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Quote from: dkbit98 on October 28, 2022, 09:44:58 AM

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Quote from: 1miau on October 28, 2022, 06:21:48 PM

Shitposters should have a very hard time here and JollyGood is giving them a hard time.

Doesn't matter, it's wrong to leave negative feedback for shitposting:

Quote from: theymos on January 30, 2020, 04:13:15 PM

The system is for handling trade risk, not for flagging people for good/bad posts/personalities/ideas.

Instead of tagging them, the correct route is to report their posts (and eventually get them banned). That's how it should be handled.

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JollyGood 2022-10-28 Reference Probably an alt-account of the Rock Trading CFO (eliale https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/eliale-35172)

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Quote from: 1miau on October 28, 2022, 06:21:48 PM

As with Lauda, there comes a point where a DT member's wrongly-given negative trust starts to outweigh all the correct ones, and when that happens there's a dilemma: Does the DT community vote with their trust inclusions/exclusions to remove that DT member (and in the process reduce the weight of all the good feedbacks) or do they just allow the DT member to continue to abuse or wrongly use the trust system?

I made the decision a while back to cast my vote against JollyGood, because it seemed like he wasn't getting the message and I don't believe in keeping a person on the DT list no matter how many good feedbacks they have if they're misusing the trust system. Obviously I was in the minority, but I'd suggest to JollyGood that he review his trust page and delete all those feedbacks that were left because of a person's posting habits or anything not genuinely related to trustworthiness. I had to do that when the merit system came about, and it was tedious--but I did it anyway because community standards changed.

Anyway, good for you OP. JollyGood is at least open to rethinking things. Many members are not.

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Quote from: 1miau on October 28, 2022, 06:21:48 PM

Well, we can't deny that JollyGood is doing a very good job in tagging abusers of all sorts and discouraging shitposting effectively. The feedbacks left by JollyGood are highly valuable, even if a few of them are indeed controversial.
Shitposters should have a very hard time here and JollyGood is giving them a hard time.
Personally, I would be in favor that an overwhelming number of DT members should be given the opportunity to remove a single DT feedback on a particular account. Like "voting" to exclude these single feedbacks from being shown as Default Trust.
LoyceV suggested that some time ago here.
That way, the community could also perform "elections", which old feedbacks from inactive accounts are no longer valid, like several negative trusts on sportsbet.io's account for example.

I can imagine that
- at least 10 DT members supporting the removal
and
- no more than 1 DT member opposing the removal
could be a good start.
These "elections" could also be based on DT strenth, too.

If theymos can come up with a reliable way to do this, I would support it. This would help further decentralize the Default Trust system and members will have more control over who and what they trust. As the saying goes, "there are a few bad apples in every bunch". But that doesn't mean I want to throw away the whole basket because of it.

Quote from: 1miau on October 28, 2022, 06:21:48 PM

And I'm sure that if OP really admits his mistake and improves, JollyGood will appreciate it:

I agree that the neutral tag is more appropriate here and JollyGood has already stated that he will revise the negative rating in this case.

Quote from: JollyGood on October 28, 2022, 09:35:55 AM

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Moving forward, in this particular matter you do actually have a case therefore the tag will be revised to neutral.

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Quote from: dbc23 on October 28, 2022, 12:48:22 PM

Quote from: JollyGood on February 26, 2022, 09:37:25 AM

I will revisit this issue in 3 months time to remove or revise my trust depending on the quality of your posting. Thank you.

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Quote from: JollyGood on October 28, 2022, 09:35:55 AM

>>snip<<

Do the right things, and also try to heed pieces of advice from different members. When you see your name come up in the reputation board every passing week or month, then maybe there's something you need to change about you and not the people around you.

I have been here long enough to see how such tales end.

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Thanks to everyone who showed concern. I will like to ask JollyGood who is a DT member to single out another post besides this where I forecasted an old match|. I won't bring this up here again what ever JollyGood feels is best as a judgement I will have to leave with it.

This the first Pm I got from Jolly after a Pmed the user.

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Before the games were played today, Liverpool held a +4 goal difference advantage over Manchester City and when they went top of the table with a 0-1 win at Newcastle it increased to +5 but Manchester City thrashed Leeds 0-4 which means it is down to just +1 now.

