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Quote from: Ziskinberg on December 30, 2024, 11:50:40 AM

When I saw this thread and replied to it, I realized that the crash game could be similar to the cash-out option in sports betting, as we end the bet early to secure a profit, even though there’s a chance to earn more. This often leads to regret when we see that it could have delivered a bigger profit. Do you think there’s a similarity in any sense?

There is a HUGE difference that must take in count... you cant win a crash game. it will ends ALWAYS in a loss = it will crash .
Meanwhile with cashout you can opt out also a profitable bet!
Another difference, you can't play crash game during the game. But only at start. This means that cashout option is always adaptable in a game sport...and you can choose when and what to bet... Roll Eyes

it means you can have totally control on what you're doing...

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on December 30, 2024, 11:50:40 AM

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Just the process of you being able to leave/bail out in the middle. Other than that, there's no similarity whatsoever really. Just the duration between the two is more than enough to make the difference between the two glaringly obvious imo. Like Basketball matches last well above 1 hour, while a crash lasts on average maybe less than a minute at most for the most part?

And there's also the fact that in sports, you can at least determine the reason "why" you should cash out. Crash? You just cash out based on guts. Yeah I guess the feeling of loss when you cash out early is the same, but in essence the reason why you did so isn't exactly the same.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on December 30, 2024, 11:50:40 AM

I realized that the crash game could be similar to the cash-out option in sports betting, as we end the bet early to secure a profit, even though there’s a chance to earn more. This often leads to regret when we see that it could have delivered a bigger profit. Do you think there’s a similarity in any sense?

@OP, I don't know if you read this topic "Understanding the cash-out option" by stompix, you will understand the things you need to know about sportbook cash out. In sports cash out, you could get a higher amount from the potential winning amount after some bets has played out successfully and you could also cash out a less amount from the amount that was staked. In crash game, as the bird keeps flying and the casino keeps multiplying your staked amount, you could decide to stop it and take what you have got, I think is just a little similar with the sportbook.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on December 30, 2024, 11:50:40 AM

Do you think there’s a similarity in any sense?

The only similarity ^{which I see} is the potential regret but in ^{my view} the latter is the feeling which must be suppressed by every gambler otherwise one can reach the absurd length and lament ^{for example} on the low price set at the crash game or in sport gambling even when his attempt resulted in win. Every outcome in the crash game should be considered from the positive side.

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When you decide to cash out, it is either immediately when you are about to lose, a person is definitely doing this to recover his money. If your favorite team is performing well and moving towards victory, then you will never cash out, but whenever your favorite team is losing, the amount of cash out changes, the match can have any result at any time, so the cash out changes based on the performance alone. Because those who can come out safe may recover some money and those who cannot come out face losses.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on December 30, 2024, 11:50:40 AM

When I saw this thread and replied to it, I realized that the crash game could be similar to the cash-out option in sports betting, as we end the bet early to secure a profit, even though there’s a chance to earn more. This often leads to regret when we see that it could have delivered a bigger profit. Do you think there’s a similarity in any sense?

I literally do not see any similarities between these two phenomenon (i.e Cash-Out and Crash game). Because just as cash-out option is usually a product of the outcome of a successful progressive predicted gaming event, whereby the more the games you predicted played according, the more your Cash-Out amount is likely to increase the more. Whereas, Crash game on the other hand is an automated game whose outcome is roughly a product of random algorithms. Hence, while the influence on sport Cash-Out is likely to be both skilled and luck, the influence on Crash game is solely based on Luck.

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I use the cash out option all the time, best deal ever to me because I often have to leave a game early and obviously scores can change the team ahead can still lose. However I would not really relate that to crash game, I think sports betting is way more regular even I dont want to say its easier exactly.

They are both great games but the cash out deal is a game changer to that whole section, not having that would stop some bets because time constraints etc.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on December 30, 2024, 11:50:40 AM

When I saw this thread and replied to it, I realized that the crash game could be similar to the cash-out option in sports betting, as we end the bet early to secure a profit, even though there’s a chance to earn more. This often leads to regret when we see that it could have delivered a bigger profit. Do you think there’s a similarity in any sense?

How do we classify crash game to cash out option ? Well, if you think they are similar to me they are dissimilar because crash doesn't work as cash out option neither did cash out option work or function as crash game.

