Topic: I want law and order back - page 2. (Read 507 times)

Law and order is necessary for all countries if there is no proper law and order, the country will deteriorate. Common people should not be surprised by such double-edged statements in the current political culture of the country. Because here even if it is very good one side will say it is very bad and even if it is very bad, one side will say it is very good. Political cultures are such contradictions. Here political parties prefer to blame each other.

Smile, it will be good for every country to become like Canada as you wish but you should also know that Canada is different from other countries, every country has a way they ruling the country, and some countries' laws will even be better than Canada but they won’t take it seriously, the standard of a country depends on how the government rule the country, some countries law may be even more different than Canada but with the corruption of the government the country will not let the laws function, every countries follow their laws and they try their best to make sure things go according to their laws.

It can never be possible that every country in the world should be like Canada, there are things that Canada will like and the other countries will not like, there are things that Canada doesn’t have and some countries have and it will be the reason why they can’t do as the same thing Canada did, every country has the way they rule their country, and there will be a country that is even better than Canada that you don’t know so let just say that you like the way Canada life is and you wish if your country would be better like the way Canada lifestyle is.

Adultery should be punished by whatever law the state that holds it as a criminal offence prescribes. I would recommend it simply being marked on record as a criminal offence and the record of it removed if the cheating spouse is willing to return to the family home until the family is reared if the spouse who was cheated on agrees to it. If the offence is repeated again then the spouse who is cheated on is given the family home and full rights over the family while the repeat offending adulterer is sent on their way alone to live whatever life they choose and only allowed to see their children at the discretion of the spouse who is left to rear the family. Also the serial adulterer should have a fixed % of their income taken from them until the last child is fully reared or something to this effect.

The books of wisdom would benefit even an atheist but the teachings can be used without anyone forced to believe in G-D etc. It is your free choice whether you believe. They are simply invaluable teachings used by many people from all religions and none and prepare people for the real world with real world knowledge unlike learning about critical race theory or gender ideology or other nonsense.



Re: discipline well this is why the US is going to hell in a handbasket because the majority of parents let their children grow up feral or the parents behave irresponsibly and lead with a bad example.

Discipline should be in accordance with the law of each respective jurisdiction and parents should only live in a jurisdiction that allows them to bring their family up in a manner that allows them to become honest decent human beings that don't kill and steal etc no matter how "disadvantaged" they are. There is NO excuse for leading a life that involves murder,robbery and violence against other human beings. There is also no excuse for a society that literally glorifies this behaviour through entertainment etc.

And what would be the punishment for someone who dares to commit adultery, may I ask? Because how it stands now, cheating on your partner is not okey, but it is not an offense in the eyes of the law.
by the way, I assume that you mean the Bible when you talk about "books of wisdom", in that case, What is supposed to happen to children and the youth who go to school and yet thet are of a different religion, like Islam or Judaism?

Finally, depending on the country and jurisdiction, parents can either physically pushing their children or not, in my country parents can, but in the USA , that would be considered to be cruelty or abuse, and the parents could get arrested because of physically disciplining their children.

Lol, so funny the way you put it.

I don't think it's the government Fault for this one, what do you have them do hang every criminal they see on the street, taht woudk be a bad idea, law and oder already exists and is implemented, but bad people keeps getting smarter and corruption, but any way if you know where to walk at night and where not to, you won't be a victim, everyone should help himself by trying to stay safe and be cautious .

I would go even further and make adultery a criminal offence where a family home is broken up and childrens lives turned into turmoil by an unfaithful husband or wife or some other who knowingly who decides it is okay to wreck a home.

I would also add teaching the books of wisdom to children in school and giving back the right to parents to diligently discipline their children if they are stealing, taking drugs or hanging around with bad company etc.

Bad children come mainly from bad parenting and G-Dless societies.

Harm people or enforcing law? There is an important difference between those things, you know. Or are you suddenly in for reforming programs so felons can be reintegrated within society? I doubt it.
It was Trump, back during the riots of the 2020 summer, than rioters were supposed to be shot dead as soon as they started to steal from businesses.

What if the target of the criminal offense is not the government at all, (like what happened in January 6th) but other citizens? would you suggest the state not to intervene and minimize policing and law enforcement to the minimum level possible?
knowing your previous participations here, I would not be astonished if you suggested all people in your country should be their own police officer and carry a gun at all times, abolishing the law enforcement agencies and saving taxpayer money.

what is your take?

Therew are different cities that have great security and one can even work on the road at the mid night hour.
This is based on how security conscious that place could be. There are some cities that do not have a good security and people would keep going around stealing from commuters since the government do not provide a good job for people in such city to live on good salaries. Maybe it is will be quite conscious for many of us to move to a secury conscious local for our safety.

