Topic: I sincerely apologize to everyone - page 2. (Read 1148 times)

I have already requested to delete it. I guess my mind isn't careful enough. It's on me.

I am not perfect but believing about room of improvement. Mistakes like this happens okay? I only try thinking about some ideas, but I guess I'm not ready yet.

Thank you and I apologize for this matter. I don't expect anyone to believe me anymore. I'm just trying to do something, but I believe mistakes like this would only teach me lessons. I'm trying okay, and I accept my wrongdoings.

It's like me being a student who failed and makes mistakes many times but continue to grow and learn. I know I'm not the only one here who makes mistakes like this, but I don't want to compare myself to them who just keep doing the same mistake and not heeding the warning.

I wanna move on and continue this journey to be better. It's not easy for me, but I want to be better day by day no matter how many roadblocks I have faced. I offer no excuses for myself.

I am thankful for you guys for being real and straightforward towards me, even if it hurts. Being disciplined is something that I really need and I can tolerate that, and I am thankful for the admins, mods and the community for doing this to me. I really do, I mean it motivates me once more to be better.

Because for me, it shows you guys really cared about my behavior and I am so thankful. I am committed to take my journey day by day in becoming better and better.

Happy Lunar New Year to all!

Something is totally wrong around here!

A few weeks ago a guy came to meta to brag how he got ranked up, and how he earned merit, giving advice and thanking members, turn out he was a plagiarist and ban evader. Now, cheezcarls came and started with another "mea culpa", ask for forgiveness, promises he will change his way, we start feeling good for him and ...this shit happens

I saw the topic in the new list, read the title, thought "yum yum" some reporting to do, saw the username....mindfuck!


Oh yes, it's too late! That ship has sailed and already sunk!

People have done & continue to do far worse things on this forum. You didn’t scam anybody, nobody was deceived & lost any money so chill.

Don’t get too apologetic, you didn’t kill anybody. Nice to see you care about your account, so much so that you addressed it here & apologised. It’s nice to see, I’m glad nobody gave you negative trust.

It’s not too late for you to become a valuable poster here. This is the place to be for bitcoin lovers, put on your big boy pants, forget this episode & get on with your life, bro.

 

Edit - Too much faith in humanity. Loyce just caught him offering a plagiarising / text spinning service.

Cretin!

Cool story! I almost believed it. Too bad your next "service" is to facility one of the worst kind of spammers this forum has seen: text spinning plagiarism:
(full post quoted as reference).

Apology accepted and No dude you are not being shamed! We have all let down ourself in one way or another. I personally have nothing against you, it's just that we get a lot of spam here which makes the reading experience terrible for other users. A warning isn't a terrible thing either... I will tell you my story, Back in the day we used to get placed in SMAS blacklist ^{( Signature managers against spam )} for spamming... It was a nightmare for shitposters... I got placed in it by @Lauda for the good! Some times we need to be slapped to wake up and get our shit together. Once you made it to that list coming out was tough work... You weren't allowed to participate in the signature campaigns managed by them So you are still in a far better situation than the rest of us were!

People treat Bitcointalk as some sort of online money making website... It's not! It's a private forum for discussing bitcoin and blockchain. People get blacklisted for the very reason that they see bitcointalk as an opportunity to make Easy money! Start treating it as a forum and you won't land yourself in any trouble...

Just like @o_e_l_e_o I don't have a problem with news stories, articles etc... Some people have compared your links with @Hydrogen but there is a striking difference between the posting style... @Hydrogen engages in his threads which he creates as I have said many times before and his articles are sourced from different websites... Just look at how many threads @Hydrogen has started in the last couple of month and then compare it to what @Cheezcarls was doing. The intent behind sharing the articles becomes clear as day... It was always the intent which was in question, not the link/articles themselves...

Anyway, it's about time this chapter closes... Hope the lessons are learned and we can move on to better things.

Speaking generally here and not specifically about cheezcarls:

I have no issue with users sharing news stories, articles, blog posts, etc. which are interesting and they wish to discuss. There are two things I do have an issue with. Firstly, users who do this every day or even multiple times a day. It's a very easy way to boost your post count and get paid from a signature campaign, with minimal original thought or effort required. Copy the first paragraph, copy the link, then just reword a sentence or two from the article or ask "What do you guys think?". 30 seconds, job done. It's low effort spamming, and topics like this just attract more spammers and rarely develop in to an interesting discussion.

Secondly, users who either own the site they are shilling, or are being paid/hired by the site. This is a discussion forum, not an advertising platform. Abusing it for your own gain, much like bounty spammers, is both selfish and detrimental to the forum.

Usually both of these behaviors - spamming and being paid - coincide.

Looking at cheezcarls' posts over the last 24 hours, the difference is night and day. Thank you. Unfortunately there will be plenty more threads like this, and most users won't be motivated to change their ways like cheezcarls has.

It wouldn't have been a perma ban just a temp one as a warning, but this is why I like to give a PM warning first as many will heed that and often-times people aren't aware of certain rules, but don't worry about it and thanks for the apology.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe we wouldn't have a problem with this kind of threads as soon as the user shows interest in the subject and posts on the forum regularly other things than advertisement.

