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October 29, 2019, 05:58:00 AM
#51
investors work on chance as the supports on confirmation gives with one to put on exchange as referring resource on request with the number on returns as the plan run with customs as the casuals on entrance as investors work on attains to manage with distinctive on personality.

Investors work their own analysis, not by chance, because investors are also afraid of losing money if they invest in unclear projects, even though each project has a good plan, but an in-depth analysis is needed for all of us.
sr. member
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October 29, 2019, 05:53:49 AM
#50
not all ICOs are scams, there are also many very good ICOs, therefore we must be able to observe whether it is a scam or not by looking at the whitepaper, roadmap, and also the team that handles the project if we see from 3 above the origin of origin then it is at make sure scam.
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October 29, 2019, 05:02:20 AM
#49
investors work on chance as the supports on confirmation gives with one to put on exchange as referring resource on request with the number on returns as the plan run with customs as the casuals on entrance as investors work on attains to manage with distinctive on personality.
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October 29, 2019, 04:47:31 AM
#48
It is very difficult and complicated to find the solution because if it reveals your identity will be imprisoned, otherwise it considers the fraudsters, better the solution of moving the country alone, or join with your friends in a country that is legal crypto. A solid team form of different countries is not banned crypto.

but I dont know about countries, who exist withous AML. Algorithmic stablecoin are legal? No, I whink otherwise. Okey, fiat-backed cryptocurrency and AML practise in project - key for legalizy. But without AML, without fiat-backed, really? SEC dont like this. This coin maybe digital obligation in her eyes...
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October 29, 2019, 03:59:03 AM
#47
Sometimes I see rules for staring "good" ICO and one of all paragraph - deanon of creators. But exist countries, in which crypticurrency has been banned and creators have a chance go to jail to 5+ years (examle, Ukraine (if project have a anonymous coin transfer/stablecoins)). If I dont write about myself, I am a scammer (thinked users of bitcointalk). If I write - Im will a convict. What to do?


This year is not like 2017, in 2017 projects are very beneficial for all of us even though there are in countries that do not agree with the crypto, but now if you have the intention to launch an ICO, you better think again, because now there are many projects that unclear and failed, I think with an event like this crypto must think hard to restore everything like 2017.

But Im not want seat in jail... I think about idea for will writing email for waves/ethereum foundadion, but in habrahabr (big russian platform for IT people) i read about projects, who receive a support. They has a good team and technical idea in blockchain industry. But I have idea only in monetary sphere and I dont know, they interesting this or no... And this facts are sad.
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October 29, 2019, 03:49:12 AM
#46

But for creating good coin need time and scilled labor => money. I talked with 10-15 teams, who have a cryptocoin and they talked me, what coin costed 5-10-15K usd only. But yet need mining pool, e-wallet and other tools for using. And for this target I want create ICO.

Really? Did satoshi need money to create the best coin in the world?

Skilled labor doesn't always need to be paid for, which is the main difference with coins these days. In the old days people used to passionately create their own things and build their own products with their own hands.

Today? Hire Fiverr developers.

If you a programmer - okey, without problem. But if you are economist or physicist - oh...
I dont know about Hire Fiverr developers... Please, send link information about this people.
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October 29, 2019, 03:47:31 AM
#45
it's arguably very complicated, but in the ICO Project you have to use your real name, original photo and everything if you can't do that means you are scammers, and it's better not to just follow it better than you are imprisoned, I am very respectful of you about your interest in cryptocurrency
Of course, if you want to create an ICO project then you have to enter your original data, original photos etc. Now what the scammers do is they are falsifying data so that it makes the name Crypto being bad in the eyes of investors.
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October 29, 2019, 03:44:17 AM
#44

But for creating good coin need time and scilled labor => money. I talked with 10-15 teams, who have a cryptocoin and they talked me, what coin costed 5-10-15K usd only. But yet need mining pool, e-wallet and other tools for using. And for this target I want create ICO.

