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Quote from: pakhitheboss on November 02, 2023, 08:23:52 AM

Yes, it was good to see both these guys competing against each other. In the end Iyer did a good job, hoping he continues to do the same in the semifinals.

I would still prefer SKY over Iyer and I will tell you why, he clearly has weakness against the short ball and today SL bowlers didn't attempted it however imagine match against SA where Rabada, Jansen, Coetzee will use the short ball as go to ball against him where he will fail for sure in my opinion.

There are some unofficial reports says that Hardik will join back to the team in the final league match against Netherlands and continue from there.

Congratulations team India for such commanding victory and kudos to the lethal bowling attack from all the three pacers.

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Quote from: Bureau on November 02, 2023, 06:57:21 AM

An interesting competition was happening when both SKY and Iyer were batting together. We all know they both and Ishan Kishan are competing to get into the 4th position and for now, Iyer is winning as SKY got out while trying a pull shot. That is why a batter like SKY needs to understand the difference between a T20 format and an ODI format. Playing careless shots does work in T20, but not in ODI or Test cricket. While batting in the T20 format a batter's objective is to score as many runs as they can in 20 overs whereas in a 50-over match, you would need to have patience and the ability to find an odd ball to hit a boundary.

Yes, it was good to see both these guys competing against each other. In the end Iyer did a good job, hoping he continues to do the same in the semifinals.

Another match which is one sided, India won't have any issues in winning the game today. Some stupid quoted my reply on the thread moderated by elevates. They said India alreat has 12 points they have already secured thier semifinal position. The problem here is too much information but a mule mind to deduce it. If they know what calculation means they would understand pointing towards some illeterates.

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Quote from: Bitcoin Smith on November 02, 2023, 06:34:03 AM

Team India backing up Iyer too much even though it is good for the team environment, still it is kind of discouraging to the talents who are waiting for their opportunities even after having records in their few appearances.

Gill and Kohli made good partnership but two of them fell short of their centuries, I was waiting for 49th ton today which came too close but again soft dismissal. Even after two wickets, India is maintaining the good phase, and it looks like we can reach 360 or more.

250/3 at 39th over. 50 partnership between Iyer and KL Rahul.

An interesting competition was happening when both SKY and Iyer were batting together. We all know they both and Ishan Kishan are competing to get into the 4th position and for now, Iyer is winning as SKY got out while trying a pull shot. That is why a batter like SKY needs to understand the difference between a T20 format and an ODI format. Playing careless shots does work in T20, but not in ODI or Test cricket. While batting in the T20 format a batter's objective is to score as many runs as they can in 20 overs whereas in a 50-over match, you would need to have patience and the ability to find an odd ball to hit a boundary.

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Quote from: Bureau on November 02, 2023, 03:03:33 AM

As expected no changes made by the Indian team management. They don't want to rest senior players or give opportunities to those who are warming the seats. I was expecting Ishan and Ashwin to be part of the squad.

Team India backing up Iyer too much even though it is good for the team environment, still it is kind of discouraging to the talents who are waiting for their opportunities even after having records in their few appearances.

Gill and Kohli made good partnership but two of them fell short of their centuries, I was waiting for 49th ton today which came too close but again soft dismissal. Even after two wickets, India is maintaining the good phase, and it looks like we can reach 360 or more.

250/3 at 39th over. 50 partnership between Iyer and KL Rahul.

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Only two are still playing out of the 10 names mentioned on the list. It is irony that none of the teams playing in this year's World Cup have players that are capable like Rohit and Virat. I hope to see new names coming up in the next World Cup. Some new Indian names might get added to that list.

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As expected no changes made by the Indian team management. They don't want to rest senior players or give opportunities to those who are warming the seats. I was expecting Ishan and Ashwin to be part of the squad.

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Quote from: Bureau on November 01, 2023, 05:27:20 AM

Semifinals Qualification Scenario

The top 4 teams according to current point tables are India, South Africa, New Zealand and Australia. How many wins do each of them need to confirm their semifinal spot.

India needs only 1 win out of their 3 matches.
South Africa need two wins to guarantee their spot out of three matches.
New Zealand need to win all the three matches to confirm their spot.
Australia too has to win all the three matches to confirm their spot. If they lose any game then they will have to rely on other results and NRR.

I can confirm that India will be able to secure their spot in the next game, which is against Srilanka. Which three will be the next to confirm their spot? Any guesses?

India will win today against the weaker Srilanka side to confirm their semifinal. The Kiwis after their lost yesterday would now depend on NRR and have to win all thier matches.

Let me add the qualification scenario of Pakistan. They have to win all thier games. The do need to work on the NRR for that they have win thier next match by a margin of minimum 83 runs and within 35 overs depending whether they bat first or bowl first. Not an easy task for them but knowing Pakistan they might be able to sneak into the semifinals.

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Quote from: Bureau on November 01, 2023, 05:27:20 AM

Semifinals Qualification Scenario

The top 4 teams according to current point tables are India, South Africa, New Zealand and Australia. How many wins do each of them need to confirm their semifinal spot.

