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MoveCrypto

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Quote from: sunchaser on April 08, 2017, 02:35:42 PM

I think mendeleev is not a troll, and did report correctly some investor concerns about the situation.

I am hodling and I hope everything will be fine, but after the announce of the buyback i was immediately wondering what was the left value of the token.

O rly?

Quote from: Mendeleev on December 08, 2016, 09:59:07 PM

WARNING!

This coin is nothing but a scam coin!

All they have so far is a fancy whitepaper full of fancy words, and a QT clone wallet.

There is no product. No proof of concept. Nothing.

They latch onto Nicolas Dorier's ideas, and say "yeh this will be part of our product!"

What have you seen so far besides words? ... Nothing.

There is no nStratis. No sidechains. Nothing.

Nothing has been delivered beyond words, blog posts and a copy-paste PoS wallet.

This coin is a total scam. You might profit from Stratis if you're trading, and selling to idiots. Otherwise, you are throwing your money away!

Chris is a total scam artist who has seen how easy it is to scam people in crypto space.

This is not FUD. This is fact. Get out while you still can! Stratis is a SCAM!

Just take a moment to think about it!

Stratis price on 9 December when this was posted: 9k Satoshi

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll#Concern_troll

sunchaser

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Audaces Fortuna Iuvat

I think mendeleev is not a troll, and did report correctly some investor concerns about the situation.

I am hodling and I hope everything will be fine, but after the announce of the buyback i was immediately wondering what was the left value of the token.

Cinok

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Quote from: Flyingbits on April 08, 2017, 12:14:56 PM

Quote from: Cinok on April 08, 2017, 08:33:53 AM

Quote from: Daparski on April 08, 2017, 08:25:31 AM

Quote from: zahra4577 on April 08, 2017, 08:21:09 AM

Quote from: Cinok on April 08, 2017, 08:06:04 AM

Beta access received !! very good job team !!

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/960905Capturedu20170408140145.png

What is the minimum amount of ICN should I own to get access to the platform? .
By the time it will be available to general public it might be very expensive to invest in ICNX.
I want to get in early.

For public release you won't need to have ICN in order to use the platform.
For beta access you need to either be on the beta list (was open for registration back in December), or an ICO investor

Strongly that the platform be made public Moreover it seems that we can deposit our ICN !!!

Grin

Cinok, did you register for the beta test list in December?
When did ICONOMI send you the email with beta access?
You say you are able to deposit now your ICN in the plaftorm?

I never said that I could deposit my icn but that we will have the possibility to deposit our icn on the platform in the future. This was said by a staff of the team.

If you want this kind of information you just have to ask them about slack and allow them time to respond without the "harassing"

Flyingbits

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Quote from: Cinok on April 08, 2017, 08:33:53 AM

Quote from: Daparski on April 08, 2017, 08:25:31 AM

Quote from: zahra4577 on April 08, 2017, 08:21:09 AM

Quote from: Cinok on April 08, 2017, 08:06:04 AM

Beta access received !! very good job team !!

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/960905Capturedu20170408140145.png

What is the minimum amount of ICN should I own to get access to the platform? .
By the time it will be available to general public it might be very expensive to invest in ICNX.
I want to get in early.

For public release you won't need to have ICN in order to use the platform.
For beta access you need to either be on the beta list (was open for registration back in December), or an ICO investor

Strongly that the platform be made public Moreover it seems that we can deposit our ICN !!!

Grin

Cinok, did you register for the beta test list in December?
When did ICONOMI send you the email with beta access?
You say you are able to deposit now your ICN in the plaftorm?

The Crypto Baron

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Quote from: Mendeleev on April 08, 2017, 11:01:01 AM

Quote from: The Crypto Baron on April 08, 2017, 10:14:32 AM

Quote from: bitcircle on April 08, 2017, 09:54:03 AM

Quote from: The Crypto Baron on April 08, 2017, 09:20:47 AM

Been out of the country for a week, can anyone give me a quick rundown/cliffs notes of whatever drama is unfolding with ICN so I don't have to read through a dozen pages of FUD?

