I was just banned from BFL forums - page 2.

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Quote from: joae1975 on May 25, 2013, 10:48:53 AM

Vapourminer, your pc days you're getting 5+ Gh/s, what's your mining pool say you're getting? And how many BTC's per day are you getting? Thanks!

LOL BTC a day.......
work it out Just over $25 a day maybe about 0.2 BTC, the days of getting a full BTC for <10GH/s are long gone......

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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?

Quote from: joae1975 on May 25, 2013, 10:48:53 AM

Vapourminer, your pc days you're getting 5+ Gh/s, what's your mining pool say you're getting? And how many BTC's per day are you getting? Thanks!

I didnt check when it was running solo, it normally runs on my desktop along with a 6870 that gives around 300Mh/s. pool says 5.7 GH/s for that worker, so it tracks.

dunno how many btc just the jally gets, I run a bfl fpga (870 MH/s ave), 5830 (330 MH/s), the jally and a 6870 (300MH/s). pool says 0.242 btc in the last 24 hrs, but Ive turned it on and off a few times playing around with it

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Vapourminer, your pc days you're getting 5+ Gh/s, what's your mining pool say you're getting? And how many BTC's per day are you getting? Thanks!

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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?

Quote from: dataphile on May 25, 2013, 12:34:10 AM

Quote from: vapourminer on May 24, 2013, 06:04:31 PM

Quote from: dairy100 on May 24, 2013, 12:35:24 PM

"supposedly' they shipped all jalapeno orders for june 23 to 25th on 3 days ago. What isn't clear is if this was another 'burp' like a month ago when they shipped out samples to testers and important people or actually for real customers.

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/

I received my jally 5/23 (ordered 6/24/12) and Im a nobody.

so at least they are shipping to regular folks now.

be interesting to see how well they can keep it up.

Is there any chance you could be bothered to post a picture of your unit with a timestamp?

Just for those of us wearing tinfoil hats.

sure. here ya go. sorry for pic qaulity,

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rather blurry overview

slightly better overview

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Quote from: razorfishsl on May 24, 2013, 08:55:55 PM

Don't worry....

I know where you can get new kit Really really cheap and they won't give a shit about what you say.....

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=18533906357&ali_refid=a3_430009_1006:1104313814:6::fece26294d939db05b863e7a9b9e8adc&ali_trackid=1_fece26294d939db05b863e7a9b9e8adc

LOL anyone recognize the pictures......

If I could only read Chinese.

Yo! Just file a small claims suit. It's not that hard.

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Quote from: vapourminer on May 24, 2013, 06:04:31 PM

Quote from: dairy100 on May 24, 2013, 12:35:24 PM

"supposedly' they shipped all jalapeno orders for june 23 to 25th on 3 days ago. What isn't clear is if this was another 'burp' like a month ago when they shipped out samples to testers and important people or actually for real customers.

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/

I received my jally 5/23 (ordered 6/24/12) and Im a nobody.

so at least they are shipping to regular folks now.

be interesting to see how well they can keep it up.

wow this is very much suprising, are they rly doing deliveries now?

But still only jalas^^

regards

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Quote from: vapourminer on May 24, 2013, 06:04:31 PM

Quote from: dairy100 on May 24, 2013, 12:35:24 PM

"supposedly' they shipped all jalapeno orders for june 23 to 25th on 3 days ago. What isn't clear is if this was another 'burp' like a month ago when they shipped out samples to testers and important people or actually for real customers.

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/

I received my jally 5/23 (ordered 6/24/12) and Im a nobody.

so at least they are shipping to regular folks now.

be interesting to see how well they can keep it up.

Is there any chance you could be bothered to post a picture of your unit with a timestamp?

Just for those of us wearing tinfoil hats.

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Don't worry....

I know where you can get new kit Really really cheap and they won't give a shit about what you say.....

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=18533906357&ali_refid=a3_430009_1006:1104313814:6::fece26294d939db05b863e7a9b9e8adc&ali_trackid=1_fece26294d939db05b863e7a9b9e8adc

LOL anyone recognize the pictures......

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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?

Quote from: dairy100 on May 24, 2013, 12:35:24 PM

"supposedly' they shipped all jalapeno orders for june 23 to 25th on 3 days ago. What isn't clear is if this was another 'burp' like a month ago when they shipped out samples to testers and important people or actually for real customers.

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/

I received my jally 5/23 (ordered 6/24/12) and Im a nobody.

so at least they are shipping to regular folks now.

be interesting to see how well they can keep it up.

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Quote from: dairy100 on May 24, 2013, 12:35:24 PM

"supposedly' they shipped all jalapeno orders for june 23 to 25th on 3 days ago. What isn't clear is if this was another 'burp' like a month ago when they shipped out samples to testers and important people or actually for real customers.