India needs only 1 win out of their 3 matches.
South Africa need two wins to guarantee their spot out of three matches.
New Zealand need to win all the three matches to confirm their spot.
Australia too has to win all the three matches to confirm their spot. If they lose any game then they will have to rely on other results and NRR.

I can confirm that India will be able to secure their spot in the next game, which is against Srilanka. Which three will be the next to confirm their spot? Any guesses?

AFAIK, 12 points is enough to secure the top 4 spot and India as well as SA reached it so both teams will be fighting for top 1 and 2 positions while the remaining teams have to perform well as well rely on other's result to get qualified.

As of now NZ dropped to 4th position after the huge defeat against SA today which will make the NZ to win remaining 2 out of 2 to secure their spot or if 1 out of 2 then their qualification will be based on NRR.

Tomorrow we have India vs SL and with current form of India its impossible for SL to beat India but the fact its going to be the repeat of 2011 final since its going to happen at Wankhede. I hope India will make the right change now which is replace Iyer with Ishan and let the SKY continue at his current spot so that we still have the stability if Hardik might ruled out of the tournament at knockout stages.

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Semifinals Qualification Scenario

The top 4 teams according to current point tables are India, South Africa, New Zealand and Australia. How many wins do each of them need to confirm their semifinal spot.

India needs only 1 win out of their 3 matches.
South Africa need two wins to guarantee their spot out of three matches.
New Zealand need to win all the three matches to confirm their spot.
Australia too has to win all the three matches to confirm their spot. If they lose any game then they will have to rely on other results and NRR.

I can confirm that India will be able to secure their spot in the next game, which is against Srilanka. Which three will be the next to confirm their spot? Any guesses?

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on October 31, 2023, 11:57:42 PM

Not much of the World Cup would be left for Shreyas Iyer if he is unable to deliver in the next match against Srilanka. Two more guys are eyeing for the 4th batting spot in the team. They are Ishan Kishan and SKY, after Hardik Pandya returns either one of them would replace Iyer if he performs in the same manner in his last 6 games in the World Cup. Found the news on mainstream media and thought of sharing it with you guys.

World Cup, India vs Sri Lanka: Shreyas Iyer put on 'short' notice

He has only one half century from 6 matches in the tournament. He is struggling with his form otherwise he is one of the most agressive batter after Rishabh Panth. I won't be surprised if he is dropped after the match against Srilanka. SKY has a better chance to bat at number 4 when Hardik comes bat. He is a batter who can easily increase the run rate with his ability to hit the ball 360 degree. In the last match we did saw some of his hits.

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Not much of the World Cup would be left for Shreyas Iyer if he is unable to deliver in the next match against Srilanka. Two more guys are eyeing for the 4th batting spot in the team. They are Ishan Kishan and SKY, after Hardik Pandya returns either one of them would replace Iyer if he performs in the same manner in his last 6 games in the World Cup. Found the news on mainstream media and thought of sharing it with you guys.

World Cup, India vs Sri Lanka: Shreyas Iyer put on 'short' notice

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Quote from: Bureau on October 29, 2023, 01:52:39 PM

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I expect Siraj to be replaced in the next game and also Shreyas Iyer seems to be a concern in the middle order so why not let KL Rahul to bat at 4 and SKY and Hardik at 5/6 followed by Jaddu. Clearly, SKY made a statement to the team and contributed valuable runs when the team needed the most.

I doubt Shiraj will be replaced, he is one of the most successful bowler that India has produced. Only one bad game can't determine the long term benefits of having him. Sheyas Iyer should be removed, he has been a failure until now. Ishan Kishan should replace him and Hardik if he is fit should replace SKY. The rumour that is coming out in the social media is that he might not be fit for the rest of the matches.

I feel Shreyas should be replaced with Ishan Kishan, I know I backed him up in prior comments but he's been fail in all 6 matches, also Ishan is really good fielder, Gill and he are bros, also!

Sky should stay, imo.

Siraj should go out at least for one game, even if gets few wickets, he tend to be economically expensive. At least a match without him, see how India does, should be replaced with Ashwin or Shardul.

Quote from: Bureau on October 30, 2023, 12:27:43 PM

BTW, BCCI the way they conducted the 50 over World Cup looks like is not kneen is having another one,

True, Fielders were digging land in Dharamshala and Lucknow outfield. Is this how you prepare for wc?

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Quote from: elevates on October 30, 2023, 12:50:33 PM

DID ANYONE CHECK THE POINT TABLE?

Suddenly, out of nowhere the above two teams can be fighting to get a place in the semifinals. No one expected Afghanistan to rank 5th by defeating some of the big names in Cricket. Australia started badly but as known they are a team that can give you a good fight. What is happening at this time in the World Cup? I won't be surprised if tomorrow the Netherlands beats Afghanistan and ranks just below them on the point table. It is becoming harder and harder to predict any games in this year of the World Cup.

Afghanistan is a big suprise package for everyone. I never thought that they will be playing well in 2023 after thier bad performance in 2019. Hashmatullah Shahidi captaincy has been very good. He has changed the way the team used to play earlier. They ranked last on the point table in 2019 and now are slowly closing towards the semifinals. We all knew Australia would comeback they did the same in 2019.

