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legendary
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I agree with Atlas...

Luke WTF?
donator
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Yeah, I now see Luke's intentions are fine. The solution is now to make a Bitcoin client with TOR built-in.

TOR doesn't need to be built-in. use "torify" or whatever. Why would bitcoin tie itself to a single privacy solution that can easily be outsourced?
hero member
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Matthew, you're too good for this. I hate to see you waste your energy on something so minuscule. So what if I am reactionary? Don't you have a girl to fuck and a magazine to print?


Hey, douchebag.

https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/966

This my friends is what power lust looks like. Mr. Luke Jr. wants your location easily traceable when using Bitcoins. He wants you to fear the powers that be when you deal in Bitcoins. Bitcoin users could then be controlled.

Let's keep a watchful eye on people like Mr. Luke and their proposals. With no vigilance, stuff like this could be merged.

Yeah, I now see Luke's intentions are fine. The solution is now to make a Bitcoin client with TOR built-in.

If you understand, why do you keep the title and OP the same, unless you're a self-important attention whore who wants desperately to make everyone as involved as possible in his every learning experience?

Learn to ask questions next time.

Also, FYI: I'm printing the magazine on the back of a girl I'm fucking while typing this. Like a boss.
Jon
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No Gods; No Masters; Only You
Yeah, I now see Luke's intentions are fine. The solution is now to make a Bitcoin client with TOR built-in.
donator
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It seems I am overreacting. I truly understand what this actually is now but I am still skeptical.

This is a reaction to people wanting to find out who is producing the blocks without transactions (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wonder-who-this-solominer-is-8862169-67634).

The node inherently knows where the blocks it receives come from. This patch is merely logging this info to debug.log. I made a similar one: http://pastebin.com/EgJAGnSj.

This in itself I find not worrying. Of course one could connect a node to as many other nodes as possible and find out where a block/tx is originating from (the node first broadcasting it). This is already done by many (for example blockchain.info, bitcoinwatch.com do this to determine source of blocks for statistics)

So yes, this might be a privacy-problem for some, albeit a small one (even if you're identified as the originator of some transaction, it's still unknown who the recipient is. Looking at a transaction, I cannot tell wether or not it goes to SR, for example). If you want to mask yourself as the originator of a block/tx you will have to resort to established IP-hiding measures (use proxy, i2p, tor). If I was, for example, the linode-thief, I would certainly do this.

EDIT: I dont assume luke-jr wants this pull-request pulled into bitcoin. He's just using github as a conventient place to publish his patch to interested parties.
Jon
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Matthew, you're too good for this. I hate to see you waste your energy on something so minuscule. So what if I am reactionary? Don't you have a girl to fuck and a magazine to print?
hero member
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Let's keep a watchful eye on people like Mr. Luke and their proposals. With no vigilance, stuff like this could be merged.

Stuff getting merged requires 51% of the Bitcoin world's hashing power to agree with it.

That's irrelevant if people don't know what's in the upgrade. That's why I am calling for awareness and NOT trusting people's word. We need to read in between the lines and not just the title.

Oh, Atlas. What would we do without you. Without your noble position in the community of calling out everything that creeps and has shadows, we would all be so ignorant on our own. Tell me though, do you even know how the Bitcoin client communicates with nodes? Can you give me a brief description of the protocol?

Can you let the adults work and cram the pseudo-intellectual self-important bullshit? Maybe start asking questions instead of making bogus claims all the time?

"I just wanted to ask, is this something you guys think we should worry about?" <--- Appropriate

"Be on the watch my minions! The time for reckoning is close at hand! Luke Jr (who has never actually made any commits to the Bitcoin protocol whatsoever) said something somewhere! Beware!" <--- Ignorant, like you.
Jon
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No Gods; No Masters; Only You
Let's keep a watchful eye on people like Mr. Luke and their proposals. With no vigilance, stuff like this could be merged.

Stuff getting merged requires 51% of the Bitcoin world's hashing power to agree with it.

That's irrelevant if people don't know what's in the upgrade. That's why I am calling for awareness and NOT trusting people's word. We need to read in between the lines and not just the title.
hero member
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Let's keep a watchful eye on people like Mr. Luke and their proposals. With no vigilance, stuff like this could be merged.

Stuff getting merged requires 51% of the Bitcoin world's hashing power to agree with it.

If anything, we should keep a watchful eye on you so that we can be there to take the photos of when you snap and start shooting people in a public square for your deranged and sociopathic reasons.
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OP, do you have a general problem with helping people record things they already know?
If Luke-Jr could find the pictures of thousands of naked teenagers on Facebook through obscure means, should those be made publicly available and easily viewed?

