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Topic: I want to report crypto currencies stealing, where should i go? (Read 245 times)

jr. member
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I've had that happen too, and I've been trying to find the hacker, and it's been bad. all my money is gone. but if you look at your problem, i think you should go to mosco, because you have a lot of crypto. or you have to find friends or people who live there. you should be more careful, if it's an important email or an email that has high assets, you should have stricter locks, like 2FA, activate GPS and cellphone numbers, all the tools you have associated with email, so when a hacker comes in, you've know it. next time be careful
hero member
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Hello
I was a victim of crypto currencies stealing, a hacker was able to log to my email account, and find the 12 words in my email for multiple wallets , then he/she/they transfer everything (37Eth, 20ETC, 0.07BTC, 20 BCH , 30000 Doge) rounded numbers. this was in Nov-2019. i really couldn't do anything at this time, asked some of my friends, everybody said no way to get it back

Now i have some details about the subspecies hacker , but it need an law enforcement authorities to investigate more starting with the information  i have.

I try to report to the local authorities without any luck ( i am living in the middle east).

The subspecies hacker suppose to be living in Russia ( Mosco or san Petersburg) at least with the information i have.


What local authorities have to go to if it's Police they cannot do anything, you need to get a lawyer and ask about existing laws that govern hacking in your country, but since the hacker is overseas I doubt, if you have a chance since it is not within the jurisdiction of your country, you will have to go to the country of the hackers and charge him there.
You have to decide if you really want to get your coins at the cost that you want to spend recovering them.
Would really be hard on making or taking actions if crypto isnt regulated or being recognized on your country which governing bodies or even lawyers wont really be having much idea on what you are trying to claim of
or complaints and also there are cons specially if this one is dealing with big amounts which you might be ending up on getting taxed despite of the help that you might get.

Also the thing to be considered that hacks and stolen coins is something impossible to be recovered specially if there were no tracks unless if it do deal or engage with centralized platforms then there might
be still have some chance.

For now the best thing you can do is to move on and dont stress out yourself.
legendary
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Hello
I was a victim of crypto currencies stealing, a hacker was able to log to my email account, and find the 12 words in my email for multiple wallets , then he/she/they transfer everything (37Eth, 20ETC, 0.07BTC, 20 BCH , 30000 Doge) rounded numbers. this was in Nov-2019. i really couldn't do anything at this time, asked some of my friends, everybody said no way to get it back

Now i have some details about the subspecies hacker , but it need an law enforcement authorities to investigate more starting with the information  i have.

I try to report to the local authorities without any luck ( i am living in the middle east).

The subspecies hacker suppose to be living in Russia ( Mosco or san Petersburg) at least with the information i have.


What local authorities have to go to if it's Police they cannot do anything, you need to get a lawyer and ask about existing laws that govern hacking in your country, but since the hacker is overseas I doubt, if you have a chance since it is not within the jurisdiction of your country, you will have to go to the country of the hackers and charge him there.
You have to decide if you really want to get your coins at the cost that you want to spend recovering them.
legendary
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That's a lot of money and it might you will under interrogation too if where that money comes from.

I don't see anyone here suggesting using Chainalysis, it's a service that helps government and even private sectors to recover and find the hacker, they studied and investigate all blockchain transactions that to track the transaction of hackers activities.  It might be good if your local authorities will collaborate with them for further fastest investigation regarding your stolen crypto assets.

Sorry for your loss but I think it's a less of a percentage that your fund being recovered.
jr. member
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Hello
I was a victim of crypto currencies stealing, a hacker was able to log to my email account, and find the 12 words in my email for multiple wallets , then he/she/they transfer everything (37Eth, 20ETC, 0.07BTC, 20 BCH , 30000 Doge) rounded numbers. this was in Nov-2019. i really couldn't do anything at this time, asked some of my friends, everybody said no way to get it back

Now i have some details about the subspecies hacker , but it need an law enforcement authorities to investigate more starting with the information  i have.

I try to report to the local authorities without any luck ( i am living in the middle east).

The subspecies hacker suppose to be living in Russia ( Mosco or san Petersburg) at least with the information i have.


Where Should i go ??

This is serious,
i will advise no to further as you don't have sustainable and concrete information about the person you are about to accused, all you need is to be very careful not to fall victim anymore
full member
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Not to rub it in, but that is the worst security and privacy practice you did by putting all 12 seed mnemonic phrase in any email.