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/

Who knows, there is no reason to trust anything they say as they have only put out lie after lie about their shipping timetables.

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"supposedly' they shipped all jalapeno orders for june 23 to 25th on 3 days ago. What isn't clear is if this was another 'burp' like a month ago when they shipped out samples to testers and important people or actually for real customers.

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/

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Quote from: dairy100 on May 24, 2013, 12:08:49 PM

We are expecting several thousand chips next week from our new packaging facility and expect to start shipping all product lines next week.

How is this going to be any different than the thousands of chips they were supposed to receive last week ? The week prior ? The month prior ? Two months prior ?

I find this very difficult to believe. Why would they fire their vocal customers when they are so imminently close to shipping (unless it was done for purely spiteful reasons; do you want to do business with a company like that ?)

Something doesn't add up.

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Here's some fun stuff. They even claim that they'll soon have product on the shelf for immediate shipment...

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/692-bfl-asic-status-3.html We are expecting several thousand chips next week from our new packaging facility and expect to start shipping all product lines next week. Beyond that, we will be receiving thousands of chips per week at an ever increasing pace between now and until all of the remaining 68 wafers are used up. We have additional wafers on order and they should be ready about the time we've used up all 68 wafers should we need them. Soon after, we hope to have product on the shelf for immediate shipment, depending on how many orders come in between now and when we catch up the backlog.

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Quote from: dairy100 on May 24, 2013, 11:57:44 AM

a few days ago bfl posted a message on their forums saying they're finally starting to ship 'more' jalapeno units. lol

Yeah they say lots of things. Its not about getting a unit for me, it is about denying them an order for their unacceptible business practices.

I would rather give my money to an ASIC seller that deserves to be funded. BFL does not.

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a few days ago bfl posted a message on their forums saying they're finally starting to ship 'more' jalapeno units. lol

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Refund From BF Labs Inc. Pending Until May 29, 2013

On my PayPal

It appears I shall indeed get my money back soon

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Quote from: Operatr on May 23, 2013, 07:18:59 PM

Really it is true, BBB and other agencies can't really do squat. Best course is to kill them at the source: spread the word about their epic scam and try to keep any new money from reaching them from gullible customers like myself. Granted, all of the information wasn't there when I ordered like many. If I had known their CEO was a scammer from the jump I never would have sent them anything.

Therein lies the rub. If I knew Butterfly Labs had such a shady history, I never would have involved myself with them in the first place Sad

It seemed silly, at the time, to consider thinking about canceling the order when they were supposed to ship back in October... November... December... January... February... March... April...

I'm all for second chances and redemption, but the company seems rotten to the core from everything we've witnessed over the last year.

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I bet if Butterflylabs only knew what kind of ridiculous shit people would pull because they cant wait for their magical money printing machine to get here fast enough they would have charged twice as much. Not charging twice as much is most likely their only regret.

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Quote from: pikeadz on May 23, 2013, 06:53:27 PM

Quote from: Operatr on May 23, 2013, 02:10:23 PM

Quote from: glitch003 on May 23, 2013, 01:54:55 PM

Maybe consider filing an FTC complaint as well.

This may be of interest to you: http://business.ftc.gov/documents/alt051-selling-internet-prompt-delivery-rules

Complaint form: https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/

I will happily do so, might stop by the BBB as well.

I just tried filing a resolution with PayPal but it was instantly closed, too long since the initial transaction I guess?

So BFL has my money and apparently won't give it back. I will give it some more time but I might just be screwed here.

BBB is a good start, but they are pretty much a powerless entity if the company chooses to ignore your complaint. An approach with more bite would be to notify your state's attorney general's office if you are in the USA. Charge back your credit card immediately. Do not mess with paypal or useless refund requests. Your credit card is there to protect you, as much as we all hate the big banks. That is their job. If that fails, then, consult with a lawyer on a contingency basis (they don't make a dime unless you win, and then they take a percentage) to sue them for the amount they owe you. They will consider things you haven't even dreamed of beyond what you are owed, like lost earnings and punitive damages for bad faith. The letter from the attorney alone should be enough to get your refund, but you may be able to get far more.

Edit: ah nevermind I see you got refunded. I will leave this up for anyone else going through the same thing though.

Well, they say I will be refunded, I have to give them the benefit of the doubt that within 5 days my money will return since I have no choice.

Really it is true, BBB and other agencies can't really do squat. Best course is to kill them at the source: spread the word about their epic scam and try to keep any new money from reaching them from gullible customers like myself. Granted, all of the information wasn't there when I ordered like many. If I had known their CEO was a scammer from the jump I never would have sent them anything.

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