All things are clear ICN is growing so nice if you have some trust in dev than ignore all FUD. I am holding these tokens better option is that keep strong your mind and never feed the trolls.

Love ICN and will ignore it, certainly. But what is the FUDing even about?

As a resident fudder, I will get you up to speed:

Communication levels not to everyone's satisfaction.

Concerns about buybacks, rights, trust etc. and lack of adequate response from Jani on reddit (dismissed as fud, and has refused to clarify whether or not ICN represents ownership)

Members leaving to start cofound.it has raised suspicions in some people.

Valid queries on official reddit were being deleted, so a couple of /r/ethtrader members are warning people to tread carefully now, as that sort of censorship is a red flag.

Consider this a list in response to your question, and nothing more (I agree with some of it, but this is purely to get you up to speed)

One positive: Jani has said a Q1 expense report is coming soon.

Appreciate you taking the time to summarize.

None of that adversely impacts my view on ICN, so off to grab more.

Enjorlas

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Quote from: The Crypto Baron on April 08, 2017, 09:20:47 AM

Been out of the country for a week, can anyone give me a quick rundown/cliffs notes of whatever drama is unfolding with ICN so I don't have to read through a dozen pages of FUD?

Oh God... there is no drama. We are just under fud attack by a troll/trolls again. They switched up their tactics from the last batch and are using concern trolling to fly under the radar. Why Daparski is allowing this is beyond me.

Mendeleev

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Quote from: The Crypto Baron on April 08, 2017, 10:14:32 AM

Quote from: bitcircle on April 08, 2017, 09:54:03 AM

Quote from: The Crypto Baron on April 08, 2017, 09:20:47 AM

Been out of the country for a week, can anyone give me a quick rundown/cliffs notes of whatever drama is unfolding with ICN so I don't have to read through a dozen pages of FUD?

All things are clear ICN is growing so nice if you have some trust in dev than ignore all FUD. I am holding these tokens better option is that keep strong your mind and never feed the trolls.

Love ICN and will ignore it, certainly. But what is the FUDing even about?

As a resident fudder, I will get you up to speed:

Communication levels not to everyone's satisfaction.

Concerns about buybacks, rights, trust etc. and lack of adequate response from Jani on reddit (dismissed as fud, and has refused to clarify whether or not ICN represents ownership)

Members leaving to start cofound.it has raised suspicions in some people.

Valid queries on official reddit were being deleted, so a couple of /r/ethtrader members are warning people to tread carefully now, as that sort of censorship is a red flag.

Consider this a list in response to your question, and nothing more (I agree with some of it, but this is purely to get you up to speed)

One positive: Jani has said a Q1 expense report is coming soon.

The Crypto Baron

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Quote from: bitcircle on April 08, 2017, 09:54:03 AM

Quote from: The Crypto Baron on April 08, 2017, 09:20:47 AM

Been out of the country for a week, can anyone give me a quick rundown/cliffs notes of whatever drama is unfolding with ICN so I don't have to read through a dozen pages of FUD?

All things are clear ICN is growing so nice if you have some trust in dev than ignore all FUD. I am holding these tokens better option is that keep strong your mind and never feed the trolls.

Love ICN and will ignore it, certainly. But what is the FUDing even about?

bitcircle

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Quote from: The Crypto Baron on April 08, 2017, 09:20:47 AM

Been out of the country for a week, can anyone give me a quick rundown/cliffs notes of whatever drama is unfolding with ICN so I don't have to read through a dozen pages of FUD?

All things are clear ICN is growing so nice if you have some trust in dev than ignore all FUD. I am holding these tokens better option is that keep strong your mind and never feed the trolls.

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Crypto is Life!

Quote from: The Crypto Baron on April 08, 2017, 09:20:47 AM

Been out of the country for a week, can anyone give me a quick rundown/cliffs notes of whatever drama is unfolding with ICN so I don't have to read through a dozen pages of FUD?

ICN added on shapeshift.io
FAQ released by Iconomi

The Crypto Baron

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Been out of the country for a week, can anyone give me a quick rundown/cliffs notes of whatever drama is unfolding with ICN so I don't have to read through a dozen pages of FUD?

