If Anarchy can work, how come there are no historical records of it working? - page 19.

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Quote from: RodeoX on March 22, 2013, 12:26:49 PM

Quote from: justusranvier on March 22, 2013, 10:34:01 AM

Quote from: RodeoX on March 22, 2013, 10:27:36 AM

I don't know guys. I think anarchy is like communism. It sounds great on paper, but doesn't scale well beyond a commune.

Anarchy is everything you enjoy in life, and violence is the opposite.

Personally I might do well in an anarchy. But make no mistake I would organize an army and take what I want. I would charge you tribute or burn your village, take slaves, etc.
Join me and be with the strong! In exchange for your unwavering obedience and occasional military service I will allow you to live in peace.
Gota love anarchy!

What you describe is not "anarchy," but an attempt (by you) to set up a state.

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Quote from: justusranvier on March 22, 2013, 10:34:01 AM

Quote from: RodeoX on March 22, 2013, 10:27:36 AM

I don't know guys. I think anarchy is like communism. It sounds great on paper, but doesn't scale well beyond a commune.

Anarchy is everything you enjoy in life, and violence is the opposite.

Personally I might do well in an anarchy. But make no mistake I would organize an army and take what I want. I would charge you tribute or burn your village, take slaves, etc.
Join me and be with the strong! In exchange for your unwavering obedience and occasional military service I will allow you to live in peace.
Gota love anarchy!

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Quote from: RodeoX on March 22, 2013, 10:27:36 AM

I don't know guys. I think anarchy is like communism. It sounds great on paper, but doesn't scale well beyond a commune.

Anarchy is everything you enjoy in life, and violence is the opposite.

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I don't know guys. I think anarchy is like communism. It sounds great on paper, but doesn't scale well beyond a commune.

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The best arguments in favor of anarchy I've seen required war, slavery, and ethnic clensing. I suppose they do work if you look at it this way. In the end, we will have to kill each other. One of us will claim to be the anarchist and the other a statistic to support the claim.

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Quote from: MoonShadow on March 20, 2013, 07:43:23 PM

Quote from: justusranvier on March 20, 2013, 07:38:47 PM

Before it was abolished, nobody knew how the cotton would get picked without slave labor. After they stopped using humans as property somebody figured it out.

Technically, Eli Whitney had it figured out well before that...

Well, he figured out how to get the seeds from the fibers, but not the boll off the plant. All he really did was make slavery more profitable. Wink

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Quote from: MoonShadow on March 20, 2013, 07:53:49 PM

Quote from: Woodcock36 on March 20, 2013, 07:51:44 PM

I think the reason most people don't believe that Anarchy can work is that they don't understand the true nature of anarchism. It isn't spraypainting A's on buildings and acting a fool, as is shown in any news report about anarchists. I myself feel that any group of true friends in any city, town, state has the ability to function as an anarchist societal model. But that's just my two pennies.

There is more to it than that, as there have been many other names for the same basic idea. None of them seem to ever be well received regardless of the common preception of the terms used.

Forgive me, I tend to oversimplify things.

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Quote from: Woodcock36 on March 20, 2013, 07:51:44 PM

I think the reason most people don't believe that Anarchy can work is that they don't understand the true nature of anarchism. It isn't spraypainting A's on buildings and acting a fool, as is shown in any news report about anarchists. I myself feel that any group of true friends in any city, town, state has the ability to function as an anarchist societal model. But that's just my two pennies.

There is more to it than that, as there have been many other names for the same basic idea. None of them seem to ever be well received regardless of the common preception of the terms used.

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I think the reason most people don't believe that Anarchy can work is that they don't understand the true nature of anarchism. It isn't spraypainting A's on buildings and acting a fool, as is shown in any news report about anarchists. I myself feel that any group of true friends in any city, town, state has the ability to function as an anarchist societal model. But that's just my two pennies.

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Quote from: justusranvier on March 20, 2013, 07:38:47 PM

Before it was abolished, nobody knew how the cotton would get picked without slave labor. After they stopped using humans as property somebody figured it out.

+1

Legislation encourages innovation.

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Quote from: justusranvier on March 20, 2013, 07:38:47 PM

Before it was abolished, nobody knew how the cotton would get picked without slave labor. After they stopped using humans as property somebody figured it out.

Technically, Eli Whitney had it figured out well before that...

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Before it was abolished, nobody knew how the cotton would get picked without slave labor. After they stopped using humans as property somebody figured it out.

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Quote from: MoonShadow on March 20, 2013, 05:26:28 PM

http://mises.org/daily/1121

There are. Here is one that lasted for longer than the United States has been an independent country, before they had their first civil war.

My first thought was "More like, 'Why do people keep asking this question?'," but then I saw you were on my side. Wink

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This is absolutely eye opening. This described the perfect capitalistic society.

Just the fact that wars were extremely costly and kept very short is enough to appeal to anyone. And considering this was a time period without the luxury of the technologies we hold today, it's only that much more amazing it worked for so long.

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http://mises.org/daily/1121

There are. Here is one that lasted for longer than the United States has been an independent country, before they had their first civil war.

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