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Quote from: Bitcoin Smith on October 22, 2023, 04:27:38 AM

Indians bowling attack again started extraordinarily against the best team which put the Conway under pressure and when he tried to hit he get caught at mid-wicket and Shami bowled a beauty in his first ever ball of this tournament and took Will young's wicket.

India is really in strong position now and without Kane Williamson then their middle order could be shaken down.

Shami could have got his second wicket if Jadeja could have taken the simple catch of Rachin. The spinners have stopped the flow of runs for now. They have brought the run rate below 5 again, we should expect another wicket anytime now. Indian bowling attack has been one of its plus point. They have been able to comeback everytime when the opponent batters have tried to increase the run flow.

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Indians bowling attack again started extraordinarily against the best team which put the Conway under pressure and when he tried to hit he get caught at mid-wicket and Shami bowled a beauty in his first ever ball of this tournament and took Will young's wicket.

India is really in strong position now and without Kane Williamson then their middle order could be shaken down.

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India VS New Zealand

An important match for both the teams as they both have not been defeated yet in the tournament. Today one of them will get defeated and the other would remain undefeated. India. Will be playing without Hardik Pandya as he got injured in the last match. Either SKY or Kishan should be part of the playing 11 today. I just checked the betting odds and India has a slight edge in the odds against New Zealand. Overall I am expecting a close match today as we haven't witnessed one in the tournament until now.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on October 20, 2023, 08:59:31 AM

The match is played in Dharamshala which showed that chasing a total is a bit tricky where Netherlands defeated South Africa and England scored 364 batting first, so the toss is an important factor.

India is having better bowling attack than other teams so either its chasing or defending we have the quality unit for that especially all of them are in extreme form since Asia cup. Still the Playing XI for tomorrow's match is unpredictable and for Kiwis Williamson seems to fit for tomorrow's match and if he plays then we will have some worries though cause he is someone who can defend and attack whenever needed and he is used to Indian pitches as well as against India.

I would love to see SKY too but will the team management take the risk on this match? I don't think so.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on October 20, 2023, 07:10:52 AM

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As it is now clear that Pandya won't be playing the next match a in the World Cup. I am certain about Shami but I am not sure about SKY. I still think Ishan would be given preference over SKY. In my opinion SKY is a T20 player than an ODI one. His ability to hit the ball all over the ground comes handy as a T20 batters. Whereas a Kishan has already played in the World Cup and is quite capable in a 50 over match. We can only speculate the final decision would be taken by the team management.

SKY has shown that he has the ability to strike the ball really well when he is in touch in the highest level, he may not have showed that in ODI, but it is a matter of time he will prove his caliber, Ishan Kishan is a good left handed option as the match is in pitches where he will be familiar but not able to view him bat so no comments on that.

The match is played in Dharamshala which showed that chasing a total is a bit tricky where Netherlands defeated South Africa and England scored 364 batting first, so the toss is an important factor.

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Who will be the next replacement? Either Shami or Kishan I personally think will be his replacement. What do you guys think?

2 changes from my side.

It's official that Pandya will not be available for the match against NZ on Sunday.

Pandya to miss NZ clash due to ankle injury

As I predicted, India is going to be facing the real challenge now and it's up against the another Undefeated team. I feel that Ishan Kishan should be played over SKY as of this moment just purely based on their batting performance based on ODIs alone. We saw that Surya can play controlled inning too but its obvious that he tried really had not to hit the ball on that match too whereas Ishan Kishan will be good because to tackle the Santner in the middle over because is the leading wicket take for NZ and gives control in the middle overs of Kiwis which can be disturbed with the presence of an aggressive left-hander like him.

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Quote from: JSRAW on October 20, 2023, 02:40:51 AM

2 changes from my side.

As it is now clear that Pandya won't be playing the next match a in the World Cup. I am certain about Shami but I am not sure about SKY. I still think Ishan would be given preference over SKY. In my opinion SKY is a T20 player than an ODI one. His ability to hit the ball all over the ground comes handy as a T20 batters. Whereas a Kishan has already played in the World Cup and is quite capable in a 50 over match. We can only speculate the final decision would be taken by the team management.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on October 19, 2023, 12:08:33 PM

Who will be the next replacement? Either Shami or Kishan I personally think will be his replacement. What do you guys think?

2 changes from my side.

