Topic: I want to sue Google (Read 2005 times)
Just tell Apple that you want to sue Google and they might throw a few lawyers your way.
A sole man going against Google is like a mouse going against a truck. Drop it man, it's not worth it.
I wish you good luck dude..
You are all right. Thanx for all your comments. Hopefully the paint will dry the way I want
I are bound by the agreement at the bottom of every Google Service , which in part states:
(Ill sumarize - you can sue but have no grounds for recovery - You are using a free service that has no warranty to work or liability for its failure)
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Our Warranties and Disclaimers
We provide our Services using a commercially reasonable level of skill and care and we hope that you will enjoy using them. But there are certain things that we don’t promise about our Services.
OTHER THAN AS EXPRESSLY SET OUT IN THESE TERMS OR ADDITIONAL TERMS, NEITHER GOOGLE NOR ITS SUPPLIERS OR DISTRIBUTORS MAKE ANY SPECIFIC PROMISES ABOUT THE SERVICES. FOR EXAMPLE, WE DON’T MAKE ANY COMMITMENTS ABOUT THE CONTENT WITHIN THE SERVICES, THE SPECIFIC FUNCTION OF THE SERVICES, OR THEIR RELIABILITY, AVAILABILITY, OR ABILITY TO MEET YOUR NEEDS. WE PROVIDE THE SERVICES “AS IS”.
SOME JURISDICTIONS PROVIDE FOR CERTAIN WARRANTIES, LIKE THE IMPLIED WARRANTY OF MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NON-INFRINGEMENT. TO THE EXTENT PERMITTED BY LAW, WE EXCLUDE ALL WARRANTIES.
Liability for our Services
WHEN PERMITTED BY LAW, GOOGLE, AND GOOGLE’S SUPPLIERS AND DISTRIBUTORS, WILL NOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR LOST PROFITS, REVENUES, OR DATA, FINANCIAL LOSSES OR INDIRECT, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR PUNITIVE DAMAGES.
TO THE EXTENT PERMITTED BY LAW, THE TOTAL LIABILITY OF GOOGLE, AND ITS SUPPLIERS AND DISTRIBUTORS, FOR ANY CLAIM UNDER THESE TERMS, INCLUDING FOR ANY IMPLIED WARRANTIES, IS LIMITED TO THE AMOUNT YOU PAID US TO USE THE SERVICES (OR, IF WE CHOOSE, TO SUPPLYING YOU THE SERVICES AGAIN).
IN ALL CASES, GOOGLE, AND ITS SUPPLIERS AND DISTRIBUTORS, WILL NOT BE LIABLE FOR ANY LOSS OR DAMAGE THAT IS NOT REASONABLY FORESEEABLE.
(Ill sumarize - you can sue but have no grounds for recovery - You are using a free service that has no warranty to work or liability for its failure)
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Our Warranties and Disclaimers
We provide our Services using a commercially reasonable level of skill and care and we hope that you will enjoy using them. But there are certain things that we don’t promise about our Services.
OTHER THAN AS EXPRESSLY SET OUT IN THESE TERMS OR ADDITIONAL TERMS, NEITHER GOOGLE NOR ITS SUPPLIERS OR DISTRIBUTORS MAKE ANY SPECIFIC PROMISES ABOUT THE SERVICES. FOR EXAMPLE, WE DON’T MAKE ANY COMMITMENTS ABOUT THE CONTENT WITHIN THE SERVICES, THE SPECIFIC FUNCTION OF THE SERVICES, OR THEIR RELIABILITY, AVAILABILITY, OR ABILITY TO MEET YOUR NEEDS. WE PROVIDE THE SERVICES “AS IS”.
SOME JURISDICTIONS PROVIDE FOR CERTAIN WARRANTIES, LIKE THE IMPLIED WARRANTY OF MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NON-INFRINGEMENT. TO THE EXTENT PERMITTED BY LAW, WE EXCLUDE ALL WARRANTIES.
Liability for our Services
WHEN PERMITTED BY LAW, GOOGLE, AND GOOGLE’S SUPPLIERS AND DISTRIBUTORS, WILL NOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR LOST PROFITS, REVENUES, OR DATA, FINANCIAL LOSSES OR INDIRECT, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR PUNITIVE DAMAGES.
TO THE EXTENT PERMITTED BY LAW, THE TOTAL LIABILITY OF GOOGLE, AND ITS SUPPLIERS AND DISTRIBUTORS, FOR ANY CLAIM UNDER THESE TERMS, INCLUDING FOR ANY IMPLIED WARRANTIES, IS LIMITED TO THE AMOUNT YOU PAID US TO USE THE SERVICES (OR, IF WE CHOOSE, TO SUPPLYING YOU THE SERVICES AGAIN).
