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Quote from: BitcoinPorn on January 16, 2012, 09:34:13 AM

Quote from: MoonShadow on January 16, 2012, 09:32:21 AM

So I'm also of the opinion that there isn't really any official position on bitcoin from Amazon, and near term adoption as a payment method is unlikely.

I don't think so either, but let's keep all these inquiries going

It is a good idea.

In my younger days I worked in a tech support call center both as a tech and later as a manager. (shudder - those were the dark times).

Any good call center runs daily & weekly reports using searching of call notes to spot trends. Companies want to find out about a big issue or trend before it becomes a big issue or trend. Can't hurt to have Bitcoin popping up on the "most active new issue" report. Maybe someone in Amazon does a 5 minute search and is at least aware of it.

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Quote from: sat0pi on January 16, 2012, 09:28:27 AM

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Quote from: MoonShadow on January 16, 2012, 09:19:51 AM

It's not too soon for bitcoin

IMHO it is too soon for Bitcoin. It is unlikely Amazon shareholders would be happy with "currency risk" associated w/ Bitcoin so any integration would likely be a bitpay like internal system.

The problem is the market doesn't have sufficient depth to handle even a tiny fraction of Amazon volume. If Amazon needs to liquidate 10K BTC per day the market couldn't handle it.

Someday it could. Someday we will reach a point where 10K buy or sell doesn't even move the bid/ask but we aren't there yet.

But for Amazon to reach the point where they need to liquidate 10K BTC per day the economy would have to grow significantly from what it is right now in the first place meaning that they *would* probably be able to liquidate 10K BTC per day because there would be that much demand to purchase BTC.

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Quote from: BadBear on January 16, 2012, 09:34:41 AM

Quote from: sat0pi on January 16, 2012, 09:28:27 AM

Quote from: DeathAndTaxes on January 16, 2012, 09:23:09 AM

Quote from: MoonShadow on January 16, 2012, 09:19:51 AM

It's not too soon for bitcoin

IMHO it is too soon for Bitcoin. It is unlikely Amazon shareholders would be happy with "currency risk" associated w/ Bitcoin so any integration would likely be a bitpay like internal system.

The problem is the market doesn't have sufficient depth to handle even a tiny fraction of Amazon volume. If Amazon needs to liquidate 10K BTC per day the market couldn't handle it.

Someday it could. Someday we will reach a point where 10K buy or sell doesn't even move the bid/ask but we aren't there yet.

But for Amazon to reach the point where they need to liquidate 10K BTC per day the economy would have to grow significantly from what it is right now in the first place meaning that they *would* probably be able to liquidate 10K BTC per day because there would be that much demand to purchase BTC.

Agreed, people had to ~~buy~~ acquire the 10k btc per day in the first place. Volume shouldn't really be a problem.

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Quote from: sat0pi on January 16, 2012, 09:28:27 AM

Quote from: DeathAndTaxes on January 16, 2012, 09:23:09 AM

Quote from: MoonShadow on January 16, 2012, 09:19:51 AM

It's not too soon for bitcoin

IMHO it is too soon for Bitcoin. It is unlikely Amazon shareholders would be happy with "currency risk" associated w/ Bitcoin so any integration would likely be a bitpay like internal system.

The problem is the market doesn't have sufficient depth to handle even a tiny fraction of Amazon volume. If Amazon needs to liquidate 10K BTC per day the market couldn't handle it.

Someday it could. Someday we will reach a point where 10K buy or sell doesn't even move the bid/ask but we aren't there yet.

But for Amazon to reach the point where they need to liquidate 10K BTC per day the economy would have to grow significantly from what it is right now in the first place meaning that they *would* probably be able to liquidate 10K BTC per day because there would be that much demand to purchase BTC.

Agreed, people had to ~~buy~~ acquire the 10k btc per day in the first place. Volume shouldn't really be a problem.

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Quote from: MoonShadow on January 16, 2012, 09:32:21 AM

So I'm also of the opinion that there isn't really any official position on bitcoin from Amazon, and near term adoption as a payment method is unlikely.

I don't think so either, but let's keep all these inquiries going

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I chatted as well, and got this...

