder on recovering, maybe this shall be a bigger step for your status to be increased and make more money after this, or continue what you used to do and work for the debt.

DO NOT GAMBLE TO RECOVER YOUR LOSS! You won't!

suicide is not the best way to solve the debt. I know the reason why you are writing here. ok. let me narrate brief story for you to understand your own reason.

A man wanted to killed himself so he took a robe and went into the forest. reaching the forest, he hanged the robe a big tree for him to die fast. After tieing robe on a branch of the big tree, he took the remaining part of the robe to wrapped his neck, and in the process of wrapping the robe on his neck, he heard a gunshot which was very close to him and it was a hunter killing an animal in the forest. This man removed the robe from his neck and ran away. And came back to the town. What am I trying to say. If you really want to commit suicide you won't come here  to tell us that. You came here to tell us because you don't want to die. So I will advice you not to kill yourself although killing yourself is not in your mind. The best way to do it, it is to do minor works to pay your debt gradually till you see a big job to clear all. The Lord is your strength.

Hi everyone. Im very upset while im writing this lines. Everything begun 2 months ago. I was started to playing gamble. Everything was okey before 3 days ago. But i lost my everything in 3 days and i got ambitious. I borrowed money from banks and i lost all of them. I don't think I could pay the money. Im thinking the suicide. I need your ideas.

Best Regards,
Heibo