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Topic: [I0C] I0coin - The Best Choice In Digital Currency - page 53. (Read 82343 times)

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I've been thinking about item 2. on the i0coin client upgrade bounty.

2. OP_RETURN must be set to 80 bytes (to allow financial platform development)

I think it may be best to keep OP_RETURN at 40 bytes like Bitcoin.  There are a few reasons for my change of mind.  First, financial platforms are working fine on Bitcoin using 40 bytes.  Second, it reduces the number of differences, even if minor, between i0coin and Bitcoin so there are less chances for bugs.  Third, i0coin has a 90 second block time compared to Bitcoin's 10 minutes, so i0coin's block chain is growing faster.  I0coin's block chain is already over 11 GB even with small numbers of transactions.  I'm worried that a larger OP_RETURN could balloon the block chain even more.  Of course, if and when Bitcoin updates the OP_RETURN byte size, so will i0coin.

Feedback is welcome.


Bitcoin 0.11.0 has enabled block chain pruning.  If we upgrade i0coin to 0.11.0 then we could use larger OP_RETURN byte sizes.

Read about block file pruning here.
https://bitcoin.org/en/release/v0.11.0


Pruning definitely helps for those who can do it, but i0coin will need to maintain some nodes with full block chains.  So I would still prefer to keep the block chain as small as possible with OP_RETURN at 40 bytes.

I do like the idea of pruning.  It may attract users who don't like large block chains taking up room on their hard drives.  I'd be ok with changing the bounty instructions to require version 0.11.0.




I've been playing with pruning on Bitcoin 0.11.0.  It does reduce the Bitcoin folder from 46 GB to about 1.5 GB, but it's not much use in this mode.  You CANNOT run a wallet, which means you can't send or receive coins.  (A future release will provide wallets with pruning enabled.)  

The main use I can see for running a client with pruning enabled is to create a "lite" node which can relay transactions and the latests block data.  You can also mine using pruning, but there are potential cons to doing this.  

"...550 blocks is not exactly a major buffer to prevent a potential Bitcoin fork. And if the majority of mining pools end up on on a fork of the network for a lengthy period of time, all hell will break loose."

https://www.bitcoin.com/news/pros-and-cons-on-bitcoin-block-pruning/


I can see this may help i0coin down the road to create more "lite" nodes to expand the network, but I'm not so sure this is a big advantage at this time until we can run a wallet too.

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We need a new exchange soon.  Vircurex is delisting i0coin next month.


Yep, but that is also means that buy orders will be filled. Some people think if there is no exchange the coin is dead, which is not actually true  Cool
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We need a new exchange soon.  Vircurex is delisting i0coin next month.
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the network block sometimes do not fit?

Doesn't fit where?  Are you saying the block chain is getting too big?

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the network block sometimes do not fit?
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Activity: 286
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I've been thinking about item 2. on the i0coin client upgrade bounty.

2. OP_RETURN must be set to 80 bytes (to allow financial platform development)

I think it may be best to keep OP_RETURN at 40 bytes like Bitcoin.  There are a few reasons for my change of mind.  First, financial platforms are working fine on Bitcoin using 40 bytes.  Second, it reduces the number of differences, even if minor, between i0coin and Bitcoin so there are less chances for bugs.  Third, i0coin has a 90 second block time compared to Bitcoin's 10 minutes, so i0coin's block chain is growing faster.  I0coin's block chain is already over 11 GB even with small numbers of transactions.  I'm worried that a larger OP_RETURN could balloon the block chain even more.  Of course, if and when Bitcoin updates the OP_RETURN byte size, so will i0coin.

Feedback is welcome.


Bitcoin 0.11.0 has enabled block chain pruning.  If we upgrade i0coin to 0.11.0 then we could use larger OP_RETURN byte sizes.

Read about block file pruning here.
https://bitcoin.org/en/release/v0.11.0


Pruning definitely helps for those who can do it, but i0coin will need to maintain some nodes with full block chains.  So I would still prefer to keep the block chain as small as possible with OP_RETURN at 40 bytes.

I do like the idea of pruning.  It may attract users who don't like large block chains taking up room on their hard drives.  I'd be ok with changing the bounty instructions to require version 0.11.0.

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My IOC wallet says there is no block source available. What is the most new wallet version?

The latest wallet is version 0.8.6-1 here.
http://i0coin.snel.it/
or
https://izerocoin.org/downloads/


For your block source problem, the best source of current addnodes is here...

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/i0c/#!network

Click on the "node list" buttons to get addnodes for your i0coin.conf file.



Thanks! It is now synchronizing with network.

Welcome to i0coin!
sr. member
Activity: 453
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My IOC wallet says there is no block source available. What is the most new wallet version?

The latest wallet is version 0.8.6-1 here.
http://i0coin.snel.it/
or
https://izerocoin.org/downloads/


For your block source problem, the best source of current addnodes is here...

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/i0c/#!network

Click on the "node list" buttons to get addnodes for your i0coin.conf file.



Thanks! It is now synchronizing with network.
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Activity: 104
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My IOC wallet says there is no block source available. What is the most new wallet version?

The latest wallet is version 0.8.6-1 here.
http://i0coin.snel.it/
or
https://izerocoin.org/downloads/


For your block source problem, the best source of current addnodes is here...