It would've been a different story if between advertised threads & posts there were usual posts (this one is an example of it). Not sure if you get it. His account was filled up with ads only, and that's what became a problem for me. When an user starts posting 2-3 threads a day with promoted links (I'm not sure if cheezcarls did this, I am speaking generally), it becomes spam especially if the user has no involvement in the thread afterwards.

I get what some are trying to say: it's not a very big of an issue if an user does this, right? Well, this might not be a problem now but a long term problem becomes possible. What if suddenly 10% of the active members started promoting links? 1 out of 10 posts would probably be a link right under a quote. Would that be healthy for the community & forum?

Good for the OP. Those kinds of posts are net harmful to the forum because they equate to advertising spam, but I don't foresee anything substantial being done about the posts in question.

Hopefully the OP will think twice the next time he is considering making a quick buck (or coin) for doing something ethically suspect. 

That's one of my goals right now, to create helpful and meaningful topics of my own without those same links. I am committed to create helpful topics and advice this time, and giving value as well.

I'll take it one day at a time until I'm finally getting used to it.

About mistakes. There are some kinds of mistakes: forgivable and unforgivable (at least we feel unforgivable).

- Forgivable: that is what the forum treats rule-broken users with temp bans. They have second, and third chances for forgivable and minor mistakes.
- Unforgivable: that is what the forum treats seriously rule-broken users with permanently bans. They mostly don't have chance to come back with that permanent banned accounts. Exceptions are only for very positively net-effect users and they are very very rarely to see.

Fortunately, the admin allows users to create accounts. The permanent banned accounts are banned as person, not as user, it means when one account get permanent banned, the others of the same person will be temp-banned too (if detected with evidence). Fortunately, I see admin has not yet permanently banned IP addresses so permanent banned user can create their others on same IPs (the list of unofficial rules don't show such very strictly bans). I think it is unofficial forgiveness (I could be wrong).

A lil' off-topic but speaking of that, the name seems to coincide with the current Wuhan virus epidemic  

Well said. My goal when researching an account isn't to get it excluded from the community or forum. It's actually the complete opposite - I want to integrate them better in this community and help them create valuable posts & truly care about what they're writing here. I'm aiming to give the users who are doing this kind of stuff a chance to change and a little poke to wake them up. Actually, I've prepared a draft thread called "The Quarantine" exactly for this purpose but I'm still wondering whether it's a good idea to publish it or not because it would require a ton of work.

Hey man, we've had some discussions in our local board if you still remember but that was before you started working for that site. I had to put you on ignore when you've been creating a lot of topics with beincrypto links.

Anyway, I've always thought you were a decent user and can contribute more to the forum. It feels refreshing to see you make a topic without any links 

Accepting mistake is one criteria for maturity. Indeed what you are doing is somehow get the attention of other members since you are driving users to view certain website for traffics. But I often saw your post and actually its helpful to gain some news but to avoid such conflict with forum, this is a good move mate. This will not make you a shame person IMO but became a true user who do accept mistake and learn from it. Dont worry for other users here as you can see, we understand you and keep you heads up high.

Thank you for that sir and I really appreciate it.

There is an existing scam accusation which I was part of "that" project (but I know I'm no longer in their team as I choose to formally resign, which is a long story to tell).

For a long while, I really want out of that project early because of my suspicions about them, but I have to wait a bit longer until my remaining obligations are done, and I gladly did because I'm getting "used".

Yeah, I was wondering about that as well since I've never seen OP's name associated with any scam accusation.  Even with his explanation here, I don't know what the extent of OP's involvement was.

Cheezcarls, I wouldn't get so upset if I were you--I never thought you were spamming anyway, and some of the threads you started I found pretty interesting since I don't seek out crypto news and get it all on bitcointalk, basically.  Even if you were affiliated with the site that you kept linking to, the material was interesting at least and you made your own comments on it in each thread.  As I've pointed out before, Hydrogen does the same thing in the Economics section and nobody seems to have a problem with him (though he's not promoting any particular news site).

Anyway, take a deep breath, try to calm down and it's going to be alright.  I don't think anybody here hates you, and I wouldn't take any criticism here personally.

Everyone make mistakes (except LoyceV, but we all know that he is AI so he has excuse), but what i've seen here is a very strictly following of the unofficial rules and many people lost their accounts. Some OK poster were banned for plagiarism, other for maybe small mistakes but that is how you can control a 2M+ community.
I'm glad that you are willing to change, and you got that chance too but keep in mind that what you said are only words and we gonna watch you closely.

I didn't run away but I did formally tell them that I will resign (for the reason, it's a long story). I'm just concerned of what is going to happen to me if I will stick with them for a long time, because of some hidden stuff that they didn't disclose to me, which I had a bad feeling.

As for this guy right here, I am not expecting him to believe my side of the story (because I think he doesn't). At least I am telling him the truth which comes from my heart, and that's what matters.

If you guys wanna know what "scam" this guy refers, just PM me and I'll tell you exactly my side as I'm scared if revealing everything in public (which should be in the Scam Accusations).

If you feel uncomfortable why do you run away? You should declare out or decide to cooperate with them politely because maybe you are following committed people