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November 03, 2019, 01:13:30 PM
#91
I look at all new projects as dubious attempts, we are just been given what we want to see that is why we keep falling for scams, we already have too many projects and i expected new projects to be very low to none this days but still we are seeing many more new projects, you don't have to be told that you need to be wise
sr. member
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November 03, 2019, 10:29:56 AM
#90
Sometimes I see rules for staring "good" ICO and one of all paragraph - deanon of creators. But exist countries, in which crypticurrency has been banned and creators have a chance go to jail to 5+ years (examle, Ukraine (if project have a anonymous coin transfer/stablecoins)). If I dont write about myself, I am a scammer (thinked users of bitcointalk). If I write - Im will a convict. What to do?

I think you should be going all transparent with your ideas and stuff. Details first before your necessities to come in. No one would come into your project without them knowing what it has, what are details behind it. It is by default thinking that if you don't produce a sufficient details with your aim or goals then maybe you are a fraud. Drop it all off mate. Try it unless you are indeed a fraud.
sr. member
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November 03, 2019, 10:29:34 AM
#89
creators have a chance go to jail to 5+ years (examle, Ukraine (if project have a anonymous coin transfer/stablecoins)).
Really?  I didn't think any country had such specific laws on their books regarding cryptocurrency, nor did I have any idea that it was so restricted in Ukraine.  Thank you for sharing that fact.  Is this just for stable coins and 'anonymous' ones?  I'm not sure how they determine how anonymous something is, and all cryptocurrencies have this as a feature at least somewhat.

As far as I know, 99% of current ICO projects are fraudulent and unreliable so it's best to stay away and not choose to invest in ICO.
I would imagine the percentage is about that high, as ridiculous as it sounds.  With a scam rate that high, one would think that nobody would be investing in ico's anymore, nor promoting them.  Yet both of those things happen.  And it is the best advice you could get to stay away from *all* of them.
hero member
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November 03, 2019, 10:19:42 AM
#88
Sometimes I see rules for staring "good" ICO and one of all paragraph - deanon of creators. But exist countries, in which crypticurrency has been banned and creators have a chance go to jail to 5+ years (examle, Ukraine (if project have a anonymous coin transfer/stablecoins)). If I dont write about myself, I am a scammer (thinked users of bitcointalk). If I write - Im will a convict. What to do?
With scammer ICO owner make many investor never want to invest with ICO again, they claim all ICO are scam with lower price after active trading n exchange and delay for listing coin on market, but just several ICO coin do not have good price and there are many ICO worth with profitable for investor after price up, check with ICO investment before become be part of ICO investment.
I don't accept scammer ICO owner make many investors because investors have some team around the circle. So they read the complete project and analyse the one or two times. I think spam projects are marketing to fake publish and finally they stop the projects. So right know everyone good to survive on crypto platform.

I'm afraid you don't have any choices or should I rather say, you won't see it coming.

Joining an ICO or IEO seems like love at first sight, you only see the good side of it, you never try to find out their bad side (if they have) because you've been hypnotize by their sugarcoated promises, you licked their feet in exchange of the bounty they have allocated and promised to investor and bounty hunters, after that gruesome response you did to have your bounty, all you had in the end is the bad scent of their feet that smells betrayal.
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WorkAsPro
November 03, 2019, 08:14:29 AM
#87
Sometimes I see rules for staring "good" ICO and one of all paragraph - deanon of creators. But exist countries, in which crypticurrency has been banned and creators have a chance go to jail to 5+ years (examle, Ukraine (if project have a anonymous coin transfer/stablecoins)). If I dont write about myself, I am a scammer (thinked users of bitcointalk). If I write - Im will a convict. What to do?
With scammer ICO owner make many investor never want to invest with ICO again, they claim all ICO are scam with lower price after active trading n exchange and delay for listing coin on market, but just several ICO coin do not have good price and there are many ICO worth with profitable for investor after price up, check with ICO investment before become be part of ICO investment.
As far as I know, 99% of current ICO projects are fraudulent and unreliable so it's best to stay away and not choose to invest in ICO. Currently people tend to focus a lot on IEO projects and are being joined by many top investors so this investment will be very potential. Besides, you can participate in leading exchanges like Okex or Binance because this is where there are many good IEO projects and it will be very easy to earn high profits.