I think putting his seed phrase in his email is not the issue , it is secured sort of but the problem is either he has exposed his email password or he stored the passphrase online and that is a bad practice because it is prone to hacking.

i guess he tried to apply in a work were he was asked to input his email and password and he did, there are many google which i have came across that would have led to my hacking of my mail but when i noticed i easily did not fill out the next information.
full member
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What do you wanna do about this, to report the whom you are suspecting that you have no enough evidence and details about the person?
or do you think the wallets that moves your details has a tag name showing the person's name and you believe it was the right person you are accusing?
Menh nothing can be done about it in as much as the person you are suspecting to be the hacker does not has names tagged on his wallet then no need.
besides you should have a drive or flash for your seed phrase and private keys, i was once a victim so i m now very careful.
hero member
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You had your seed phrase just sitting around in an email??

And it was two years ago??

Two years have passed. It seems unlikely you have the info of who hacked you. If you have some actual hard evidence I guess you could contact some sort of cyber crimes division.


And the email..really? I mean what happened to you totally sucks but come on, the one rule of crypto is to secure your private key / seed phrase. By leaving it in an email that's basically like leaving a pile of cash in an abandoned building and hoping nobody comes across it. Your keys should never be on anything online or anywhere physical where someone could easily find it. Having it in an email is the worst ignoring of crypto security i've ever heard of. Good luck though with reporting this crime.
hero member
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First, what you did is wrong of putting your seed in your email. It's a total negligence. I'm not blaming you but that's really why people shoud keep their recovery words elsewhere offline.

Secondly, if you will report this to the authorities and going to the country that you suspected where the hackers live. Do you have enough proof to your report aside from being hacked? they might turn the tide and say that it's still you that just transferred funds because you have no solid proof.
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I try to report to the local authorities without any luck
Just to be clear, you specifically contacted the cybercrime division [in your country], right?

It can be important to understand how cryptocurrencies are treated in the particular local law system, so it can be properly presented to the local criminal persecution authorities. For example, cryptocurrencies might not be considered as "property" that can be "stolen", but it may still be possible to create a fraud case.

This organization(s) refused to revel this information to me without legal order
Then work on it [with a lawyer].
- Don't get your hopes up.

( Interpol in this case that is if they will be interested)
They'll ignore such reports unless local authorities or the police submits them: If you need help [INTERPOL]

The local authorities will contact Interpol if they figure out it's a cross-border situation. Success will still largely depend on the work of the local authorities both where the victim lives and where the money went. It can be helpful to understand how to escalate the case to the next higher authority. Still, there is often little chance to recover much of the lost money.
legendary
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I think putting his seed phrase in his email is not the issue , it is secured sort of but the problem is either he has exposed his email password or he stored the passphrase online and that is a bad practice because it is prone to hacking.
Having seeed phrase online is an issue, it is also even not encrypted, hackers can be able to access some email which can be a mistake from the victim. The best is to just have the seed phrase offline, it can be on paper, laminated paper or metallic steal. If someone can have his seed phrase on email, I am perfectly sure the person will not have safe method to protect the seed phrase because that is one of the worst ways to backup seed phrase.
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Not to rub it in, but that is the worst security and privacy practice you did by putting all 12 seed mnemonic phrase in any email.

I think putting his seed phrase in his email is not the issue , it is secured sort of but the problem is either he has exposed his email password or he stored the passphrase online and that is a bad practice because it is prone to hacking.
hero member
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Sorry to burst the bubble, but I don't think that anyone or any entity can help the OP recover his crypto from this hackers. I know it's hard, but you have to face the consequences of it, and as others have said, this is a very expensive lesson to learn.

Not to rub it in, but that is the worst security and privacy practice you did by putting all 12 seed mnemonic phrase in any email.
hero member
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Hello
I was a victim of crypto currencies stealing, a hacker was able to log to my email account, and find the 12 words in my email for multiple wallets , then he/she/they transfer everything (37Eth, 20ETC, 0.07BTC, 20 BCH , 30000 Doge) rounded numbers. this was in Nov-2019. i really couldn't do anything at this time, asked some of my friends, everybody said no way to get it back

Now i have some details about the subspecies hacker , but it need an law enforcement authorities to investigate more starting with the information  i have.

I try to report to the local authorities without any luck ( i am living in the middle east).

The subspecies hacker suppose to be living in Russia ( Mosco or san Petersburg) at least with the information i have.