Really? Did satoshi need money to create the best coin in the world?

Skilled labor doesn't always need to be paid for, which is the main difference with coins these days. In the old days people used to passionately create their own things and build their own products with their own hands.

Today? Hire Fiverr developers.
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Activity: 546
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October 29, 2019, 03:41:16 AM
#43
If I dont write about myself, I am a scammer (thinked users of bitcointalk). If I write - Im will a convict. What to do?

I tell you what to do here. I see you are a junior member, then you try to build your account to at least senior member. At this level, you know if you are genuine, you can get people to believe you here and you can introduce what you have, although amidst skepticism.

Being a Senior member can also help build trust, but the focus of this project is on whether or not it can be trusted by investors.

And to build trust you have to have a unique project idea or product that can contribute significantly to crypto currency. So start your project today so you can build trust with investors. Make your telegram group now or if you have a friend in another country you can trust, you can contact him or her to be your representative and partner in your project.

Group in telegram - its good. But who will read posts in this group? I speak only in russian/ukrainian. But people, who speak in this language too, dont think about future in cryptoworld. Who know only about increase they capital. You know about fact, IEO in Binance - 100% good project? And people in russian tree wish a create budget (400 BTC) and cryptocoin and pay to listing in Binance. Without idea, without team, maybe without a brain... Only for increase  capital...
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October 29, 2019, 03:32:29 AM
#42
If I dont write about myself, I am a scammer (thinked users of bitcointalk). If I write - Im will a convict. What to do?

I tell you what to do here. I see you are a junior member, then you try to build your account to at least senior member. At this level, you know if you are genuine, you can get people to believe you here and you can introduce what you have, although amidst skepticism.

Being a Senior member can also help build trust, but the focus of this project is on whether or not it can be trusted by investors.

And to build trust you have to have a unique project idea or product that can contribute significantly to crypto currency. So start your project today so you can build trust with investors. Make your telegram group now or if you have a friend in another country you can trust, you can contact him or her to be your representative and partner in your project.
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October 29, 2019, 03:25:52 AM
#41
I think this is what makes the name cryptocurrency worse because many projects are scams and many developers are playing with the name cryptocurrency for their crimes so that a very bad impact occurs.

No-no-no. If you create dont legalize stablecoin - you make a surrogate money. Its a crime. And you have chance to go the jail. It does not matter - you make a good coin or a scammers project - go to jail. And this facts are sad.
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October 29, 2019, 02:58:48 AM
#40
it's arguably very complicated, but in the ICO Project you have to use your real name, original photo and everything if you can't do that means you are scammers, and it's better not to just follow it better than you are imprisoned, I am very respectful of you about your interest in cryptocurrency
I think he's trying to say that cryptocurrencies is banned in his country so how he'll be able to create his own project without letting them know his identity that might caused him to be imprisoned soon. It's indeed complicated but he can team up in some teams in different country to atleast registered their project so it will not be a scammy project since investors needs to know once identity of the team now. It's better to be honest in all terms than to be tag as scammer.

If exist people, who like new in cryptoworld and invested in my project, of course, I will meeting with he/she. But legal institutions will dont know about me in project. And, about legalization, you know about TON/Libra? If you create small, dont terrible project for Central Bank - okey, but if you coin may using in illegal  target - no, you go (dont good word) or maybe go to prison.
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October 29, 2019, 02:46:04 AM
#39
So what exactly do you want to make ICO?
When viewed from the investor's side, yes they have the right to know who they are putting money for and what the money is for. Naturally, investors want to look for profit, which is offered by every developer.
Between developers and investors, they must live in different places, which is suspected to be a scam for developers. Therefore, it is mandatory for every developer to show his true identity. And that is part of the good character of ICO.
If you want to remain anonymous, it's better to make coins or tokens without ICO. As do the coins in 2017 distributed them for free.