Of course any investment will be risky if not researched because there are many fraudulent IEO projects in the market and often decrease after listing so IEO future will be very similar to ICO in the future.
sr. member
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November 03, 2019, 07:23:02 AM
#86
Sometimes I see rules for staring "good" ICO and one of all paragraph - deanon of creators. But exist countries, in which crypticurrency has been banned and creators have a chance go to jail to 5+ years (examle, Ukraine (if project have a anonymous coin transfer/stablecoins)). If I dont write about myself, I am a scammer (thinked users of bitcointalk). If I write - Im will a convict. What to do?
With scammer ICO owner make many investor never want to invest with ICO again, they claim all ICO are scam with lower price after active trading n exchange and delay for listing coin on market, but just several ICO coin do not have good price and there are many ICO worth with profitable for investor after price up, check with ICO investment before become be part of ICO investment.
I don't accept scammer ICO owner make many investors because investors have some team around the circle. So they read the complete project and analyse the one or two times. I think spam projects are marketing to fake publish and finally they stop the projects. So right know everyone good to survive on crypto platform.
sr. member
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November 03, 2019, 06:41:35 AM
#85
Sometimes I see rules for staring "good" ICO and one of all paragraph - deanon of creators. But exist countries, in which crypticurrency has been banned and creators have a chance go to jail to 5+ years (examle, Ukraine (if project have a anonymous coin transfer/stablecoins)). If I dont write about myself, I am a scammer (thinked users of bitcointalk). If I write - Im will a convict. What to do?
With scammer ICO owner make many investor never want to invest with ICO again, they claim all ICO are scam with lower price after active trading n exchange and delay for listing coin on market, but just several ICO coin do not have good price and there are many ICO worth with profitable for investor after price up, check with ICO investment before become be part of ICO investment.
sr. member
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November 03, 2019, 06:31:51 AM
#84
Do not expect to make money the east way, you will get in scammers trap if you have this mindset, know that nothing comes easy this is the only way to avoid scammers temptations, probably when things are too good to be true means they are.

Exactly, we cannot control everything but at least we can avoid to be scam by scammers if we will just be vigilant and we are sure of what we are investing at. Although no assurance in investing at least find the Legit one and has a possibility to be adopted and to become successful .
Need to believe that what we will do is right with the right analysis, because now it is very difficult to avoid scammers because it is already a trend that is happening.
so as not to be fooled properly we must be more careful and believe that what we are doing can guarantee it will not happen.


There's actually no guarantee in everything, so stay focus on what you are doing, believe that there is something great things that will change our life and not by just easy money. We all know that scammers are everywhere and they are not just there in ICO or bounties, they can scam in all aspects so be very careful with our decisions.
I think most of the current ICO projects are scams, so there is not much hope when investing in these projects because the risks can be huge. In my opinion, you should only choose potential projects that people mention because that is often a project that helps you make good profits in this market. I don't believe judging others but would choose to invest if that project is special because it is the fastest way to make money during this time.

Indeed. It is really difficult to identify a ICO project that will benefit you because as you said most of it are now scams, which it is very risky if you try to invest your money in those projects, that is why you should be focusing in other ways that you could also earn cryptocurrencies like trading and mining because avoiding it is the best solution for scammers to stop this kind of fraudulent activities.
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November 02, 2019, 11:20:57 PM
#83
Do not expect to make money the east way, you will get in scammers trap if you have this mindset, know that nothing comes easy this is the only way to avoid scammers temptations, probably when things are too good to be true means they are.

Exactly, we cannot control everything but at least we can avoid to be scam by scammers if we will just be vigilant and we are sure of what we are investing at. Although no assurance in investing at least find the Legit one and has a possibility to be adopted and to become successful .
Need to believe that what we will do is right with the right analysis, because now it is very difficult to avoid scammers because it is already a trend that is happening.
so as not to be fooled properly we must be more careful and believe that what we are doing can guarantee it will not happen.