Daparski

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Quote from: TheTruthIsOutThere on April 08, 2017, 08:28:52 AM

Quote from: Daparski on April 08, 2017, 08:22:42 AM

Quote from: TheTruthIsOutThere on April 08, 2017, 06:22:48 AM

Quote from: Daparski on April 08, 2017, 05:06:38 AM

Quote from: TheTruthIsOutThere on April 07, 2017, 08:00:44 PM

Quote from: MoveCrypto on April 07, 2017, 07:49:53 PM

Quote from: TheTruthIsOutThere on April 07, 2017, 07:47:41 PM

how much of the ICO funds is being used to pay for salaries of the ICONOMI team, if at all?

Do we get expenses reports?

https://www.reddit.com/r/ICONOMI/comments/63n2ql/how_is_iconomi_systemically_or_legally_bound_to/dfvowfv/

Quote from: jani8x

Q1 report will be out before month ends.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ICONOMI/comments/63rjxv/question_for_all_the_questionmakers/dfx9i09/

Quote from: jani8x

Q1 report is coming out any day.

would be nice to see how much jan and daniel from cofound.it were paid while they were at ICONOMI.....

you won't see individual salaries. No company shows that. Would you want your salary to be made public (assuming you have a day job)?

well, since you are interested in my "day job", I am a neuroscientist involved in research on oligodendrogliomas......

I can send you my thesis if you want Daparski and you tell me what you think?

okay?

now this little part is taken care of, i expect at the very least for them to say how much of the ICO money they have used for salaries....

Grin

PS: https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=1425

Furthermore, a pre-payment of around 200,000 EUR (213.610 CHF) was conducted to the lightcurve GmbH which handles development, marketing and community support.

Max, bless him, at least admits that he paid himself and Oliver around 200,000 EUR via his Lightcurve bs....

I couldn't care less what you do for living..
You just confirmed that you are nothing more than a fake troll account.
The question was:

Quote

No company shows that. Would you want your salary to be made public (assuming you have a day job)?

It's really funny how when one asks any questions relating to transparency, one is immediately labelled a "TROLL"

Well, if asking for the truth makes me a Troll, then, yes, I am proud to admit than I am a "Troll"

At least, it's better than being an unpaid blind shill who will abandon his moralities in the hope that his constant shilling will somehow prevent

investors from asking pertinent and totally legitimate questions.

You weren't labeled as troll immediately , the original response was

Quote

you won't see individual salaries. No company shows that. Would you want your salary to be made public (assuming you have a day job)?

You chose to ignore that simple question simply because you are not here to discuss things.

Fact still remains the same - no company in the world is yet to publish its employees salaries. No reason for Iconomi to be the first.

What I'd like to see is expenses breakdown - infrastructure, legal, salaries, etc

Cinok

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Quote from: Cinok on April 08, 2017, 08:52:50 AM

Quote from: Daparski on April 08, 2017, 08:49:36 AM

Quote from: btvGainer on April 08, 2017, 08:42:23 AM

Quote from: Daparski on April 08, 2017, 08:25:31 AM

Quote from: zahra4577 on April 08, 2017, 08:21:09 AM

Quote from: Cinok on April 08, 2017, 08:06:04 AM

Beta access received !! very good job team !!

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/960905Capturedu20170408140145.png

What is the minimum amount of ICN should I own to get access to the platform? .
By the time it will be available to general public it might be very expensive to invest in ICNX.
I want to get in early.

For public release you won't need to have ICN in order to use the platform.
For beta access you need to either be on the beta list (was open for registration back in December), or an ICO investor

Does it mean people who have ICN will not be counted as ICO investors and they will also not get access before general public? because the only way ICONOMI can distinguish between ICO investors and other ICN holders will be those having ICN on ICONOMI site.

ICO participants were using an email to register for the ICO. Beta invitation will be sent to these emails

Pay your mega boom moon ICN when the platform is operational (because it is really intuitive and efficient).

ta gueule salope

funny how a hyping account just emerged when demands for transparency are made.

Roll Eyes

Why are you vulgar? You are a weak and simple-minded? That said your posts and thoughts say enough about your mental health .....