The next match up is against the Kiwis in Dharmashala so IMO they should drop Thakur Saab and include Shami in the Playing XI but it will make our tail a bit long so to tackle this they could opt for SKY as an extra batter. Overall we should go with our old formula of 5 genuine bowlers (including Jadeja as a spin allrounder).

Shami over Thakur because you can't risk with the latter when you are going with the 5 bowlers only. He's a useful number 6 bowling option but you can't count him as a frontline bowler despite his golden arm.

Kishan is a left-hander, which is a plus point in the mid inning when the opposition has left arm spinner (Satner) and no bowling side like this kind of battle as it heavily favors the slogging lefty batter like Kishan (similar to Pant) but SKY provides X-factor so I'd prefer him over Kishan.

Jaddu-Kuldeep duo is doing their job nicely so Ashwin's services are unnecessary in the next match.

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So Hardik Pandya is mostly injured for the next match and won't be in. What do you guys think? Will it be 5 bowlers in form of Shardul Ashwin, Kuldeep, Bumrah and Siraj or do you think it's better to put in SKY in place of Pandya and Ashwin in place of Shardul? Because I think it's better to have an extra batter with you haven't seen that trusted batting from Shardul so far. Case would have been different if we had Axar in team.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on October 19, 2023, 12:08:33 PM

What concerns me is the batting of Shreyas Iyer. I think he is struggling with his timing and after watching him getting caught today I feel he should be rested.

I feel he's good at rotating the strike and knows how to hold a wicket however whenever he goes for big shots he gets out. I think he's proper odi batsman and can be good partner when working along the sides of hard hitting batsman.

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The next concern is Hardik Injury as the Indian team need him . The reason is simple he is the best all rounder that India has after Kapil Dev. For now the news is not good as he has been sent for scans as the team physio think he has broken his ankle.

Who will be the next replacement? Either Shami or Kishan I personally think will be his replacement. What do you guys think?

I'd rather like Surya, but I'll probably be alone on this one.

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Quote from: Bitcoin Smith on October 19, 2023, 12:45:55 PM

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I would prefer Ashwin over Takur on any venue because he is more capable of batting and can trouble batsmen even in batting friendly conditions with his variations so that is the one change I would like to happen.

Ashwin should be in the team as he would have walked into any team playing in this world cup and still not getting a spot and Hardik should take some rest and bring Shami back against New Zealand.

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AFAIK, the Hardik's Injury is not that serious but if he can't play the next match then India will be having big trouble since he contributes in both bat and ball.

If Hardik needs to be rested then India needs an actual 3rd seamer who will be Shami, but we will go one batsman short, so I hope he will be recovered before the big match against Kiwis on Sunday.

Hardik twisted his ankle and he was not even able to bowl after that, he needs a minimum rest of one week and if he is rushed back for the Sunday's match against New Zealand he wont be playing at his best and he might get injured again.

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Kohli reached his 48th ODI ton today in his way and just one short to level Sachin's record.

Never thought anyone would surpass Sachin for the number of centuries scored in ODI.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on October 19, 2023, 12:08:33 PM

What concerns me is the batting of Shreyas Iyer. I think he is struggling with his timing and after watching him getting caught today I feel he should be rested. I am sure the Indian team management won't agree with me.

The next concern is Hardik Injury as the Indian team need him . The reason is simple he is the best all rounder that India has after Kapil Dev. For now the news is not good as he has been sent for scans as the team physio think he has broken his ankle.

Who will be the next replacement? Either Shami or Kishan I personally think will be his replacement. What do you guys think?

I would say Shreyas is doing the job that is assigned to him, which is play anchor role on one end if there are too many wickets fell early, and also he is a good player of spin which proved in the previous match, so I don't think India will be looking for a replacement as long as the winning streak continues, and also I would prefer Ashwin over Takur on any venue because he is more capable of batting and can trouble batsmen even in batting friendly conditions with his variations so that is the one change I would like to happen.

AFAIK, the Hardik's Injury is not that serious but if he can't play the next match then India will be having big trouble since he contributes in both bat and ball.

If Hardik needs to be rested then India needs an actual 3rd seamer who will be Shami, but we will go one batsman short, so I hope he will be recovered before the big match against Kiwis on Sunday.

Kohli reached his 48th ODI ton today in his way and just one short to level Sachin's record.

