I was holding on to Ledger and I got robbed - page 2.

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Quote from: Jer0mFR on May 11, 2024, 07:48:28 AM

Thank you for your answers. I also think the police won't do anything and I won't be able to get anything back.

Which secure BTC Wallet do you recommend for me to hold?

I heard about 25th words of 100 characters and multi sign.

I thought about Tails live USB which has electrum in wallet.

you still haven't told us the addy of your hacker

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Quote from: Jer0mFR on May 11, 2024, 07:48:28 AM

I also think the police won't do anything

Surely! As soon as they need taxes, they are right there, but when looking for stolen cryptocurrencies, they can’t do anything.

Contact them anyway. Let them work off their salary, which they receive from your taxes.

Quote from: Jer0mFR on May 11, 2024, 07:48:28 AM

Which secure BTC Wallet do you recommend for me to hold?

It will not be too easy to answer your question in a nutshell. Better take a look at this section Hardware wallets and read the discussions about various hardware wallets yourself.

Quote from: Jer0mFR on May 11, 2024, 07:48:28 AM

I heard about 25th words of 100 characters and multi sign.

The 25th word is mentioned in the Trezor’s blog. By the way, you can pay attention to their hardware wallets.

Quote from: Jer0mFR on May 11, 2024, 07:48:28 AM

I thought about Tails live USB which has electrum in wallet.

Having a hardware wallet will still be a more reliable solution. You can combine "Tails live USB which has electrum in wallet" + hardware wallet.

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Quote from: sokani on May 11, 2024, 07:44:26 AM

Are you for real mate? Hardware wallets are indeed very safe but if you fail to adhere to simple healthy wallet practices, you could lose your funds.

Yes, I'm real for sure mate, I will say once again that I don't recommend hardware wallets and neither I use those myself. I believe open-source software wallets like Electrum are 10x better than hardware wallets.

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Reading your first posts and the response from others, I am sure you exposed your seed and someone stole the funds. It must be someone who is close to you and he did not have good experience. He discovered different wallets and moved the funds. Sorry for you loss.

Quote from: Jer0mFR on May 11, 2024, 07:48:28 AM

Which secure BTC Wallet do you recommend for me to hold?

It still a hardware wallet. I do not recommend ledger anymore.There are many other companies who are popular. Buy one that is convenient for you. But most importantly, do not type any of the seed on a digital device. Take a pen and paper or punch the letters on a metal sheet to make the seed fireproof but never write it in a digital device which has internet connection.

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Quote from: Jer0mFR on May 11, 2024, 07:48:28 AM

Thank you for your answers. I also think the police won't do anything and I won't be able to get anything back.
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Its not so much that they (police) doesn't want to do anything, but its more about not being able to do much. The only thing that you can do is to contact them, report the theft and then wait for police to contact Binance. But yeah, you can bascially forget ever getting your money back.

Quote from: Jer0mFR on May 11, 2024, 07:48:28 AM

Which secure BTC Wallet do you recommend for me to hold?

Passport is a good bitcoin only hardware wallet, and if you plan to hold some other crypto then look into one of Trezor models. But most importantly, be more careful when storing your seed phrase as that's how you (most probably) lost your crypto in the first place.

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Quote from: Jer0mFR on May 11, 2024, 07:48:28 AM

Thank you for your answers. I also think the police won't do anything and I won't be able to get anything back.

Which secure BTC Wallet do you recommend for me to hold?

I heard about 25th words of 100 characters and multi sign.

I thought about Tails live USB which has electrum in wallet.

Hardware wallet is still the best. The problem is not the wallet you are using but rather the device which you connected your hardware wallet is probably infected by a malware. No wallet can escape with that kind of security threat so make sure to have a device with proper security before you start creating any wallet or else you will suffer the same fate.

It’s just hard to believe that hardware wallet can be hacked via online attack unless you giveaway the seedphrase and pin code of your hardware wallet

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It's quite unfortunate that you had health issues which made you abandon crypto for while, I personally believe that your long absence from your ledger and your computer must have been the reason your crypto was stolen.
And if this doesnt really bother you, I would advice you check with your family members, or just about anyone who had access to your computer and possibly knew where you kept your ledger, this is because, a thief from outside can't possibly get hold of your ledger private keys or seed phrase without you giving the consent either by connecting to a malicious app and signing a transaction there, or by you typing your private key or seed phrase into a phishing site.

If you asked me, I did say that some one very close to you did this to you while you were away, absent minded in the hospital maybe.
And from the screenshot you shared, those coins were moved far back 2022, this is 2 years ago, you taking steps to recover the funds now or to catch the thief is no longer feasible if you ask me, if possible, I would advice you just move on, even though I understand this must be very difficult for you, but you have no other choice other than to just move on.