IN ALL CASES, GOOGLE, AND ITS SUPPLIERS AND DISTRIBUTORS, WILL NOT BE LIABLE FOR ANY LOSS OR DAMAGE THAT IS NOT REASONABLY FORESEEABLE.
Good luck suing google, going to need a lot of money for that adventure.
If you ever had a legitimate suit against google, it would probably cost 100M+ to fight it.
Honestly, it's your fault.
You do not use Google Authenticator without:
a) a paper backup of the QR code to activate it
b) a backup of the secret key
c) another OTP mechanism in case you lose your primary one (for example, you can have both Yubikey and Google Auth on Gox, and you can use any of them)
What would have happened if you lose your phone? Or if the phone died on you and became a brick?
I really do not get how you guys can have such important things without any kind of backup. It is really beyond me.
You do not use Google Authenticator without:
a) a paper backup of the QR code to activate it
b) a backup of the secret key
c) another OTP mechanism in case you lose your primary one (for example, you can have both Yubikey and Google Auth on Gox, and you can use any of them)
What would have happened if you lose your phone? Or if the phone died on you and became a brick?
I really do not get how you guys can have such important things without any kind of backup. It is really beyond me.
Exactly. It's super easy to keep backup keys for your authenticator. Why didn't you do this? Makes no sense, didn't you feel odd putting all your security access on having your phone there, available at all times?
What if you had lost your phone? What if you drop your phone in the toilet, sue the water? C'mon, for the children, please, chill on the litigation mania. You lost a week of trading and it was YOUR fault, live and learn.
As I said before. I was going to do that immediately but the app dropped the token instantly. I know I've made a mistake.
And that's why you will never be able to build a case against Google.
You made the mistake. Luckily enough, the damage is not too big.
How do you even know that it is Google and not Apple who is at fault here? Given that tight control, DRM, and lockdown that Apple applies to the iPhone, I would blame Apple first for any problems here not Google.
As for personal responsability if the device was rooted and running a Free Software operating system then yes the owner of the device should be the one that is reponsible, however in the case of an iPhone we have a device where the "owner" does not have complete control, this control lies with Apple, so if something goes wrong it is perfectly fair to blame Apple.
As for personal responsability if the device was rooted and running a Free Software operating system then yes the owner of the device should be the one that is reponsible, however in the case of an iPhone we have a device where the "owner" does not have complete control, this control lies with Apple, so if something goes wrong it is perfectly fair to blame Apple.
Honestly, it's your fault.
You do not use Google Authenticator without:
a) a paper backup of the QR code to activate it
b) a backup of the secret key
c) another OTP mechanism in case you lose your primary one (for example, you can have both Yubikey and Google Auth on Gox, and you can use any of them)
What would have happened if you lose your phone? Or if the phone died on you and became a brick?
I really do not get how you guys can have such important things without any kind of backup. It is really beyond me.
You do not use Google Authenticator without:
a) a paper backup of the QR code to activate it
b) a backup of the secret key
c) another OTP mechanism in case you lose your primary one (for example, you can have both Yubikey and Google Auth on Gox, and you can use any of them)
What would have happened if you lose your phone? Or if the phone died on you and became a brick?
I really do not get how you guys can have such important things without any kind of backup. It is really beyond me.
Exactly. It's super easy to keep backup keys for your authenticator. Why didn't you do this? Makes no sense, didn't you feel odd putting all your security access on having your phone there, available at all times?
What if you had lost your phone? What if you drop your phone in the toilet, sue the water? C'mon, for the children, please, chill on the litigation mania. You lost a week of trading and it was YOUR fault, live and learn.
As I said before. I was going to do that immediately but the app dropped the token instantly. I know I've made a mistake.
Honestly, it's your fault.
You do not use Google Authenticator without:
a) a paper backup of the QR code to activate it
b) a backup of the secret key
c) another OTP mechanism in case you lose your primary one (for example, you can have both Yubikey and Google Auth on Gox, and you can use any of them)
What would have happened if you lose your phone? Or if the phone died on you and became a brick?
I really do not get how you guys can have such important things without any kind of backup. It is really beyond me.
You do not use Google Authenticator without:
a) a paper backup of the QR code to activate it
b) a backup of the secret key
c) another OTP mechanism in case you lose your primary one (for example, you can have both Yubikey and Google Auth on Gox, and you can use any of them)
What would have happened if you lose your phone? Or if the phone died on you and became a brick?
I really do not get how you guys can have such important things without any kind of backup. It is really beyond me.