From most of the information I read on gambling section here cash out option is never an option to cash out a game when a game is running or when a game is about to end maybe remaining about two or three games to finish running. Cash out option is an option given to players I mean bettors to make correction on their existing game maybe if they don't trust the game the place bet on they can easily cash out the found used to stake the game, but we all sees it's on the reverse.

Though it's not also bad using it that way but the right option has been said, I also experienced it as well. Few days ago I was booking games and I made a mistake went and to choose market that wouldn't favor me, after I have already stake the game all I did was to cash out full amount I used to stake to game and have a readjustment on the match and luckily I won.

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Quote from: Porfirii on December 30, 2024, 02:55:53 PM

Quote from: Raflesia on December 30, 2024, 02:43:18 PM

Actually, if you look further, the scheme is a bit similar where all decisions are ultimately in our own hands whether to continue to the end or stop halfway.

And, if you look even further, all games of chance relay in the same principle: the higher the risk, the higher the potential profit. On the other hand, it is no different from investments, where the higher returns are often linked to higher risks (like in venture capital).

So, if you look for similarities, you'll find out that this is not something specific between cashing out early in sports and in crash games, but common in all random-based disciplines. The difference is that in some of them you can't finish early. But we could make the analogy even with Bitcoin: hodl forever and risk a decline with no future recovery, or secure profits by selling when the price is good enough?

It's just that I don't want to equate the aspects related to investing with gambling because for me it can't be equated so I will skip this part because there will definitely be no agreement because for me gambling and investing are different and opposite things.

No for the soccer problem sometimes there is a certainty especially when the bet we place is certain to get a profit according to the odds such as when the club we support is comfortably ahead and definitely not overtaken then the choice is clear to leave the bet until the end, different from the crash because in the end the crash is uncertain and we don't know where the numbers stop so even though there are similarities there are still some things that make a difference in the end so this will only be the same in general in gambling but when talking more specifically the difference will be seen.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on December 30, 2024, 11:50:40 AM

When I saw this thread and replied to it, I realized that the crash game could be similar to the cash-out option in sports betting, as we end the bet early to secure a profit, even though there’s a chance to earn more. This often leads to regret when we see that it could have delivered a bigger profit. Do you think there’s a similarity in any sense?

There is a slight similarity, though I would not go as far as saying both of them are the same... within a crash game you have no idea when the plane or the number will crash and you are being guided only by your sense or intuition it gut feeling, on whether you are doing the right thing by cashing out at certain point of the session. On the other hand, when we talk about cashing out earlier in a sport betting session, you are not alone and being guided by your gut feeling, there is also the factor on whether how much you know the teams which are participating in the match and your own statistical analysis on the possible results of the match, which does not have anything to do with crash, no analysis is valid in crash or similar gambling games.

There is where one can see the difference between gambling and betting, in my opinion.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on December 30, 2024, 11:50:40 AM

When I saw this thread and replied to it, I realized that the crash game could be similar to the cash-out option in sports betting, as we end the bet early to secure a profit, even though there’s a chance to earn more. This often leads to regret when we see that it could have delivered a bigger profit. Do you think there’s a similarity in any sense?

This is a good comparation, both games have somethin in comon the fact that the bettor can walk away ay anytime with a flower profit.

But I think crash is better because there users can case bigger multipliers, in crash you can chase a x10,000 if you want while that in sports is almost impossible

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Quote from: $crypto$ on December 30, 2024, 12:39:17 PM

Yes of course there is a difference in cashouts in crash and Sportsbook games.
Crash games do have to cashout at the beginning to secure your winnings, there is no waiting at the end because the rocket is definitely falling, so as much as possible can cashout at the beginning if you think the multiplier is enough.

Yes there is a huge difference between the two because in sports games the cash out is only available when the regulators of the site knows that you stand a chance to win those games but when the gambler selected the wrong game that we can naturally see that is impossible to win they will lock the cash out but as for crash games it work different because their cash out is always there for the gambler to utilize so is not something they have to wait before is visible for them, though I think it would have been the same as the sports cash out but the gaming time is what makes it different because crash games are mostly second or minute game so cash out needs to be available all the time unlike sports that only open if for instance the six game you played two or three has gotten in.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on December 30, 2024, 11:50:40 AM

Do you think there’s a similarity in any sense?