You are now connected to Edmond from Amazon.com.
Me:Bitcoin as a payment method?
I was wondering if Amazon had any plans to accept bitcoin as a payment method, and if so, when I can expect it?
Edmond:Hello , my name is Edmond. I'm sorry about this. I'll be glad to check that out for you.
Me:Why would you be sorry? What did you do?
Edmond:As I checked as much as I want to give you more information about the Bitcoin as payment. However, as of now there is no further notice feom our management about this but if there will be already a notice form this I'll send you already an email that we can now accept Bitcoin as a payment on Amazon.
Me:okay, thanks.

So I'm also of the opinion that there isn't really any official position on bitcoin from Amazon, and near term adoption as a payment method is unlikely.

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Quote from: notme on January 16, 2012, 09:21:42 AM

Quote from: MoonShadow on January 16, 2012, 09:19:51 AM

Quote from: rebuilder on January 16, 2012, 04:07:04 AM

I'm very skeptical as well. Amazon accepting Bitcoin would be huge, so huge it would steamroll the whole Bitcoin economy. Amazon must know that, if they know about Bitcoin. It's too soon.

It's not too soon for bitcoin, but Amazon may or may not be cautiously considering such a move. Bitcoin is ready for such events, but the inclusion by Amazon or any other major player is going to introduce some major price movements again; because it won't just be one. If Amazon does it, there are many others who will do it also in short order.

And then we'll all be millionaire equivalents.

I sometimes wish Satoshi had set the limit to something like 21K instead of 21M - that way 'bitcoinaire' might one day have simultaneously referred to someone holding an entire bitcoin or more and as being of great wealth.
I'm not *quite* bullish enough to hope that this century, under a 21M limit, 'bitcoinaire' could be a 'millionaire equivalent' in todays dollars Wink

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Quote from: DeathAndTaxes on January 16, 2012, 09:23:09 AM

Quote from: MoonShadow on January 16, 2012, 09:19:51 AM

It's not too soon for bitcoin

IMHO it is too soon for Bitcoin. It is unlikely Amazon shareholders would be happy with "currency risk" associated w/ Bitcoin so any integration would likely be a bitpay like internal system.

The problem is the market doesn't have sufficient depth to handle even a tiny fraction of Amazon volume. If Amazon needs to liquidate 10K BTC per day the market couldn't handle it.

Someday it could. Someday we will reach a point where 10K buy or sell doesn't even move the bid/ask but we aren't there yet.

But for Amazon to reach the point where they need to liquidate 10K BTC per day the economy would have to grow significantly from what it is right now in the first place meaning that they *would* probably be able to liquidate 10K BTC per day because there would be that much demand to purchase BTC.

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Dollars to doughnuts that Amazon already has a crack staff that would be able to think of a way to ensure that Bitcoin's "flaws" would not effect their internal system that they create to accept and track Bitcoin. Bitcoin's next stages of evolution may no longer take place on forums, on the Stackexchange, in mom's basement's worldwide, but behind a corporate entity that has the knowledge on what Bitcoin needs to be put into a real world situation.

I also wouldn't be surprised if some forum members and other notable Bitcoin developers start getting offers from said entities to give themselves a boost. "Bit Pay, now sponsored by PayPal" Wink

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Quote from: MoonShadow on January 16, 2012, 09:19:51 AM

It's not too soon for bitcoin

IMHO it is too soon for Bitcoin. It is unlikely Amazon shareholders would be happy with "currency risk" associated w/ Bitcoin so any integration would likely be a bitpay like internal system.

The problem is the market doesn't have sufficient depth to handle even a tiny fraction of Amazon volume. If Amazon needs to liquidate 10K BTC per day the market couldn't handle it.

Someday it could. Someday we will reach a point where 10K buy or sell doesn't even move the bid/ask but we aren't there yet.

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Quote from: MoonShadow on January 16, 2012, 09:19:51 AM

Quote from: rebuilder on January 16, 2012, 04:07:04 AM

I'm very skeptical as well. Amazon accepting Bitcoin would be huge, so huge it would steamroll the whole Bitcoin economy. Amazon must know that, if they know about Bitcoin. It's too soon.