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DID ANYONE CHECK THE POINT TABLE?

Suddenly, out of nowhere the above two teams can be fighting to get a place in the semifinals. No one expected Afghanistan to rank 5th by defeating some of the big names in Cricket. Australia started badly but as known they are a team that can give you a good fight. What is happening at this time in the World Cup? I won't be surprised if tomorrow the Netherlands beats Afghanistan and ranks just below them on the point table. It is becoming harder and harder to predict any games in this year of the World Cup.

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Quote from: Bitcoin Smith on October 30, 2023, 09:53:17 AM

I didn't say Siraj is failed, but he didn't fulfill the expectations especially after what he did in the Asia cup and in just two matches Shami got the place in top wicket takers of WC while Siraj found nowhere despite playing all the 6 matches. If Hardik fit to play the Siraj should be the man to make a way for him because team can't drop him after what he did in just 2 matches.

About Hardik, there is no official statement and the potential candidates list where roam around the internet if he is ruled out of the tournament.

Frankly! I doubt Shiraj would be replaced as Kohli and Hitman would object. Next, Hardik might not be available for the entire tournament that is what is circulating in the social media. He is the Captain of T20 team and next year we will have T20 World Cup, he would be given as much rest as possible by the BCCI, without him the team is still doing good.

BTW, BCCI the way they conducted the 50 over World Cup looks like is not kneen is having another one, they would try to convince ICC before the next one citing the lack of audience both online and offline. Which we know how it was made possible offline. While online only Indian games are generating ideal number of viewership, except a few non Indian games. There is too much going on behind the curtains and as usual BCCI is only interested in generating revenue according to their own terms.

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Quote from: Bureau on October 29, 2023, 01:52:39 PM

Quote from: Bitcoin Smith on October 29, 2023, 12:26:23 PM

I expect Siraj to be replaced in the next game and also Shreyas Iyer seems to be a concern in the middle order so why not let KL Rahul to bat at 4 and SKY and Hardik at 5/6 followed by Jaddu. Clearly, SKY made a statement to the team and contributed valuable runs when the team needed the most.

I doubt Shiraj will be replaced, he is one of the most successful bowler that India has produced. Only one bad game can't determine the long term benefits of having him. Sheyas Iyer should be removed, he has been a failure until now. Ishan Kishan should replace him and Hardik if he is fit should replace SKY. The rumour that is coming out in the social media is that he might not be fit for the rest of the matches.

I didn't say Siraj is failed, but he didn't fulfill the expectations especially after what he did in the Asia cup and in just two matches Shami got the place in top wicket takers of WC while Siraj found nowhere despite playing all the 6 matches. If Hardik fit to play the Siraj should be the man to make a way for him because team can't drop him after what he did in just 2 matches.

About Hardik, there is no official statement and the potential candidates list where roam around the internet if he is ruled out of the tournament.

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Consistency & hardwork with a pinch of luck always pays. Mohammad Shami missed the initial games of World Cup. After playing two matches he is now one of the few bowlers who has got the best bowling figures twice in this World Cup. If he continues to bowl in the same manner he would become one of the bowlers with the highest wickets. For now only Jaspreet Bhumrah is on the list. He is ranking second with 14 wickets. Adam Zampa is on the top with 16 wickets till now in this tournament.

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Quote from: Bitcoin Smith on October 29, 2023, 12:26:23 PM

I expect Siraj to be replaced in the next game and also Shreyas Iyer seems to be a concern in the middle order so why not let KL Rahul to bat at 4 and SKY and Hardik at 5/6 followed by Jaddu. Clearly, SKY made a statement to the team and contributed valuable runs when the team needed the most.

I doubt Shiraj will be replaced, he is one of the most successful bowler that India has produced. Only one bad game can't determine the long term benefits of having him. Sheyas Iyer should be removed, he has been a failure until now. Ishan Kishan should replace him and Hardik if he is fit should replace SKY. The rumour that is coming out in the social media is that he might not be fit for the rest of the matches.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on October 29, 2023, 10:54:57 AM

India will be playing with same team next against Srilanka. I don't think they would make any changes to the existing team.

If Hardik is fit to play then he will walk into the playing XI no matter what because having that extra bowling option will benefit the bowling if one bowler has an off day like what happened with Siraj today.

I expect Siraj to be replaced in the next game and also Shreyas Iyer seems to be a concern in the middle order so why not let KL Rahul to bat at 4 and SKY and Hardik at 5/6 followed by Jaddu. Clearly, SKY made a statement to the team and contributed valuable runs when the team needed the most.

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Another good win by the Indian team. They remain undefeated in this World Cup with 12 points on the point table. Absolutely amazing bowling by the Indian team especially Mohammad Shami. He took 4 wickets today and could have taken a fifer if Bhumrah hadn't took out the last English batter. He cannot be ignored anymore by the Indian team management after Hardik Pandya makes a comeback. India will be playing with same team next against Srilanka. I don't think they would make any changes to the existing team.

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