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legendary
Activity: 1726
Merit: 1018
April 17, 2015, 10:26:08 AM
So are we saying the chain we want to keep is not the one that the explorer is on now?

Is block expl lag?
I think that we are now lost current workable chain.

We probably need to get the explorer on the same page as the rest of us in order to not fork away from it.Im waiting instruction from MinerFTW and ill pm Cryptoplorer and get him to implement the change if we are certain this is the fix  . I think the explorer is going to have same issue we are if he doesnt connect to right nodes.. Or are using old wallet..

Best Regards
d57heinz

This^

As long as the explorer(s) and exchanges do not stake they shouldn't fork (until the main forking problem is fixed).  We should let them all know that.  I can't see any reason for the explorer to stake but the exchanges might be.

EDIT: The explorer at cryptoplorer is all jacked now. Hopefully that means they are updating to new wallet on other chain...

EDIT 2: I put in a support ticket at bittrex.  Not sure if there is a better way to inform them.
full member
Activity: 686
Merit: 102
April 17, 2015, 10:22:36 AM
Ok, now I have all information and can explain everything here. Sorry for my bad English if you cannot understand what I mean.

At first, after block 40k, everything went wrong because of each wallet generated wrong chain itself and does not keep up with explorer and network -> many version of chain.

Few days after, Dev blinked in (very lazy dev, I am blamming you) and sync his checkpoint server with explorer (via my wallet). He also released fix version of wallet about the checkpoint. Then PoS was working smoothly for 1-2 hours til dev's crappy checkpoint server down again while he blinked out.

Today, dev gives MinerFTW checkpoint privatekey. The checkpoint server is stayed with MinerFTW and is working smoothly now and so on (will be). But fork again after few try because of many obsolete, wrong chain nodes are still out there, keeping "poising" each other.

Finally, MinerFTW found out, if we put the entry listen=0 to .conf file, the wallet connects to correct nodes only. To fix everything, follow my steps bellow:

Step 1: Download new wallet at first post

Step 2: Clean %appdata%\roamming\LiteDoge except wallet.dat (DO NOT DELETE WALLET.DAT IN ANY CASE)

Step 3: Create litedoge.conf and add bellow entries
Quote
addnode=91.121.6.19
addnode=93.157.4.11
listen=0

Step 4: Run wallet and wait for synced up (should have 2 connections)

Step 5: Unlock wallet to begin stake

Good luck everyone!

I can confirm everything is working smooth after all. Current explorer is on wrong chain with Checkpoint Server (the master node). That why MinerFTW created bellow temporary block explorer til the main explorer is fixed.
http://www.sooncoin.com/litedogeex/block_crawler.php

Since, we have to do
1. Tell the explorer at cryptoplorer.com:3011 update fixed wallet and re-sync with master node (d57heinz, can you do it?)
2. Contact the exchangers (Bittrex, C-Cex, Yobit,...) to update fixed wallet and re-sync with master node (can someone do it because my English is so bad)
full member
Activity: 686
Merit: 102
April 17, 2015, 10:11:37 AM
Is block expl lag?
I think that we are now lost current workable chain.

We probably need to get the explorer on the same page as the rest of us in order to not fork away from it.Im waiting instruction from MinerFTW and ill pm Cryptoplorer and get him to implement the change if we are certain this is the fix  . I think the explorer is going to have same issue we are if he doesnt connect to right nodes.. Or are using old wallet..

Best Regards
d57heinz

I don't think so, d57heinz. The explorer is deamon service only, it does not stake then it should be right chain. The wallet fork issue only occurs when we stake.

I quote what I sent to dev my investigation and suggesstion

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I think the wallet fork issue after block 40k is still around. I've faced 2 times forks after checkpoint server running well on MinerFTW's vps. It seems smoother but it is still out there.

Once wallet fork occurs, there is no chance to get sync again automatically from checkpoint server and master nodes, it will continue wrong chain and so on. Then I have to re-sync from beginning.

Before that, blocks < 40k, it was different (if a block generated but another got it first, it will be orphaned and continue sync correctly).

Please pay attention to it, I am pretty sure it happened. Please do improve the wallet.
im tell that yersterday too but it's a spam.

I recall my words, I agree explorer is on wrong chain now. Because of MinerFTW's checkpoint server is working well and gave correct chain.