This one point difference will keep going on and on till the end of the season. As it stands both Liverpool and Manchester city are strongly eyeing both the championships league and premier league title and how will it be if either of the two secures both. City lead against Leeds city brought them back to the top else they would have been 4 points behind Liverpool

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Quote from: dbc23 on October 27, 2022, 06:01:08 PM

It should be fare enough for JollyGood to allow my messages go through. It's eight months and counting and after few months of chat with him on the negative trust I got I was blocked and can't send a message across to him.

Good luck with trying to talk with him Roll Eyes

I am not going to judge your post history and I guess it could be better, but for me this is one more case of him abusing trust system.
I would understand if he gave you neutral feedback and ignored you, and I am not exactly sure what he is trying to achieve with this behavior, but he is not helping the forum at all.

Quote from: yahoo62278 on October 27, 2022, 11:51:21 PM

I do not agree with users being tagged for their posting because they're in a signature campaign. I notice a bunch of neutrals from applicants, and I check they're trust to see that they're tagged as spammers. I think that is sufficient enough and a decent manager will take a look and make a decision based on their recent post history.
@OP I'll sent a pm to Jolly and ask him to take a look here, but that doesn't guarantee he will.

TrollyBad is borderline crazy with giving negative feedback like Halloween candies, and somebody finally needs to stop him and remove him from Default Trust.
Question is why are most other DT members still quiet and they are not reacting about this repeated behavior?!
If something happens multiple times than it's abuse, and people get arrested for that in real life.

Are you seeing this? And you still trust this guy?!
Something is seriously wrong here, and this is turning into Default Troll system.

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JollyGood's judgement is Trusted by:
1. Vod (Trust: +27 / =2 / -1) (1934 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. DiamondCardz (Trust: +8 / =0 / -0) (98 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
3. peloso (Trust: +1 / =3 / -5) (186 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
4. Coinfan (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (117 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
6. digit (Trust: neutral) (9 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
7. Timelord2067 (Trust: +15 / =10 / -1) (DT1 (-2) 953 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
8. jeremypwr (Trust: +25 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (11) 2332 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
9. allyouracid (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (271 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
10. stompix (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (6) 3741 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
11. Avirunes (Trust: +12 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (12) 420 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
12. dopey (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (14 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
13. Gianluca95 (Trust: +6 / =1 / -0) (181 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
14. SiNeReiNZzz (Trust: +4 / =2 / -0) (792 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
15. DaveF (Trust: +32 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (11) 3752 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
16. owlcatz (Trust: +48 / =0 / -2) (647 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
17. examplens (Trust: +4 / =4 / -0) (DT1! (16) 1037 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
18. nutildah (Trust: +15 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (19) 4637 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
19. thandie (Trust: neutral) (360 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
20. LFC_Bitcoin (Trust: +30 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (13) 6348 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
21. s0nix (Trust: neutral) (11 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
22. TwitchySeal (Trust: +6 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (5) 1263 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
23. vlom (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (113 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
24. JaredKaragen (Trust: neutral) (165 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
25. Jemzx00 (Trust: +1 / =1 / -0) (37 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
26. Slow death (Trust: +3 / =2 / -0) (540 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
27. IconFirm (Trust: +1 / =0 / -1) (74 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
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29. blurryeyed (Trust: +1 / =4 / -4) (20 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
30. kurian (Trust: neutral) (2 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
31. igehhh (Trust: +6 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (5) 1048 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
32. CryptopreneurBrainboss (Trust: +15 / =0 / -0) (3102 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
33. mosprognoz (Trust: +4 / =1 / -1) (177 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
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40. witcher_sense (Trust: +16 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (16) 3331 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
41. darcon_pr (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
42. The Cryptovator (Trust: +19 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (23) 2029 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
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48. zasad@ (Trust: +3 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (7) 3426 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
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51. FatFork (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (6) 1513 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
52. decodx (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (532 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
53. CryptoYar (Trust: neutral) (593 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
54. villain_Mr.Burns (Trust: +0 / =2 / -3) (25 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
55. PaperWallet (Trust: +0 / =1 / -2) (21 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
56. wagmi (Trust: neutral) (75 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

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@OP

This will be probably be my first and only post here therefore please read carefully.

I have no need to receive PMs from you or any other user on my ignore list therefore I blocked you and (to the best of my knowledge) them all. As I do with many users that spam threads or make nonsensical posts in order to increase post count to build up accounts or earn signature campaign fees or simply troll and seek attention, I added you to my ignore list. Still, having said that I offer my apologies for not replying here earlier.

Moving forward, in this particular matter you do actually have a case therefore the tag will be revised to neutral.