There's actually no guarantee in everything, so stay focus on what you are doing, believe that there is something great things that will change our life and not by just easy money. We all know that scammers are everywhere and they are not just there in ICO or bounties, they can scam in all aspects so be very careful with our decisions.
I think most of the current ICO projects are scams, so there is not much hope when investing in these projects because the risks can be huge. In my opinion, you should only choose potential projects that people mention because that is often a project that helps you make good profits in this market. I don't believe judging others but would choose to invest if that project is special because it is the fastest way to make money during this time.
legendary
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November 02, 2019, 08:45:23 PM
#82
Sometimes I see rules for staring "good" ICO and one of all paragraph - deanon of creators. But exist countries, in which crypticurrency has been banned and creators have a chance go to jail to 5+ years (examle, Ukraine (if project have a anonymous coin transfer/stablecoins)). If I dont write about myself, I am a scammer (thinked users of bitcointalk). If I write - Im will a convict. What to do?

I advise you to use the solution that smart guys are using - find some people from other countries who will be your project faces Smiley
There is a big market where you can find such services - this idea is as old as the world Smiley
sr. member
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November 01, 2019, 03:19:17 AM
#81
Do not expect to make money the east way, you will get in scammers trap if you have this mindset, know that nothing comes easy this is the only way to avoid scammers temptations, probably when things are too good to be true means they are.

Exactly, we cannot control everything but at least we can avoid to be scam by scammers if we will just be vigilant and we are sure of what we are investing at. Although no assurance in investing at least find the Legit one and has a possibility to be adopted and to become successful .
Need to believe that what we will do is right with the right analysis, because now it is very difficult to avoid scammers because it is already a trend that is happening.
so as not to be fooled properly we must be more careful and believe that what we are doing can guarantee it will not happen.


There's actually no guarantee in everything, so stay focus on what you are doing, believe that there is something great things that will change our life and not by just easy money. We all know that scammers are everywhere and they are not just there in ICO or bounties, they can scam in all aspects so be very careful with our decisions.
sr. member
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November 01, 2019, 03:17:39 AM
#80
Do not expect to make money the east way, you will get in scammers trap if you have this mindset, know that nothing comes easy this is the only way to avoid scammers temptations, probably when things are too good to be true means they are.

Exactly, we cannot control everything but at least we can avoid to be scam by scammers if we will just be vigilant and we are sure of what we are investing at. Although no assurance in investing at least find the Legit one and has a possibility to be adopted and to become successful .
Need to believe that what we will do is right with the right analysis, because now it is very difficult to avoid scammers because it is already a trend that is happening.
so as not to be fooled properly we must be more careful and believe that what we are doing can guarantee it will not happen.

Its absolutely hard to find a good project particularly these days that scammers used different strategies to deceive us, its the reason why I choose to do some research before joining some projects because you can't easily tell if it was a scam or not unless you have already done your own research or you have ask everyone about their experiences about it. Its a bit laborious for some of you but it is worth it because you know that your funds and assets are safe from them, its better to make sure than to feel remorse about your decisions and actions. Projects these days are indeed speculative, you can't tell their true intentions and that is why you need to be cautious every time so you won't fall into some sort of scam.
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November 01, 2019, 02:52:30 AM
#79
Do not expect to make money the east way, you will get in scammers trap if you have this mindset, know that nothing comes easy this is the only way to avoid scammers temptations, probably when things are too good to be true means they are.

Exactly, we cannot control everything but at least we can avoid to be scam by scammers if we will just be vigilant and we are sure of what we are investing at. Although no assurance in investing at least find the Legit one and has a possibility to be adopted and to become successful .
Need to believe that what we will do is right with the right analysis, because now it is very difficult to avoid scammers because it is already a trend that is happening.
so as not to be fooled properly we must be more careful and believe that what we are doing can guarantee it will not happen.
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November 01, 2019, 02:49:29 AM
#78
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Maybe yes, maybe no. I dont need a money, but programmers, who doing a smart-contract or cryptocurrency - need money. Im student and dont have 5-10k for his. Now Im talking in russian tree about my idea and think about search investor.
You even left a confusing answer for me though. You said that you don't need money and later you have said that you need money to pay for those programmers. What if you just stop thinking of this and you should improve yourself in programming?