But for creating good coin need time and scilled labor => money. I talked with 10-15 teams, who have a cryptocoin and they talked me, what coin costed 5-10-15K usd only. But yet need mining pool, e-wallet and other tools for using. And for this target I want create ICO.
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October 29, 2019, 02:36:24 AM
#38
The ICO and the Scammer are very interrelated, with this it is very difficult for us to distinguish between a really good ICO and a bad ICO, many people are greedy to want huge profits only for themselves, but I think this problem must be resolved immediately by the law may be, because this is very detrimental to all parties.

I think about this. Maybe exist variation for defence future money without hard law and coding work?
Special smart-contract or exchanges, who have special escrow tools?
sr. member
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October 29, 2019, 12:55:16 AM
#37
Now the ico project has been synonymous with scammers, but actually there are still many ico that have provided benefits for investors and of course this is the impact of the number of ico in 2018 which indeed is only a fraud so that the effect is quite fatal to the loss of trust of the investors to the current ico developers.
I think you need another way if your country indeed prohibits the implementation of ico crypto, maybe it's better if you appoint a team from several countries that allow ico to be implemented, and use other countries as the center of ico.

That's the reason why the ICO is dying, poor good projects, instead of having them, now, they can't exist because of those scammers that are not really satisfied and not contented in life, but, good thing we do have now IEO that saves project, as it give them chance to prove themselves, but still IEO has no guarantee at all.
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October 29, 2019, 12:32:57 AM
#36
Now the ico project has been synonymous with scammers, but actually there are still many ico that have provided benefits for investors and of course this is the impact of the number of ico in 2018 which indeed is only a fraud so that the effect is quite fatal to the loss of trust of the investors to the current ico developers.
I think you need another way if your country indeed prohibits the implementation of ico crypto, maybe it's better if you appoint a team from several countries that allow ico to be implemented, and use other countries as the center of ico.
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October 28, 2019, 11:38:06 PM
#35
This kind of situation can be answered by your owned assessment OP, how willing you are to proceed and take the risk. Either you proceed on your own or find partnerships outside your place, both have risk which been mentioned by those early replies coming from different forum members. It's your own decision whether to take that risk or find another business to invest your time, efforts and money. Value your intentions and if you are ready to proceed make sure to bring your trust beside you.
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October 28, 2019, 11:27:10 PM
#34
Your case seems complicated! I would suggest you obey your government's decision about not being public about crypto transactions as the punishment is very strict! You can use the crypto and this forum through a VPN, but in this place, you shouldn't conduct an ICO! Nowadays, raising startup funds through ICO is very difficult, if you don't show your team members and your profile, no one will invest in your project!
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October 28, 2019, 11:25:54 PM
#33
Sometimes I see rules for staring "good" ICO and one of all paragraph - deanon of creators. But exist countries, in which crypticurrency has been banned and creators have a chance go to jail to 5+ years (examle, Ukraine (if project have a anonymous coin transfer/stablecoins)). If I dont write about myself, I am a scammer (thinked users of bitcointalk). If I write - Im will a convict. What to do?
Looking transparent with ICO project is easy by owner, team and advice team ICO how manager of their coin, many ICO scam by less reached for selling target and they can't get profit with their ICO, but for owner will refund all of investor money but their coin have scam without continue for selling and listing with exchange market, investor not lucky with they hold money without increase.
hero member
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October 28, 2019, 11:09:13 PM
#32
Sometimes I see rules for staring "good" ICO and one of all paragraph - deanon of creators. But exist countries, in which crypticurrency has been banned and creators have a chance go to jail to 5+ years (examle, Ukraine (if project have a anonymous coin transfer/stablecoins)). If I dont write about myself, I am a scammer (thinked users of bitcointalk). If I write - Im will a convict. What to do?
Maybe recruit team from other countries, which is capable. I think team from a project not means must be in 1 country. You can be someone who work behind the project, or maybe can be advisor. Usually advisor is not means part of the team and look like expert who recruited to give suggestion to the project team. Or maybe just follow rules from your country and start different business.
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