Exactly. It's super easy to keep backup keys for your authenticator. Why didn't you do this? Makes no sense, didn't you feel odd putting all your security access on having your phone there, available at all times?
What if you had lost your phone? What if you drop your phone in the toilet, sue the water? C'mon, for the children, please, chill on the litigation mania. You lost a week of trading and it was YOUR fault, live and learn.
not worth your time to sue over this ... and anyway look at the price of BTC it's about as exciting as watching paint dry
User error.
Risk management is hard.
Google should fix that bug, calculating what the bug lost you and asking politely for some btc reimbursement. Some google pr bitcoiner programmer might talk to you to settle out of court.
Risk management is hard.
Google should fix that bug, calculating what the bug lost you and asking politely for some btc reimbursement. Some google pr bitcoiner programmer might talk to you to settle out of court.
Honestly, it's your fault.
You do not use Google Authenticator without:
a) a paper backup of the QR code to activate it
b) a backup of the secret key
c) another OTP mechanism in case you lose your primary one (for example, you can have both Yubikey and Google Auth on Gox, and you can use any of them)
What would have happened if you lose your phone? Or if the phone died on you and became a brick?
I really do not get how you guys can have such important things without any kind of backup. It is really beyond me.
You do not use Google Authenticator without:
a) a paper backup of the QR code to activate it
b) a backup of the secret key
c) another OTP mechanism in case you lose your primary one (for example, you can have both Yubikey and Google Auth on Gox, and you can use any of them)
What would have happened if you lose your phone? Or if the phone died on you and became a brick?
I really do not get how you guys can have such important things without any kind of backup. It is really beyond me.
I was definitely going to do that because of the theft or anything but the app dropped the Token so quickly.
You do that immediately, otherwise you are screwed. In fact, as soon as you add a new "software authenticator", first thing you do is to print the details including the QR code and the key strings. If you do not have a printer, you copy by hand your private key string. You do this before pressing "SAVE".
Otherwise you are looking for big problems, Google will never be held liable for that. It's like saying thatGavin and the core developers of Bitcoin are liable and must pay if your wallet.dat is corrupt and you do not have any backup of it.
Honestly, it's your fault.
You do not use Google Authenticator without:
a) a paper backup of the QR code to activate it
b) a backup of the secret key
c) another OTP mechanism in case you lose your primary one (for example, you can have both Yubikey and Google Auth on Gox, and you can use any of them)
What would have happened if you lose your phone? Or if the phone died on you and became a brick?
I really do not get how you guys can have such important things without any kind of backup. It is really beyond me.
You do not use Google Authenticator without:
a) a paper backup of the QR code to activate it
b) a backup of the secret key
c) another OTP mechanism in case you lose your primary one (for example, you can have both Yubikey and Google Auth on Gox, and you can use any of them)
What would have happened if you lose your phone? Or if the phone died on you and became a brick?
I really do not get how you guys can have such important things without any kind of backup. It is really beyond me.
I was definitely going to do that because of the theft or anything but the app dropped the Token so quickly.
Honestly, it's your fault.
You do not use Google Authenticator without:
a) a paper backup of the QR code to activate it
b) a backup of the secret key
c) another OTP mechanism in case you lose your primary one (for example, you can have both Yubikey and Google Auth on Gox, and you can use any of them)
What would have happened if you lose your phone? Or if the phone died on you and became a brick?
I really do not get how you guys can have such important things without any kind of backup. It is really beyond me.
You do not use Google Authenticator without:
a) a paper backup of the QR code to activate it
b) a backup of the secret key
c) another OTP mechanism in case you lose your primary one (for example, you can have both Yubikey and Google Auth on Gox, and you can use any of them)
What would have happened if you lose your phone? Or if the phone died on you and became a brick?
I really do not get how you guys can have such important things without any kind of backup. It is really beyond me.
Guys, thank you for your posts. I just feel the right Google should somehow compensate this bug. They can't publish crappy apps and wait till users will catch all of them, especially not those security ones.
The thing is that I didn't have all my funds at MtGox just in BTCs but in dollars too. And I wish to have it in BTC only because I believe in it more.
Anyway the loss will be consequential very soon because of the arbitrage which I can't do between exchanges :/
Do you have any suggestions where to find some lawyer even for 0 chances?
The thing is that I didn't have all my funds at MtGox just in BTCs but in dollars too. And I wish to have it in BTC only because I believe in it more.
Anyway the loss will be consequential very soon because of the arbitrage which I can't do between exchanges :/
Do you have any suggestions where to find some lawyer even for 0 chances?
Sorry mate but you havent got a case and lawyers dont sue people for a 50/50 split either, especially Google.
You have practically zero chance.
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