It's not too soon for bitcoin, but Amazon may or may not be cautiously considering such a move. Bitcoin is ready for such events, but the inclusion by Amazon or any other major player is going to introduce some major price movements again; because it won't just be one. If Amazon does it, there are many others who will do it also in short order.

And then we'll all be millionaire equivalents.

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Quote from: rebuilder on January 16, 2012, 04:07:04 AM

I'm very skeptical as well. Amazon accepting Bitcoin would be huge, so huge it would steamroll the whole Bitcoin economy. Amazon must know that, if they know about Bitcoin. It's too soon.

It's not too soon for bitcoin, but Amazon may or may not be cautiously considering such a move. Bitcoin is ready for such events, but the inclusion by Amazon or any other major player is going to introduce some major price movements again; because it won't just be one. If Amazon does it, there are many others who will do it also in short order.

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Me:I would like to ask about future payment options.
Queen:Hi, my name is Queen, I'll be happy to assist you today.
Me:Hi there
Queen:I will be happy to answer your payment inquiries.
Me:I was wondering whether amazon is considering new payment options in the future
Queen:We accept credit cards, debit cards, payment from U.S. checking accounts, Amazon.com Gift Cards, and Amazon.com Store Card. More information is available in our Help pages here: http://www.amazon.com/help/payment
Me:Yeah, I already checked out that page and I'm aware of the current payment options, but for some nationalities it's still not very easy to order something on amazon unless you've got a creditcard, which I don't have
so do you know about any new payment options coming up in the future?
Queen:As of the moment, we don;t have any changes to any future changes with he payment methods that we are accepting in the future but I will take this as a feedback.
Me:Okay, I would love to be able to pay with bitcoin in the future if this would be an option
Queen:I will forward this feedback to the next department thank your and is there anything else that I can assist you with today?
Me:nope not at the moment, thanks for your time!
have a great day

My conversation. I guess EhVedadoOAnonimato was right.

Still if 100 people had the same conversation as I had, they will at least look into this I guess.

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Coinabul, edit the first post with a challenge to people to "see for yourselves" and a link so people can chat it up too Wink

Mass inquiries is just as good as mass promotion I would think. Dear lord if there is any indication that Amazon would legitimately start accepting Bitcoins, it's time to sell the car! And wait three days for that cash to make it to an exchange Cheesy

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Maybe somebody at Amazon is thinking this:

1. Buy bitcoins
2. Announce that Amazon will soon accept bitcoins
3. Huh

4. Profit

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I asked. They guy i talked to did not know but would forward my request.

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Quote from: DiThi on January 16, 2012, 07:04:16 AM

It would be great news! Until then, it seems you can already buy on amazon with this: http://spendbitcoins.com/

Has anyone tried that?

Yep, just did yesterday. Works perfectly, I got my code in 10 minutes (though dont count on that, Jeremy was posting here while I made the order). No markup for the bitcoins over mtgox prices, no fees, I was impressed.

As for amazon accepting bitcoins; no offense, but I doubt that Indian support guy had a clue. Next time someone wants to try, ask if they plan to support solidcoin or something, and dont be surprised to get the same response Wink

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Quote from: DiThi on January 16, 2012, 07:04:16 AM

It would be great news! Until then, it seems you can already buy on amazon with this: http://spendbitcoins.com/

Has anyone tried that?

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It would be great news! Until then, it seems you can already buy on amazon with this: http://spendbitcoins.com/

Has anyone tried that?

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You are now connected to Deepti from Amazon.com.
Deepti:Hello, my name is Deepti. I'll be happy to help you today.
Me:hi
I have just a question
do you know if Amazon is going to accept Bitcoin currency?
Deepti:I'm sorry we don't have any information about Bitcoin currency.
Me:ah
ok
thank you anyway
Deepti:You're welcome.
Is there anything else I can assist you with today?
Me:no
bye
Deepti:Thanks for visiting Amazon.com. We hope to see you again soon! Good Night. Bye.

Anyway, you can try by yourself Wink

https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/contact-us/general-questions.html?ie=UTF8&skip=true

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I'm very skeptical as well. Amazon accepting Bitcoin would be huge, so huge it would steamroll the whole Bitcoin economy. Amazon must know that, if they know about Bitcoin. It's too soon.

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