Cinok

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Quote from: Daparski on April 08, 2017, 08:49:36 AM

Quote from: btvGainer on April 08, 2017, 08:42:23 AM

Quote from: Daparski on April 08, 2017, 08:25:31 AM

Quote from: zahra4577 on April 08, 2017, 08:21:09 AM

Quote from: Cinok on April 08, 2017, 08:06:04 AM

Beta access received !! very good job team !!

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/960905Capturedu20170408140145.png

What is the minimum amount of ICN should I own to get access to the platform? .
By the time it will be available to general public it might be very expensive to invest in ICNX.
I want to get in early.

For public release you won't need to have ICN in order to use the platform.
For beta access you need to either be on the beta list (was open for registration back in December), or an ICO investor

Does it mean people who have ICN will not be counted as ICO investors and they will also not get access before general public? because the only way ICONOMI can distinguish between ICO investors and other ICN holders will be those having ICN on ICONOMI site.

ICO participants were using an email to register for the ICO. Beta invitation will be sent to these emails

Pay your mega boom moon ICN when the platform is operational (because it is really intuitive and efficient).

Daparski

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Quote from: btvGainer on April 08, 2017, 08:42:23 AM

Quote from: Daparski on April 08, 2017, 08:25:31 AM

Quote from: zahra4577 on April 08, 2017, 08:21:09 AM

Quote from: Cinok on April 08, 2017, 08:06:04 AM

Beta access received !! very good job team !!

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/960905Capturedu20170408140145.png

What is the minimum amount of ICN should I own to get access to the platform? .
By the time it will be available to general public it might be very expensive to invest in ICNX.
I want to get in early.

For public release you won't need to have ICN in order to use the platform.
For beta access you need to either be on the beta list (was open for registration back in December), or an ICO investor

Does it mean people who have ICN will not be counted as ICO investors and they will also not get access before general public? because the only way ICONOMI can distinguish between ICO investors and other ICN holders will be those having ICN on ICONOMI site.

ICO participants were using an email to register for the ICO. Beta invitation will be sent to these emails

btvGainer

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Quote from: Daparski on April 08, 2017, 08:25:31 AM

Quote from: zahra4577 on April 08, 2017, 08:21:09 AM

Quote from: Cinok on April 08, 2017, 08:06:04 AM

Beta access received !! very good job team !!

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/960905Capturedu20170408140145.png

What is the minimum amount of ICN should I own to get access to the platform? .
By the time it will be available to general public it might be very expensive to invest in ICNX.
I want to get in early.

For public release you won't need to have ICN in order to use the platform.
For beta access you need to either be on the beta list (was open for registration back in December), or an ICO investor

Does it mean people who have ICN will not be counted as ICO investors and they will also not get access before general public? because the only way ICONOMI can distinguish between ICO investors and other ICN holders will be those having ICN on ICONOMI site.

Cinok

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Quote from: Daparski on April 08, 2017, 08:25:31 AM

Quote from: zahra4577 on April 08, 2017, 08:21:09 AM

Quote from: Cinok on April 08, 2017, 08:06:04 AM

Beta access received !! very good job team !!

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/960905Capturedu20170408140145.png

What is the minimum amount of ICN should I own to get access to the platform? .
By the time it will be available to general public it might be very expensive to invest in ICNX.
I want to get in early.

For public release you won't need to have ICN in order to use the platform.
For beta access you need to either be on the beta list (was open for registration back in December), or an ICO investor

Strongly that the platform be made public Moreover it seems that we'll be able to deposit our ICN !!!

Grin

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Quote from: Daparski on April 08, 2017, 08:22:42 AM

Quote from: TheTruthIsOutThere on April 08, 2017, 06:22:48 AM

Quote from: Daparski on April 08, 2017, 05:06:38 AM

Quote from: TheTruthIsOutThere on April 07, 2017, 08:00:44 PM

Quote from: MoveCrypto on April 07, 2017, 07:49:53 PM

Quote from: TheTruthIsOutThere on April 07, 2017, 07:47:41 PM

how much of the ICO funds is being used to pay for salaries of the ICONOMI team, if at all?

