Topic: I think we should SUE Simon Hausdorf... ( bitcoin-24.com ) (Read 3302 times)
People should just calm down, Simon can't give us our money or btc back right now he has to cooperate with authorities who are investigating the matter. Sueing him will just complicate matters which will probably mean we have to wait longer before we get our money back.
But i also believe that costumers funds are in big risk for several reasons.
From what I read in the documents there is no need to worry. Funds are locked until July 7th at the latest. Unless they can prove he DELIBERATELY took part in money laundering, there is no way they can seize funds.
The guy is clearly a scammer, and he's dragging this out as long as possible. This tactic is as old as scamming itself.
People with euros in his account have a chance at a recovery because he does not control that account any more.
People with btc in his wallet (myself included) can kiss that money goodbye, because nothing stops him from giving it back, yet he chooses not to.
The guy is a fucking scammer, he got 20,000 btc, he's rich. He just has to return the euros and he's a made man. Nobody can force him to return the btc.
People with euros in his account have a chance at a recovery because he does not control that account any more.
People with btc in his wallet (myself included) can kiss that money goodbye, because nothing stops him from giving it back, yet he chooses not to.
The guy is a fucking scammer, he got 20,000 btc, he's rich. He just has to return the euros and he's a made man. Nobody can force him to return the btc.
I also find it hard, for this Simon and his team to full so many people in such huge sum and get a way with a easy live ! There is very much in stake.
But i also believe that costumers funds are in big risk for several reasons.
There's a statement from a lawyer: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2329063/BTC24.pdf
It's linked from bitcoin-24.com
It's linked from bitcoin-24.com
Read these 2 threads... finally someone is talking some sense
http://board.btc24-help.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=81&sid=76ce23edbb991e13c2eb416231dcfd5f
http://board.btc24-help.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=82&sid=28cfe5634e3a59f7c5c6fb4960c60ef9
http://board.btc24-help.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=81&sid=76ce23edbb991e13c2eb416231dcfd5f
http://board.btc24-help.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=82&sid=28cfe5634e3a59f7c5c6fb4960c60ef9
Humm... Simon had gathered here: http://board.btc24-help.com/ a lot of friendly victims ...
Let’s talk . Any one here can tell me where can i find this poor guy , and how he looks like ?
What would you do then? Hunt him down so that he cannot work on repaying people?
There is prob not much he can do rigth now without getting in trouble with the law.
My guess is that this will be sorted just fine. Some may loose a little due to loose transactons, but he may have founds to cover that too.
Read these 2 threads... finally someone is talking some sense
http://board.btc24-help.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=81&sid=76ce23edbb991e13c2eb416231dcfd5f
http://board.btc24-help.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=82&sid=28cfe5634e3a59f7c5c6fb4960c60ef9
http://board.btc24-help.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=81&sid=76ce23edbb991e13c2eb416231dcfd5f
http://board.btc24-help.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=82&sid=28cfe5634e3a59f7c5c6fb4960c60ef9
Humm... Simon had gathered here: http://board.btc24-help.com/ a lot of friendly victims ...
Let’s talk . Any one here can tell me where can i find this poor guy , and how he looks like ?
Read these 2 threads... finally someone is talking some sense
http://board.btc24-help.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=81&sid=76ce23edbb991e13c2eb416231dcfd5f
http://board.btc24-help.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=82&sid=28cfe5634e3a59f7c5c6fb4960c60ef9
http://board.btc24-help.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=81&sid=76ce23edbb991e13c2eb416231dcfd5f
http://board.btc24-help.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=82&sid=28cfe5634e3a59f7c5c6fb4960c60ef9
The guy is clearly a scammer, and he's dragging this out as long as possible. This tactic is as old as scamming itself.
People with euros in his account have a chance at a recovery because he does not control that account any more.
People with btc in his wallet (myself included) can kiss that money goodbye, because nothing stops him from giving it back, yet he chooses not to.
The guy is a fucking scammer, he got 20,000 btc, he's rich. He just has to return the euros and he's a made man. Nobody can force him to return the btc.
People with euros in his account have a chance at a recovery because he does not control that account any more.
People with btc in his wallet (myself included) can kiss that money goodbye, because nothing stops him from giving it back, yet he chooses not to.
The guy is a fucking scammer, he got 20,000 btc, he's rich. He just has to return the euros and he's a made man. Nobody can force him to return the btc.
This isn't exactly a completely anonymous guy who just scammed someone on a forum. We need to find information about him IRL.