If memory serves correct you posted football score forecasts in my Premier League thread a day after the actual games took place. You did this using minimal typing just in order to increase post count yet had you applied due-diligence you would have at least known what you were talking about before you messed up. On top of that your regular post pattern was effectively evident of someone trying to build up their account posting for the sake of that and for that I should have tagged you neutral instead of red.

Kindly note, though it may seem inconsequential for the present I will still state it for clarity sake in order to avoid confusion for the future. As and when I become aware of any associated alt-accounts I will tag them all as I see fit and if that happens no amount of thread making on your part or peer pressure from well respected members will affect my decision to remove or revise my tags.

Keeping that aside, I hope you raise your contribution levels in the forum with informative posts and in the process become a well respected member that is highly trusted.

As this thread no longer serves any purpose I advise you to lock it because trolls and attention-seekers with ulterior motives will feel compelled to spout nonsense here.

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Just look at the date the feedback left. February this year. If it was a feedback left before 2018 then it was fine, we could say that JollyGood was not aware of valid practice of the feedback system.
Isn't he making a joke of the idea of the feedback system suggested by theymos?

Feedback left for BitcoinTurk is a joke as well.

JollyGood is knowingly abusing the feedback system but unfortunately so many members are still trusting him in their trust list and giving him a pass.

Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on October 28, 2022, 01:53:06 AM

Buddy, eight months? I can understand that this is a long time, but referring to JollyGood about removing the negative tag, I can predict that eight months is not enough time for him. Have you read BitcoinTurk's request and also JollyGood's response? Somehow, it seems to me that you will have to wait a few more months, if not years.

You are saying it's okay to leave feedback for such things and it's also okay to tell the users to wait some number of months to have their feedback removed? JollyGood actually told the same to BitcoinTurk with some usual hate speech against those who are not supporting his abuse.

Quote from: JollyGood on October 23, 2022, 10:40:04 AM

a couple of low-level attention seekers with grudges against me will continue to use this thread as a platform to spout their useless comments and it will only distract and divert from the issue.

JollyGood should be removed from the DT system for his abusive use of the system. On reputation board there are enough complains against his trust abuse. How many more we need? Maybe it's time to notify the users who have him in their trust list before we see even more abusive cases against JollyGood.

JollyGood's judgement is Trusted by:
Vod, DiamondCardz, peloso, Coinfan, Lauda, digit, Timelord2067, jeremypwr, allyouracid, stompix, Avirunes, dopey, Gianluca95, SiNeReiNZzz, DaveF, owlcatz, examplens, nutildah, thandie, LFC_Bitcoin, s0nix, TwitchySeal, vlom, JaredKaragen, Jemzx00, Slow death, IconFirm, johnsmithx, blurryeyed, kurian, igehhh, CryptopreneurBrainboss, mosprognoz, KTChampions, icopress, indah rezqi, invincible49, logfiles, tvplus006, witcher_sense, darcon_pr, The Cryptovator, lovesmayfamilis, cryptobenn, TalkStar, Trade Runner, bitbottrader, zasad@, Rikafip, protrader786, FatFork, decodx, CryptoYar, villain_Mr.Burns, PaperWallet, wagmi.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on October 27, 2022, 06:22:30 PM

Damn, I wasn't aware that's possible to block messages from specific user on Bitcointalk

Really? Yeah, there's a "personal messages" option where you can add members to your PM ignore list, which is different from the better-known ignore list.

OP, I'd say you've got a case here, because nobody should be leaving negative feedback because of someone's post quality--or even if they're an idiot and did what you apparently did with the scores earlier this year. This is why I've excluded JG from my trust list. Well actually, I did that before I completely blanked it, but the reason was that he's had a very bad habit of leaving those types of negs.

Hopefullly JG will reconsider it, but if not you're out of luck.

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Damn, I wasn't aware that's possible to block messages from specific user on Bitcointalk, Or it happens when you put user on ignore and you won't get PM's from him.
OP, if you can't send him PM, best thing what you can do, open thread on Reputation board with his username in the title. Something similar what you already did with this thread, but Meta just isn't right place for it.
But c'mon dude, you really made forecast of football game one day after it already ended? LOL. Though, IMO, it's not enough to get negative trust.

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Make your case or move this post to the reputations board. One of the members may pick up interest and contact him or the mentions will get his attention.

In my opinion, some negatives are just too harsh and uncalled-for, making the Trust system look like a big joke. Reporting the spam or at most a neutral feedback should do.

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