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/i0c/#!network

Click on the "node list" buttons to get addnodes for your i0coin.conf file.

sr. member
Activity: 453
Merit: 255
My IOC wallet says there is no block source available. What is the most new wallet version?
member
Activity: 104
Merit: 60
I've been thinking about item 2. on the i0coin client upgrade bounty.

2. OP_RETURN must be set to 80 bytes (to allow financial platform development)

I think it may be best to keep OP_RETURN at 40 bytes like Bitcoin.  There are a few reasons for my change of mind.  First, financial platforms are working fine on Bitcoin using 40 bytes.  Second, it reduces the number of differences, even if minor, between i0coin and Bitcoin so there are less chances for bugs.  Third, i0coin has a 90 second block time compared to Bitcoin's 10 minutes, so i0coin's block chain is growing faster.  I0coin's block chain is already over 11 GB even with small numbers of transactions.  I'm worried that a larger OP_RETURN could balloon the block chain even more.  Of course, if and when Bitcoin updates the OP_RETURN byte size, so will i0coin.

Feedback is welcome.


Bitcoin 0.11.0 has enabled block chain pruning.  If we upgrade i0coin to 0.11.0 then we could use larger OP_RETURN byte sizes.

Read about block file pruning here.
https://bitcoin.org/en/release/v0.11.0
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Activity: 286
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izerocoin.org is down temporarily.  I accidentally let the domain expire so I'm working to get it renewed.  It should only be a few days.


izerocoin.org is back up.  I still need to renew the SSL cert.  So you may get an untrusted connection warning until I do.
full member
Activity: 286
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I've been thinking about item 2. on the i0coin client upgrade bounty.

2. OP_RETURN must be set to 80 bytes (to allow financial platform development)

I think it may be best to keep OP_RETURN at 40 bytes like Bitcoin.  There are a few reasons for my change of mind.  First, financial platforms are working fine on Bitcoin using 40 bytes.  Second, it reduces the number of differences, even if minor, between i0coin and Bitcoin so there are less chances for bugs.  Third, i0coin has a 90 second block time compared to Bitcoin's 10 minutes, so i0coin's block chain is growing faster.  I0coin's block chain is already over 11 GB even with small numbers of transactions.  I'm worried that a larger OP_RETURN could balloon the block chain even more.  Of course, if and when Bitcoin updates the OP_RETURN byte size, so will i0coin.

Feedback is welcome.

full member
Activity: 286
Merit: 100


izerocoin.org is down temporarily.  I accidentally let the domain expire so I'm working to get it renewed.  It should only be a few days.

full member
Activity: 286
Merit: 100
Has a big pool stopped mining i0coin? I notice my pool has started picking up most of the blocks recently.

Yes, network hash rate has dropped over the last 4-6 weeks.  It appears to be F2Pool that has reduced its hash rate for i0coin.
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Has a big pool stopped mining i0coin? I notice my pool has started picking up most of the blocks recently.
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I think bitcoin should be thought of as a sha256d hardware network instead of one chain. It makes sense for me to envision a multiwallet that helps to act as a transaction router that puts your transaction on the appropriate chain for what your use is.

Regardless I want to push for more interaction of bitcoin, ixcoin, and i0coin. It could also be possible that the omnicore guys copy their system and run it on ixcoin and i0coin in addition to bitcoin. Omni could act as the bridge for these chains to interact together.

We welcome more cooperation.  I've always thought those three would make a great trifecta.  Bitcoin is the original.  ixcoin the clone, which makes it supremely compatible with any tools developed for Bitcoin.  Then there's i0coin, just as compatible, but with the transaction speed advantage when that's needed.  Let us know how we can help.

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Fast block times make for a great platform for financial extensions like Colored Coins, Counterparty, and Mastercoin.  I0coin's lower price means it can support smart contracts and smart assets for a much lower cost than Bitcoin.

^from the op


Does the current i0coin codebase support these types of transactions?

IE: from what I understand ixcoin 9.x can support the op_return being used to run a Colored Coins, Counterparty, and Mastercoin type of system however the bulk of the hashrate from cex and the other main pool are still running on 3.x something so this feature cant be used.

I noticed i0coin is at 8.x, which I believe means that you also can't run counterparty on this.

Am I correct?

You are correct mate.  We need to upgrade to at least 9.x on the client and get pools to upgrade as well.  These are some goals we wanted to advertise so the public knows where we're headed.

hero member
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I think bitcoin should be thought of as a sha256d hardware network instead of one chain. It makes sense for me to envision a multiwallet that helps to act as a transaction router that puts your transaction on the appropriate chain for what your use is.

Regardless I want to push for more interaction of bitcoin, ixcoin, and i0coin. It could also be possible that the omnicore guys copy their system and run it on ixcoin and i0coin in addition to bitcoin. Omni could act as the bridge for these chains to interact together.
hero member
Activity: 882
Merit: 1000
Fast block times make for a great platform for financial extensions like Colored Coins, Counterparty, and Mastercoin.  I0coin's lower price means it can support smart contracts and smart assets for a much lower cost than Bitcoin.

^from the op


Does the current i0coin codebase support these types of transactions?

IE: from what I understand ixcoin 9.x can support the op_return being used to run a Colored Coins, Counterparty, and Mastercoin type of system however the bulk of the hashrate from cex and the other main pool are still running on 3.x something so this feature cant be used.

I noticed i0coin is at 8.x, which I believe means that you also can't run counterparty on this.

Am I correct?
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