We know his name.
Can we find the name of his bank?
Can we find an address of his business?
for the record I disagree and I'm not going to argue.
I am pissed off with the situation of course, and I hope he sorts out a proper line of communication asap
I am pissed off with the situation of course, and I hope he sorts out a proper line of communication asap
The guy is clearly a scammer, and he's dragging this out as long as possible. This tactic is as old as scamming itself.
People with euros in his account have a chance at a recovery because he does not control that account any more.
People with btc in his wallet (myself included) can kiss that money goodbye, because nothing stops him from giving it back, yet he chooses not to.
The guy is a fucking scammer, he got 20,000 btc, he's rich. He just has to return the euros and he's a made man. Nobody can force him to return the btc.
People with euros in his account have a chance at a recovery because he does not control that account any more.
People with btc in his wallet (myself included) can kiss that money goodbye, because nothing stops him from giving it back, yet he chooses not to.
The guy is a fucking scammer, he got 20,000 btc, he's rich. He just has to return the euros and he's a made man. Nobody can force him to return the btc.
Can any one explain me what is prevent Simon to let access our accounts ? They are frozen
I mean BTC 24 accounts ! Most of costumers don’t know exactly their balances , so should be allowed to gathering all information to sustain their claims !
it's all about simon now. he's obviously a psychopath. notice how all the statements are 'the stupid banks did this and no recognition that he did anything wrong.
your balance is zero
Can any one explain me what is prevent Simon to let access our accounts ? They are frozen
I mean BTC 24 accounts ! Most of costumers don’t know exactly their balances , so should be allowed to gathering all information to sustain their claims !
Apparently, we were trading about 5 million EUR on Thomas' site. The Commerzbank informed the Bremen police about "money laundering and financing terrorism". The police seized his bank accounts.
We can sue him personally, or we could sue Commerzbank to release the funds.
Someone has got to give us our money back.
We can sue him personally, or we could sue Commerzbank to release the funds.
Someone has got to give us our money back.
The order goes like this: We sue simon, simon sues the bank.
You are Simon's customer, simon is the Commerzbank's customer.
Anyway, i think that a lawyer would be very helpful.
I don’t see any happy ending for costumers if we don’t sue booth !
Can any one explain me what is prevent Simon to let access our accounts ? They are frozen
Can any one explain me what is prevent Simon to start to refund our BTC balance ? Nothing
Can any one explain me what is prevent Simon to reply emails ? Nothing
He might being victim but his behaviour is not totally right!
replied in quote. he'll come out of prison or having done 6 months community service a millionaire.
the only good thing is I think people with cash in those accounts will eventually get most of their money back. bitcoin no chance.
also why is he on multiple sites posting how he's not allowed say stuff because of his lawyer yet we've never had a statement from his lawyer.
I hope he gets raped in prison
Can any one explain me what is prevent Simon to let access our accounts ?
Can any one explain me what is prevent Simon to start to refund our BTC balance ?
Can any one explain me what is prevent Simon to reply emails ?
He might being victim but his behaviour is not totally right!
I notice the bitcoin withdrawal will be available claims by simon from a couple of days ago never materialized.
He'll probably be a bitcoin millionaire by the time he gets out. And the great thing is none of the seized money was really his in the first place. win win
He'll probably be a bitcoin millionaire by the time he gets out. And the great thing is none of the seized money was really his in the first place. win win
did you miss the recent events?
it's all in the hands of the authorities now... search warrant and all... which isn't too good news. This could take months.
it's all in the hands of the authorities now... search warrant and all... which isn't too good news. This could take months.
Apparently, we were trading about 5 million EUR on Thomas' site. The Commerzbank informed the Bremen police about "money laundering and financing terrorism". The police seized his bank accounts.
We can sue him personally, or we could sue Commerzbank to release the funds.
Someone has got to give us our money back.
We can sue him personally, or we could sue Commerzbank to release the funds.
Someone has got to give us our money back.
The order goes like this: We sue simon, simon sues the bank.
You are Simon's customer, simon is the Commerzbank's customer.
Anyway, i think that a lawyer would be very helpful.
Apparently, we were trading about 5 million EUR on Thomas' site. The Commerzbank informed the Bremen police about "money laundering and financing terrorism". The police seized his bank accounts.
We can sue him personally, or we could sue Commerzbank to release the funds.
Someone has got to give us our money back.
We can sue him personally, or we could sue Commerzbank to release the funds.
Someone has got to give us our money back.
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