I know it won't be easy as I'm saying but since you're still a student, you can focus on it and commit time for it. And once you're done and you are about to graduate, I think you can execute your plans because you can be employed and you will be able to save money for that.
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November 01, 2019, 02:48:08 AM
#77
I am not here to invest so i think my money is safe, i am here as a full time bounty hunter and i have been a victim of scam bounty projects, the only solution i can think of is regulation, crypto scam rate is so alarming now and many investors are scared of investing
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November 01, 2019, 02:43:37 AM
#76
Do not expect to make money the east way, you will get in scammers trap if you have this mindset, know that nothing comes easy this is the only way to avoid scammers temptations, probably when things are too good to be true means they are.

Exactly, we cannot control everything but at least we can avoid to be scam by scammers if we will just be vigilant and we are sure of what we are investing at. Although no assurance in investing at least find the Legit one and has a possibility to be adopted and to become successful .

Apart from caution and confidence, there are still many other factors that you need to consider before investing or taking part in the crypto industry. mainly knowledge because that is your initial capital when you enter this space and then how to manage your financial management wisely.
sr. member
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November 01, 2019, 02:32:45 AM
#75
So what exactly do you want to make ICO?
When viewed from the investor's side, yes they have the right to know who they are putting money for and what the money is for. Naturally, investors want to look for profit, which is offered by every developer.
Between developers and investors, they must live in different places, which is suspected to be a scam for developers. Therefore, it is mandatory for every developer to show his true identity. And that is part of the good character of ICO.
If you want to remain anonymous, it's better to make coins or tokens without ICO. As do the coins in 2017 distributed them for free.

But for creating good coin need time and scilled labor => money. I talked with 10-15 teams, who have a cryptocoin and they talked me, what coin costed 5-10-15K usd only. But yet need mining pool, e-wallet and other tools for using. And for this target I want create ICO.
Yes if you want to do it, do it. But my advice, be a good developer. Avoid all forms of crime so as not to trouble you in the future.
I'm sure, if you really mean it and become a good developer, investors will surely come by themselves. Of course, with a good concept too. I know that to start a project is indeed very expensive, so try to attract investors' attention in a good way besides offering bonuses for early birds.
sr. member
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November 01, 2019, 02:26:51 AM
#74
In some countries I have heard that it is not arbitrarily making ICO projects, because of the many cases of fraud related to
this ICO problem. Therefore some countries want to play it safe by banning its citizens from making ICO projects in order
to protect their other citizens. In your country, it is only forbidden to make ICO, it is better to follow the rules, not to violate it
be a disaster. There are many other ways to make money through cryptocurrency.
It should be true that globally all projects that want to conduct funding are required to carry out verification to be able to detect whether it is a scammer or not. of course this step is important to be able to find out everyone who wants to commit fraud by using ICO as an easy way to do it
sr. member
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November 01, 2019, 02:23:51 AM
#73
Why not try to get some help with friends or colleagues?
Those who are overseas which have bitcoin legitimacy or other coins. Some of them are regulating it.
I understand that you really want for this to happen but there is this rules that is stopping you.

You could be the man behind while the face of it will be other people who could somehow be pursued to join your management.
sr. member
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November 01, 2019, 02:19:57 AM
#72
Do not expect to make money the east way, you will get in scammers trap if you have this mindset, know that nothing comes easy this is the only way to avoid scammers temptations, probably when things are too good to be true means they are.

Exactly, we cannot control everything but at least we can avoid to be scam by scammers if we will just be vigilant and we are sure of what we are investing at. Although no assurance in investing at least find the Legit one and has a possibility to be adopted and to become successful .
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