Here is a temporary block explorer check MinerFTW made by follow the checkpoint server
http://www.sooncoin.com/litedogeex/block_crawler.php
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
April 17, 2015, 09:44:05 AM
Hello community,

I did my own investigation. In my opinion, the reason so many forks is an error somewhere on the border of calculating the fees, creating a new block and calculating POS rewards  - or somewhere in this area.
This error causes that we have a situation where each wallet is a fork just shortly after starting pos'ing - and is not able to return to a proper chain, even if it detects that it is in the fork.
I developed a patch that allows to return to a proper chain - but it is ugly, because it does not remove the root cause of a fork. It only allows to follow a chain of block explorer (POS also works correctly).
I do not have time to work on a patch over the weekend, but on Monday I will start work on the original problem ( which I mentioned above) - if someone else by that time will not solve this problem.

Regards,

PS: I wrote this message using google translator.

you mean the return 0 i think?
legendary
Activity: 1014
Merit: 1002
Quel marth Melloneamin
April 17, 2015, 09:23:08 AM
Hello community,

I did my own investigation. In my opinion, the reason so many forks is an error somewhere on the border of calculating the fees, creating a new block and calculating POS rewards  - or somewhere in this area.
This error causes that we have a situation where each wallet is a fork just shortly after starting pos'ing - and is not able to return to a proper chain, even if it detects that it is in the fork.
I developed a patch that allows to return to a proper chain - but it is ugly, because it does not remove the root cause of a fork. It only allows to follow a chain of block explorer (POS also works correctly).
I do not have time to work on a patch over the weekend, but on Monday I will start work on the original problem ( which I mentioned above) - if someone else by that time will not solve this problem.

Regards,

PS: I wrote this message using google translator.
+1
legendary
Activity: 1014
Merit: 1002
Quel marth Melloneamin
April 17, 2015, 09:17:46 AM
Is block expl lag?
I think that we are now lost current workable chain.

We probably need to get the explorer on the same page as the rest of us in order to not fork away from it.Im waiting instruction from MinerFTW and ill pm Cryptoplorer and get him to implement the change if we are certain this is the fix  . I think the explorer is going to have same issue we are if he doesnt connect to right nodes.. Or are using old wallet..

Best Regards
d57heinz

I don't think so, d57heinz. The explorer is deamon service only, it does not stake then it should be right chain. The wallet fork issue only occurs when we stake.

I quote what I sent to dev my investigation and suggesstion

Quote
I think the wallet fork issue after block 40k is still around. I've faced 2 times forks after checkpoint server running well on MinerFTW's vps. It seems smoother but it is still out there.

Once wallet fork occurs, there is no chance to get sync again automatically from checkpoint server and master nodes, it will continue wrong chain and so on. Then I have to re-sync from beginning.

Before that, blocks < 40k, it was different (if a block generated but another got it first, it will be orphaned and continue sync correctly).

Please pay attention to it, I am pretty sure it happened. Please do improve the wallet.
im tell that yersterday too but it's a spam.
newbie
Activity: 4
Merit: 0
April 17, 2015, 09:16:28 AM
Hello community,

I did my own investigation. In my opinion, the reason so many forks is an error somewhere on the border of calculating the fees, creating a new block and calculating POS rewards  - or somewhere in this area.
This error causes that we have a situation where each wallet is a fork just shortly after starting pos'ing - and is not able to return to a proper chain, even if it detects that it is in the fork.
I developed a patch that allows to return to a proper chain - but it is ugly, because it does not remove the root cause of a fork. It only allows to follow a chain of block explorer (POS also works correctly).
I do not have time to work on a patch over the weekend, but on Monday I will start work on the original problem ( which I mentioned above) - if someone else by that time will not solve this problem.

Regards,

PS: I wrote this message using google translator.
legendary
Activity: 1014
Merit: 1002
Quel marth Melloneamin
April 17, 2015, 09:15:34 AM
Is block expl lag?
I think that we are now lost current workable chain.

We probably need to get the explorer on the same page as the rest of us in order to not fork away from it.Im waiting instruction from MinerFTW and ill pm Cryptoplorer and get him to implement the change if we are certain this is the fix  . I think the explorer is going to have same issue we are if he doesnt connect to right nodes.. Or are using old wallet..