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Quote from: Pmalek on May 11, 2024, 07:43:23 AM

The timeline of the transactions is unusual. Your dogecoin was transferred out on 4 Jan. Then, the thief took a break until the next morning when the Litecoin was moved. They then took another break of 6 hours before moving some more coins. It's very weird. Normally, a thief would look to take everything at once. But here, more than 24 hours passed between the first and last transaction that is visible on the screenshot.

Not only that, but the same Ethereum address was used to withdrawal ETH and Livepeer token. The same thing happened to Dogecoin, so I do not think that hacker has a deep knowledge about cryptocurrencies and I am sure that will use his personal data to create a Binance account.

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Thank you for your answers. I also think the police won't do anything and I won't be able to get anything back.

Which secure BTC Wallet do you recommend for me to hold?

I heard about 25th words of 100 characters and multi sign.

I thought about Tails live USB which has electrum in wallet.

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Quote from: SamReomo on May 11, 2024, 07:12:47 AM

That's why I never suggest anyone to go with Hardware wallets because I find them of no use and anyone who thinks their funds are safe in those wallets should re-think about that.

Are you for real mate? Hardware wallets are indeed very safe but if you fail to adhere to simple healthy wallet practices, you could lose your funds. I quite understand the security risks involved in using a ledger hardware device, but since op didn't give us much info it could be that he stored his seed phrase electronically and that's how his funds was stolen or he bought the hardware device from an unauthorized dealer.

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Did anyone know your PIN or your seed or the locations of where to find one or the other?
Who else has access to your computer you used to connect your Ledger wallet to?
Did you ever enter your seed somewhere online or store it in a digital medium?

The timeline of the transactions is unusual. Your dogecoin was transferred out on 4 Jan. Then, the thief took a break until the next morning when the Litecoin was moved. They then took another break of 6 hours before moving some more coins. It's very weird. Normally, a thief would look to take everything at once. But here, more than 24 hours passed between the first and last transaction that is visible on the screenshot.

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You funds are gone and you can't do anything to recover those funds now. That's why I never suggest anyone to go with Hardware wallets because I find them of no use and anyone who thinks their funds are safe in those wallets should re-think about that.

I'm sorry OP, it has been two years when your funds are gone and it's literally impossible to do anything now. Even if your funds where stolen a few days ago it would still be close to impossible to recover the funds again unless the scammer would return those, but that's not possible at all because the scammers don't care about others, they only care about themselves.

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Quote from: Jer0mFR on May 11, 2024, 05:09:24 AM

Good morning

I have hold crypto on my nano s ledger since 2017. I have not validated a transaction since 2019 and I noticed a few days ago that my seed ledger was emptied.

Between 2019 and 2023 I had health problems, so I abandoned crypto and my computer.

My ETH, LTC and Dogecoin were stolen.

Ever since the forum had observed that there is no privacy with the use of ledger hardware wallet, whereby their source code has been a close one, it have been very difficult for you to see someone of reputable member of this forum recommending this same ledger wallet for use because of its privacy being compromised, so going by your experience, we may not have to have any reason in doubting about what you have already said knowing well that this is all we have already suspected about them and they cannot be trusted in that regard of being an open source anymore.

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Quote from: Jer0mFR on May 11, 2024, 05:09:24 AM

Good morning

I have hold crypto on my nano s ledger since 2017. I have not validated a transaction since 2019 and I noticed a few days ago that my seed ledger was emptied.

Between 2019 and 2023 I had health problems, so I abandoned crypto and my computer.

My ETH, LTC and Dogecoin were stolen.

I contacted Ledger and there is nothing they can do. They told me to file a complaint.

I followed the ETH on etherscan and it happened on an unknown wallet then it was transferred to Binance immediately. I contacted Binance and they told me the account is under surveillance but it won't let me communicate with the person. They told me to lose complaint too.

I read on Google that people managed to communicate via a chat on etherscan with thieves. I created an account but couldn't find the chat function.

I'm French, sorry if my English is bad

Sorry to hear about your loss!

It's been two years since your wallet was emptied by a hacker and unfortunately, there's nothing that can be done now.. The only option left for you now is to file a police complaint and let them look into this theft. I doubt you will be able to get back the cryptocurrencies even if the police can track the hacker. The problem with a ledger wallet is that somehow these hackers can get access to your wallet through the backup seed phrases even if you have only once connected your wallet to the internet. You are not alone who has come across such a theft, if you do a Google search you will find a lot of articles about it. There was a time when everyone used to buy and recommend ledger wallets as of now it is not recommended anymore.