Isn't it true that in the crash game you have a target to gain profit? For example 2x and as long as it is achieved then you reach the profit target. But what is unfortunate is that 2x has been fulfilled but still not satisfied because the rocket continues to rise to 10x, 20x 30x, even up to 100x making you regret, dissatisfied and in essence greedy. The mistake lies in you who do not return to the first rule that after setting CashOut means no need to regret.

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Somehow, it's the same. It's like a separate bet. So it could either be right or wrong in the end. But in the case of early cash-out to secure a profit, at least it's just a choice of either small profit or big profit. There may still be regret in the end for taking a small profit, but at least you've got a profit. The bigger problem is when you opt for early cash-out with a loss because you think your bet would lose. If this kind of cash-out proves to be wrong in the end, the regret is far more bitter.

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Quote from: coin-investor on December 31, 2024, 05:45:26 AM

Crash game is time-based; you have to decide quickly. There's no analysis to get involved with; I lose a lot of money because I was seconds late. That's the difference; the similarity is there is an element of greed involved.
I have a harder time deciding on crash game than sports betting because it was so quick that you must decide before the start of the game but sometimes greed overtakes my resolution Cry

this is where I usually lose.

I completely stayed away from this game, even though I gambled just for fun but I really didn't enjoy the Crash Game.
This game is more taxing on my mind and mentality when I don't stop it in time.
There are more defeats happening and even though some wins are gained in the end will just come back and it happened to me.

It is better to play games such as Slots or other card games that can be enjoyed more.
The level of greed with game crashes is very high and makes one become more frustrated.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on December 30, 2024, 11:50:40 AM

When I saw this thread and replied to it, I realized that the crash game could be similar to the cash-out option in sports betting, as we end the bet early to secure a profit, even though there’s a chance to earn more. This often leads to regret when we see that it could have delivered a bigger profit. Do you think there’s a similarity in any sense?

Crash game is time-based; you have to decide quickly. There's no analysis to get involved with; I lose a lot of money because I was seconds late. That's the difference; the similarity is there is an element of greed involved.
I have a harder time deciding on crash game than sports betting because it was so quick that you must decide before the start of the game but sometimes greed overtakes my resolution Cry

this is where I usually lose.

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If we're talking in games, crash is FPS based games while cash out in betting is turn based games.

Although I understand what your logic why cash out option is similar to crash game, but it's different because in sports you can win the highest possible win without need to cash out, unlike in crash game, you have to cash out even though you've hit the highest possible win.

Quote from: Fortify on December 30, 2024, 03:43:55 PM

Like every other casino game out there, they are built on engineered algorithms that are designed to be profitable for the casino only - the player might take short term wins but will never win long term. =

It's same to sports betting, they take commission from gamblers who bets and they earn more than what the gamblers lose than the total amount of gamblers who won.

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I realized cash-out option in sports is similar to a crash game... Well, in my opinion, that is true I mean is just similar to a crash game because in the crash game, you cash out before the plane or dragon or whatever it is touches the ground, and along the way, you can cash out whenever it is.

Tho everyone talk about the early cash out and I saw this in positive way, because you can choose cash out early rather crying later IMO

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Going by OP observations, i will first reply by saying there is quite some differences, in sports, you will discover the similarity with that of the crash games being almost same in terms of the odd, cashing out and the specific game we are playing and its features applicable, this same thing make it more of a similarity on other games we are playing in gambling because they all often share one or two similarities together, even the overall games differences are there including the playing mode and strategies, we must not misunderstood them together with each other being the same.

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It can be read that way in some context but there are quite some differences, in crash game you can cash out of the game any time you want as long as the multiplier has not crashed yet while in the sport betting cash out option you don't have always the option to cash out the money even if you have won 6 out of 13 games for example which in theory should entitle you to that withdraw option. That is the main difference, the other difference is that in sport betting you have an approximate idea of your percentage chance to win the ticket, something totally different compared to crash game where the multiplier can crash anytime without notifying you at all. You can also watch some games live in order to know what is happening while in crash you cannot do anything as it is totally random.

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