Best Regards
d57heinz
If it's using wrong chain and all here using right,why on right chain supply more coins that can be getting on current block?
full member
Activity: 686
Merit: 102
April 17, 2015, 09:10:51 AM
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legendary
Activity: 1014
Merit: 1002
Quel marth Melloneamin
April 17, 2015, 09:10:25 AM
Is block expl lag?
I think that we are now lost current workable chain.

you "think".....
hmmmm....
I like you, you are optimistic!
Lol if it's not fixed on that moment is would be hard only to fix it without relaunch with every new block and all around losts time and money. xPooky has a workable much more strong and professional fix but community make their choice. Ok let's look and aploud now. If here asked simple question to guy who are make a "fix" and ask Dev to help return back balance with around 2 BTC because it's corrupt on fork chain,that very simple to fix its spamming here lol,that coin really dead.  But I'm need to back up my balance. Dev you are not give any advice about. How we are would be fix that issue? Your fix wallet not have same transaction with my corrupt wallet.dat it's not empty but have errors in database files.
legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1109
Graphic Design & Translation - BTC accepted here!
April 17, 2015, 09:05:32 AM
guys, so far i had no problem since resyncing. wallet looks stable to me?? indeed it might be the xplorer misbehaving now...
legendary
Activity: 1453
Merit: 1011
Bitcoin Talks Bullshit Walks
April 17, 2015, 08:56:05 AM
Is block expl lag?
I think that we are now lost current workable chain.

We probably need to get the explorer on the same page as the rest of us in order to not fork away from it.Im waiting instruction from MinerFTW and ill pm Cryptoplorer and get him to implement the change if we are certain this is the fix  . I think the explorer is going to have same issue we are if he doesnt connect to right nodes.. Or are using old wallet..

Best Regards
d57heinz
sr. member
Activity: 426
Merit: 250
April 17, 2015, 08:39:43 AM
Is block expl lag?
I think that we are now lost current workable chain.

you "think".....
hmmmm....
I like you, you are optimistic!
legendary
Activity: 1014
Merit: 1002
Quel marth Melloneamin
April 17, 2015, 07:42:42 AM
Is block expl lag?
I think that we are now lost current workable chain.
legendary
Activity: 1014
Merit: 1002
Quel marth Melloneamin
April 17, 2015, 07:40:48 AM
now 44218?

Look in your rpc console. Set command "getinfo" how much total coins supllied it's show?



"blocks" : 44245,
"timeoffset" : 0,
"moneysupply" : 2820536355.27500010,
"connections" : 2,

cryptoplorer sas money supply is 2769731855.90949774

ehmm... something smells bad here

My wallet on same chain since start that issues. Thats why im asked questions about that kind of fork and not get answers until that moment only aggressive crying lol.
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1000
April 17, 2015, 07:20:47 AM
I was synced when I went to bed last night. Woke up and forked again. About 100 blocks behind.

I had just the 2 nodes and the listen=0 in the config.

Now the wallet is out of sync and will not resync. Says I have 2 active connections as it should but not moving at all.
Install new wallet. Link in OP.Or you are use fix wallet release now?

Wallet from OP.

EDIT: It's ok though. I am done until there is a fix. I have deleted and resynced this thing way too many times.

I'll keep an eye on the thread though.
sr. member
Activity: 426
Merit: 250
April 17, 2015, 06:52:34 AM
now 44218?

Look in your rpc console. Set command "getinfo" how much total coins supllied it's show?



"blocks" : 44245,
"timeoffset" : 0,
"moneysupply" : 2820536355.27500010,
"connections" : 2,

cryptoplorer sas money supply is 2769731855.90949774

ehmm... something smells bad here
member
Activity: 62
Merit: 10
April 17, 2015, 06:49:05 AM
Is block expl lag?
legendary
Activity: 1014
Merit: 1002
Quel marth Melloneamin
April 17, 2015, 06:27:03 AM
now 44218?

Look in your rpc console. Set command "getinfo" how much total coins supllied it's show?
legendary
Activity: 1014
Merit: 1002
Quel marth Melloneamin
April 17, 2015, 06:23:06 AM
I was synced when I went to bed last night. Woke up and forked again. About 100 blocks behind.

I had just the 2 nodes and the listen=0 in the config.

Now the wallet is out of sync and will not resync. Says I have 2 active connections as it should but not moving at all.
Install new wallet. Link in OP.Or you are use fix wallet release now?
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