I believe that crime rate differs from countries, some are very high, some moderate and others reletively low, but you cannot totally write off crime from any country, no matter how secured the country is. The OP visit to Canada, was probably in their urban areas where security of lives and properties are of the highest priority, perhaps he might not say the same thing in their rural areas, it's someone who has lived in Canada, for a very long time that can give give us an accurate report about their crime rate. I believe that small crimes are more in countries have a high rate of unemployment and very poor people.

^^^ Government may harm some of the people. But when the number becomes large enough, the rest of the people will rise up and stop the government. The evidence for this is found in all the revolutions that have happened around the world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6b70TUbdfs

Numbers have changed. The video is 13 years old.

Yes I concur there is no environment you will not find such caliber of people just that effective laws and policy including the armed forces working tirelessly reduced there operations even in their so called domain whee there operations is always higher they hardly assemble and they will be chase on daily basis feel scared if be apprehended by the government, all depends how the government want to handle such people, but while most caliber of people keeps having courage is that in mist third world country where their operations is high they are been supponsor by the top government officials which make them gather momentum to operate without fear of been hunt. Apart from that such people can't withstand the government if they are out for them no matter where they have clum or dominated.

Generally, if the police commits the greatest wrongdoing, the general public will seek justice from the people of the law. We live in a country where the law is weak because the people of the law are the ones who do illegal things, they commit robberies, robberies and robberies in broad daylight. Usually the lawmen are standing and other people are doing wrong there but the lawmen are not saying anything, because the police are getting some shares from here, that's why there is no solution even if there is a wrongful robbery during the day.

But if the law against such crime is life imprisonment, I guess, people will have freedom to move at anytime without fear of arm robbery, which is very common in some society today and the more police are putting more efforts to end it,the more the thief are increasing.

It will favor the people in the society, if they can allow law and order to work in the society because it will be difficult for thiefs to Robb and go free like the way they use to go free with their influence with the top people in the government position. 

But there are some societies that have standard security, which they will not allow people to commit any crime that will end their life, they have decided to create some places where people can be giving orientation about some of the things that push people to commit crimes to ensure they avoid such things in the society.

they do not commit criminal acts not because they are afraid of the police, but rather because they are more advanced and educated. because no matter how strict the police are towards people, if someone really wants to commit a crime, then they will still do it. for example in mexico, do you know how strict the police are there? even on average the police are armed, but the fact is that the crime rate there is still high, and there are many examples in other countries. so it's not that the police are fully armed and then people will be afraid of that, if so people could also assemble their own weapons and fight the police.

A ruler's rule is good governance when there is a transparent legal framework and it applies equally to all people. That is the saying that all are equal in the eyes of the law will be the basis of good governance. Good governance does not exist without the presence of rule of law. Rule of law means to accept the supremacy of law and rule according to law. The number of crimes is increasing in the country due to lack of proper law and order. Poor people are turning to crime to meet their needs.

Well. If you look closely, many of the laws within the judicial system of the western democracies based their laws after the Original ten commandments given to Moses by God. In any civilized country or society, theft is a serious crime so is murder, which are directly referenced in the old testament. Also, within a legal and judicial context providing a false testimony against someone is also a serious crime called "perjury". Those are good examples on how the traditional religious in the West have influenced the law enforcement systems in the West.
Of course, we cannot expect those laws which are enforced by men to end the evil on the planet and bring us all to a new era or peace, but do nothing and allow sin and crime to go around unpunished is not an options, you know.
It does not matter whether the earthy justice is companied with heavenly justice, there must some consequences of bad actions.

^^^ The point is, people do NOT obey the Ten Commandments. The first great law of the 10 is, "Thou shalt have no other gods before Me."

When was this great law broken first? In the Garden of Eden, where the first two people obeyed the serpent rather than God.

Nice idea to obey the 10. But it won't happen until the people start believing in Jesus, their Savior.

If everyone obeyed the ten commandments given to Moses there would be no problem with law and order in our towns and cities but we have extremists running the show now who propogate all manner of lawlessness as a human right and lifestyle choice.

The right to rob because they feel they were the victim of some colonial power that has nothing to do with reality or the right to take another's property because they cannot afford to buy it. There are many poor people who choose not to steal or murder their way out of poverty. Again it comes down to obeying G_D's laws. That is the real solution to the problem.

you have not gone round of the country even a Russian police is leaving doing well so you cannot compare a particular country police rules and the regulation to other country rules and regulation to so you can only explain and also testify to a country that he have been into travel to other countries you will see their conduct and the you have to compare it with the one you see in Canada don't make a conclusion when you have not gone around

If you really want law and order back, learn what law really is. Then teach your close group of friends, and with them, stand up against unlawful government people.

One of the best places to go to understand what law is really about is https://www.youtube.com/@CraigLynch/videos.

A second best place is https://www.lawfulpath.com/ref/bouvier/maxims.shtml.

It's gonna take some time and study. But when you learn this stuff, you will be able to stand up against government, and against crooks in and out of government.