Do we get expenses reports?

https://www.reddit.com/r/ICONOMI/comments/63n2ql/how_is_iconomi_systemically_or_legally_bound_to/dfvowfv/

Quote from: jani8x

Q1 report will be out before month ends.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ICONOMI/comments/63rjxv/question_for_all_the_questionmakers/dfx9i09/

Quote from: jani8x

Q1 report is coming out any day.

would be nice to see how much jan and daniel from cofound.it were paid while they were at ICONOMI.....

you won't see individual salaries. No company shows that. Would you want your salary to be made public (assuming you have a day job)?

well, since you are interested in my "day job", I am a neuroscientist involved in research on oligodendrogliomas......

I can send you my thesis if you want Daparski and you tell me what you think?

okay?

now this little part is taken care of, i expect at the very least for them to say how much of the ICO money they have used for salaries....

Grin

PS: https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=1425

Furthermore, a pre-payment of around 200,000 EUR (213.610 CHF) was conducted to the lightcurve GmbH which handles development, marketing and community support.

Max, bless him, at least admits that he paid himself and Oliver around 200,000 EUR via his Lightcurve bs....

I couldn't care less what you do for living..
You just confirmed that you are nothing more than a fake troll account.
The question was:

Quote

No company shows that. Would you want your salary to be made public (assuming you have a day job)?

It's really funny how when one asks any questions relating to transparency, one is immediately labelled a "TROLL"

Well, if asking for the truth makes me a Troll, then, yes, I am proud to admit than I am a "Troll"

At least, it's better than being an unpaid blind shill who will abandon his moralities in the hope that his constant shilling will somehow prevent

investors from asking pertinent and totally legitimate questions.

Daparski

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Quote from: zahra4577 on April 08, 2017, 08:21:09 AM

Quote from: Cinok on April 08, 2017, 08:06:04 AM

Beta access received !! very good job team !!

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/960905Capturedu20170408140145.png

What is the minimum amount of ICN should I own to get access to the platform? .
By the time it will be available to general public it might be very expensive to invest in ICNX.
I want to get in early.

For public release you won't need to have ICN in order to use the platform.
For beta access you need to either be on the beta list (was open for registration back in December), or an ICO investor

Daparski

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Quote from: TheTruthIsOutThere on April 08, 2017, 06:22:48 AM

Quote from: Daparski on April 08, 2017, 05:06:38 AM

Quote from: TheTruthIsOutThere on April 07, 2017, 08:00:44 PM

Quote from: MoveCrypto on April 07, 2017, 07:49:53 PM

Quote from: TheTruthIsOutThere on April 07, 2017, 07:47:41 PM

how much of the ICO funds is being used to pay for salaries of the ICONOMI team, if at all?

Do we get expenses reports?

https://www.reddit.com/r/ICONOMI/comments/63n2ql/how_is_iconomi_systemically_or_legally_bound_to/dfvowfv/

Quote from: jani8x

Q1 report will be out before month ends.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ICONOMI/comments/63rjxv/question_for_all_the_questionmakers/dfx9i09/

Quote from: jani8x

Q1 report is coming out any day.

would be nice to see how much jan and daniel from cofound.it were paid while they were at ICONOMI.....

you won't see individual salaries. No company shows that. Would you want your salary to be made public (assuming you have a day job)?

well, since you are interested in my "day job", I am a neuroscientist involved in research on oligodendrogliomas......

I can send you my thesis if you want Daparski and you tell me what you think?

okay?

now this little part is taken care of, i expect at the very least for them to say how much of the ICO money they have used for salaries....

Grin

PS: https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=1425

Furthermore, a pre-payment of around 200,000 EUR (213.610 CHF) was conducted to the lightcurve GmbH which handles development, marketing and community support.

Max, bless him, at least admits that he paid himself and Oliver around 200,000 EUR via his Lightcurve bs....

I couldn't care less what you do for living..
You just confirmed that you are nothing more than a fake troll account.
The question was:

Quote

No company shows that. Would you want your salary to be made public (assuming you have a day job)?

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