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India VS Bangladesh

Before the match started a lot of cricket critiques from India and Bangladesh mentioned that it will be tricky match. The reason they quoted was Bangladesh performance in the World Cup against India. They even said that India VS Bangladesh can become a third big upset in the World Cup.

One tight slap to those who questioned India's performance in the World Cup by King Kohli. Another big slap on their face by Rohit Sharma because of his captaincy. The next slap would be from the bowlers and fielders.

What concerns me is the batting of Shreyas Iyer. I think he is struggling with his timing and after watching him getting caught today I feel he should be rested. I am sure the Indian team management won't agree with me.

The next concern is Hardik Injury as the Indian team need him . The reason is simple he is the best all rounder that India has after Kapil Dev. For now the news is not good as he has been sent for scans as the team physio think he has broken his ankle.

Who will be the next replacement? Either Shami or Kishan I personally think will be his replacement. What do you guys think?

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on October 14, 2023, 04:13:27 AM

Pakistan Vs India

The match that every cricket fan had been waiting has started. India winning the toss and asking Pakistan to bat first. The pitch doesn't offer any assistance to the fast bowlers. It might give some assistance to the Indian spinners which we will see in the later stage of the game. At the moment the Pakistani openers have given their team a good start. After end of 8 overs they have scored 41 runs and lost 1 wicket.

Good news for India, Shubman Gill is part of the playing 11. He gives a good boost to the batting order of the Indian team. Ishan Kishan has been dropped for this match.

We all know that India Pakistan match means is a high voltage match.But nowadays India and Pakistan matches don't come like before because Pakistan loses every match to India and now they don't play with them like before.But people sit eagerly to watch Pakistan and India play this time it was proved in their match.Where the gallery was completely empty in the opening match of this World Cup, the gallery was completely filled in the match between India and Pakistan It seemed that the India Pakistan match was the first match of this World Cup.These two countries are eternal rivals in cricket for which there is no shortage of people's interest in these two countries.I am giving some proof of that:

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The target will be difficult to achieve for the England team...

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After yesterday I think the real important matches to asses India's performance are on 22nd, 29th and on 5th Nov. On the 22nd of October they play against New Zealand. Then on the 29th they play against England. The real test would be on the 5th when they play against South Africa. It would be interesting to watch the betting odds for the match against all the three teams.

Why do I have a feeling that these four countries(including India)will be playing against each other in the semifinals. Do you guys have the same hunch?

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I cannot see the image link you have posted. Use talkimg for posting images in the forum. They provide bbcode based links. Coming back to your image link. I think you have posted ICC ODI ranking list. India became the number one team before the World Cup after winning the Asia Cup.

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Quote from: Bitcoin Smith on October 14, 2023, 10:31:41 AM

hopefully the winning run continues for team India.

Many congratulations to the Indian community on winning this important match against Pakistan. They have already beaten the Australian team earlier and I don't think anything is going to stop them from progressing and lifting this 2023 World Cup.

Also, It is not only about the performance, but the confidence and the body language that the whole Indian team has at the moment is a guarantee that they won't disappoint their crowd and nation.

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Although I don't take cricket very seriously, I watched yesterday's match very seriously. Pakistan has been defeated in all the high voltage matches India-Pakistan have played. This is the main failure of Pakistan. Pakistan have lost each of the eight World Cup matches held in the past. In this case, no possible reason is known for Pakistan's defeat but their batting and bowling failure in every match is fully responsible.

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Quote from: elevates on October 14, 2023, 08:13:08 AM

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2 wickets gone for India, Shubman Gill is understandable but Kohli hitting a loose shot is not acceptable. He should have rotated the strike and let Rohit take on the Pakistan bowlers. India is still in a good position to win the game. The reason for scoring fast is because they want a good run rate and in the later stage of the game the ball might not come to the bat as it is now.

I won't blame Kohli though, especially when Hitman is going for the kill all the balls he is facing. He got out on the top edge if I am not wrong but at that stage of match everybody knew that there is no hope for Pakistan in this match so India played this inning with the intention of increasing the NRR and it paid back as well cause now India is sitting at the top of the table.

Hitman seems to be in terrific form and precisely the form he wanted, like in 2019 WC, but unfortunately he gave away his wicket softly and missed his well deserved century. No worries, still lot more games to come, and hopefully the winning run continues for team India.

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