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There is a time interval between each transaction. If your wallet is hacked, the hacker will try to empty it quickly, as it reduces the possibility of you paying attention to your wallet and trying to RBF old transactions before confirming them. Therefore, I think that someone knew your wallet seed, whether it was your friend or a relative.

Fill in the police information and ask them to contact Binance to disclose the owner of the account, it may be someone you know.

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Quote from: Jer0mFR on May 11, 2024, 05:09:24 AM

Good morning

I have hold crypto on my nano s ledger since 2017. I have not validated a transaction since 2019 and I noticed a few days ago that my seed ledger was emptied.

Between 2019 and 2023 I had health problems, so I abandoned crypto and my computer.

My ETH, LTC and Dogecoin were stolen.

https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2024/19/6/1715422048-bitcointalk.png

I contacted Ledger and there is nothing they can do. They told me to file a complaint.

I followed the ETH on etherscan and it happened on an unknown wallet then it was transferred to Binance immediately. I contacted Binance and they told me the account is under surveillance but it won't let me communicate with the person. They told me to lose complaint too.

I read on Google that people managed to communicate via a chat on etherscan with thieves. I created an account but couldn't find the chat function.

I'm French, sorry if my English is bad

only thing you can do is what binance told you: file a police report.
they won't interfere without it.
but... good luck getting the cops to do actual work on this.
about binance, you should ask them if your hacker has funds on their platform. if so, insist that they block the person's account... because if he/she withdraws, well your funds are gone.
care to share the addy of your hacker? maybe we can find something.
As for etherscan, you got two options. you can leave a comment under the address or you can send the hacker a tx with a message in it. just google how to do that. a search like "how to send a message in a blockchain transaction" should get you some results. but the odds of him/her reading that message are low. another thing you can do is send a token to him, one with a name that will get his attention, something like "SENDMONEYBACKPLEASE". again, look up how to create a token, it's not that hard

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Quote from: Jer0mFR on May 11, 2024, 05:09:24 AM

Good morning

I have hold crypto on my nano s ledger since 2017. I have not validated a transaction since 2019 and I noticed a few days ago that my seed ledger was emptied.

Between 2019 and 2023 I had health problems, so I abandoned crypto and my computer.

My ETH, LTC and Dogecoin were stolen.

I contacted Ledger and there is nothing they can do. They told me to file a complaint.

I followed the ETH on etherscan and it happened on an unknown wallet then it was transferred to Binance immediately. I contacted Binance and they told me the account is under surveillance but it won't let me communicate with the person. They told me to lose complaint too.

I read on Google that people managed to communicate via a chat on etherscan with thieves. I created an account but couldn't find the chat function.

I'm French, sorry if my English is bad

It's quite a bad experience, for which I would like to say, 'sorry for your loss.' Observing the time frame when those transactions occurred, it's evident that you weren't active at that time, suggesting that someone else close to you may have tampered with your wallet during that period.

What surprises me now is why the person behind this hasn't spent the funds since 2022. The whole story seems a little shaky. As none of us here work with Binance, it's best to follow their instructions while they monitor the current holding wallet.

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Quote from: Jer0mFR on May 11, 2024, 05:09:24 AM

I have hold crypto on my nano s ledger since 2017. I have not validated a transaction since 2019 and I noticed a few days ago that my seed ledger was emptied.

It looks the funds were moved in the year 2022 and now we are in 2024 that mean's it's gone buddy.

Quote from: Jer0mFR on May 11, 2024, 05:09:24 AM

I followed the ETH on etherscan and it happened on an unknown wallet then it was transferred to Binance immediately. I contacted Binance and they told me the account is under surveillance but it won't let me communicate with the person. They told me to lose complaint too.

If we are talking about something that happened recently like a day or two but two years means it's long gone and these steps don't make any difference.

But I wonder why the user who got access to your wallet waited so long to drain the wallet.

Because you said you didn't access it since 2019 while the wallet drain happened in 2022.

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Good morning

I have hold crypto on my nano s ledger since 2017. I have not validated a transaction since 2019 and I noticed a few days ago that my seed ledger was emptied.

Between 2019 and 2023 I had health problems, so I abandoned crypto and my computer.

My ETH, LTC and Dogecoin were stolen.

I contacted Ledger and there is nothing they can do. They told me to file a complaint.

I followed the ETH on etherscan and it happened on an unknown wallet then it was transferred to Binance immediately. I contacted Binance and they told me the account is under surveillance but it won't let me communicate with the person. They told me to lose complaint too.

I read on Google that people managed to communicate via a chat on etherscan with thieves. I created an account but couldn't find the chat function.

I'm French, sorry if my English is bad

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