Where Should i go ??
Which country do you live in? Middle East can range from Dubai, where there are good and strict laws relating to technology to Afghanistan where you can only expect Taliban to reach Russia and find your hacker. Haha Jokes apart all of this depends really on which country you live and how common is crypto there, but still If the hacker is from Russia, the best local authorities would do is just find his location after that there won't be any progress, there is no chance that he would be punished and Don't even think of getting the funds back because chances are he must have spent it until now. I know you're hopeful but sad truth is that it's impossible to get the funds back even if you file numerous cases
sr. member
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Op you can report the fraud case to the authorities ( Interpol in this case that is if they will be interested) but you won't have any luck recovering your money. Which I believe recovery of your coins is your primary goal. Imho if you keep chasing you are only going to lose more money in the process. Bitcoin refund scams are popular these days.

It was happening from 2015.One of my friend from Indonesia had loss over 9 bitcoin by some hackers.The value of bitcoin in 2015 was 10 percentage for now.But still the bitcoin was stolen by the hackers.He tried all the way to recover.It's failed at th end. Hackers always learn new technology over other people.
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Hello
I was a victim of crypto currencies stealing, a hacker was able to log to my email account, and find the 12 words in my email for multiple wallets , then he/she/they transfer everything (37Eth, 20ETC, 0.07BTC, 20 BCH , 30000 Doge) rounded numbers. this was in Nov-2019. i really couldn't do anything at this time, asked some of my friends, everybody said no way to get it back

Now i have some details about the subspecies hacker , but it need an law enforcement authorities to investigate more starting with the information  i have.

I try to report to the local authorities without any luck ( i am living in the middle east).

The subspecies hacker suppose to be living in Russia ( Mosco or san Petersburg) at least with the information i have.


Where Should i go ??
First of all, you need to look at your country's criminal procedure code. Typically, the victim of a crime must report to the police at the scene of the crime. If the crime scene is unknown, then at the place of residence.
However, in this case, the situation is special for several reasons. Firstly, not all states have a cryptocurrency legalized, which means that the state has determined its legal status and recognizes it as an object that qualifies as property that is subject to protection. Secondly, such crimes are very difficult to investigate because they are associated with actions in many states, and therefore the interaction of law enforcement agencies of all these states is necessary. Such interaction is carried out if appropriate agreements have been concluded between them. Thirdly, about two years have passed and it will be very difficult to verify what happened. Therefore, there is almost no chance of a successful outcome of such an investigation.
hero member
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Where Should i go ??
First, this is why its really hard to trust up on storing your keys online specially on an email which can really be likely to be hacked if those log-in informations would leaked out and this is the culprit on why you do lost your coins.


Sad to say that it is really hard to catch up someone specially on this crypto world where everything could really be wiped off specially on someones traces.The thing that your friends were saying that there's no such thing
about recovering those funds.

Those are lost forever and theres no way on getting it back.Going with legal matters? You would surely be spending tons.. If i were you i would just simply move on even though its hard.
legendary
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this was in Nov-2019.
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Now i have some details about the subspecies hacker , but it need an law enforcement authorities to investigate more starting with the information  i have. I try to report to the local authorities without any luck ( i am living in the middle east).

You've been hacked for over two years and you didn't do a thing and then suddenly you come up with the details about your hacker and you know somebody even has the "credit card" of this hacker? I would have understood the email dress and details but why the cc, why would have he used it anywhore? This is a bit fishy and I do hope you weren't approached by one of those recovery con artists Charles-Tim mentioned that will claim they know everything and they will release the info for a few thousand dollars.

Judging by your other post, can it be that the coins have moved and hit a wallet you think it's an exchange?
If that's the case then you still might have some hope if the hacker was dumb enough and used its own name and bank account.

( Interpol in this case that is if they will be interested)
They'll ignore such reports unless local authorities or the police submits them:

And even if they do get forward the report they will just have it submitted to the Russian police, if that ignores it then the whole case is dead.
But other than that yeah, Interpol accepting this is his only chance, police units don't like going into international disputes for single cases, 37Eth sounds like a lot but when they will start the inquiry the value of the hack will be set at ~5000$ not what is worth now so..

Things don't look good for OP,  it all depends on the story but anyhow, what's there to lose in filing a claim and poke the ones that deal with it every week? Doing nothing will certainly not bring his coins back.
legendary
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I try to report to the local authorities without any luck
Just to be clear, you specifically contacted the cybercrime division [in your country], right?

This organization(s) refused to revel this information to me without legal order
Then work on it [with a lawyer].
- Don't get your hopes up.

( Interpol in this case that is if they will be interested)
They'll ignore such reports unless local authorities or the police submits them: If you need help [INTERPOL]
hero member
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Op you can report the fraud case to the authorities ( Interpol in this case that is if they will be interested) but you won't have any luck recovering your money. Which I believe recovery of your coins is your primary goal. Imho if you keep chasing you are only going to lose more money in the process. Bitcoin refund scams are popular these days.
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