I see no benefit in making IPs easily accessible. I see it only as a means to instill fear and control.

Of course he should. Post-Tits.

Are you advocating child pornography? Be careful, Atlas might start a phone drive to support Parapain reporting to the Spanish authorities that you might be going to Pattaya.
Jon
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No Gods; No Masters; Only You
OP, do you have a general problem with helping people record things they already know?
If Luke-Jr could find the pictures of thousands of naked teenagers on Facebook through obscure means, should those be made publicly available and easily viewed?

I see no benefit in making IPs easily accessible. I see it only as a means to instill fear and control.

Of course he should. Post-Tits.

Sadly, for my sense of empathy, /b/ already does this.
sr. member
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OP, do you have a general problem with helping people record things they already know?
If Luke-Jr could find the pictures of thousands of naked teenagers on Facebook through obscure means, should those be made publicly available and easily viewed?

I see no benefit in making IPs easily accessible. I see it only as a means to instill fear and control.

Of course he should. Post-Tits.
Jon
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No Gods; No Masters; Only You
It seems I am overreacting. I truly understand what this actually is now but I am still skeptical.
hero member
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If Luke-Jr could find the pictures of thousands of naked teenagers on Facebook through obscure means, should those be made publicly available and easily viewed?



I see no benefit in making IPs easily accessible. I see it only as a means to instill fear.
And yet you use the DNS system by typing in a domain name instead of an IP address?

Jon
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No Gods; No Masters; Only You
OP, do you have a general problem with helping people record things they already know?
If Luke-Jr could find the pictures of thousands of naked teenagers on Facebook through obscure means, should those be made publicly available and easily viewed?

I see no benefit in making IPs easily accessible. I see it only as a means to instill fear and control.
legendary
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Strength in numbers
OP, do you have a general problem with helping people record things they already know?
Jon
donator
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No Gods; No Masters; Only You
https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/966

This my friends is what power lust looks like. Mr. Luke Jr. wants your location easily traceable when using Bitcoins. He wants you to fear the powers that be when you deal in Bitcoins. Bitcoin users could then be controlled.

Let's keep a watchful eye on people like Mr. Luke and their proposals. With no vigilance, stuff like this could be merged.

You advocate a surveillance of Luke Jr. because he advocates surveillance of you? Interesting.  What is it like living inside your hypocritical mind, Atlas?

Being audited by the IRS because your IP was on a compromised node is far more severe than stalking Mr. Luke-Jr's merge requests.

One entails costly paperwork and possibly bankruptcy. The other entails minor social consequences.

So you admit that when push comes to shove, your philosophy is dropped at the door and you will advocate violence and coercion?

I have no philosophy. I just want privacy to be inherent in Bitcoin.

Anyways, you're being retarded, so no fucks are given, Matthew.
hero member
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Sheesh, he's talking about recording info he already has access to and making it easy for other's to do the same right? Don't send blocks or tx from your own IP if you don't want them to be connected.

+1

Atlas is just fear mongering to suit the needs of his deranged and self-important, spergy existence.

"Look at me! Look at me! I have a mouth hole! When can I have my Nobel Peace Prize for rescuing Bitcoin from the people who helped make it while I, a talentless fuckwitt, just stood by and gawked giving pseudo intellectual inexperienced opinons?"
legendary
Activity: 1246
Merit: 1016
Strength in numbers
Sheesh, he's talking about recording info he already has access to and making it easy for other's to do the same right? Don't send blocks or tx from your own IP if you don't want them to be connected.
hero member
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https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/966

This my friends is what power lust looks like. Mr. Luke Jr. wants your location easily traceable when using Bitcoins. He wants you to fear the powers that be when you deal in Bitcoins. Bitcoin users could then be controlled.

Let's keep a watchful eye on people like Mr. Luke and their proposals. With no vigilance, stuff like this could be merged.

You advocate a surveillance of Luke Jr. because he advocates surveillance of you? Interesting.  What is it like living inside your hypocritical mind, Atlas?

Being audited by the IRS because your IP was on a compromised node is far more severe than stalking Mr. Luke-Jr's merge requests.

One entails costly paperwork and possibly bankruptcy. The other entails minor social consequences.

So you admit that when push comes to shove, your philosophy is dropped at the door and you will advocate violence and coercion?

The IRS's involvement in anything you do is also a social consequence.
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