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Guys, do you often feel like me? when I raise the bet I lose and when I lower the bet I win. Does the casino system/algorithm know the betting patterns we make? So often when we bet big we are given a loss and when our bet is small we actually win, which is very annoying

I don't know if this applies to all games or not, but I feel like this often when playing table games. What do you think?
I thought as much too, I am in thesame condition as you. Each time I play to win a bigger amount I lose. but each time I also play to win a lesser amoun, I win though it does not necessarily mean that it applies to all times but some times. Sometimes I question myself about that. but what I do in recent times is that I play Niger amount with lesser odd like gambling $10 with 2 or 3 off to win $20 or $30 instead of playing $1 with 30odd or 20odd, atleast it will increase my chances of winning.
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Guys, do you often feel like me? when I raise the bet I lose and when I lower the bet I win. Does the casino system/algorithm know the betting patterns we make? So often when we bet big we are given a loss and when our bet is small we actually win, which is very annoying

I don't know if this applies to all games or not, but I feel like this often when playing table games. What do you think?

Gambling doesn't determine when a person will win, maybe you just have bad luck. But if you take some time off from gambling then your addiction will be less and you will be able to win properly. Gambling requires some rest if you adopt these strategies you will surely win. You control your emotions, every time you decide to gamble with more money your emotions will work to win in a new way. So in the greed of more money you can deviate from the right decision so whatever money you use take the right decision, emotions will be controlled and you will surely win in gambling.
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If you want to gamble responsibly then there are 2 things to pay attention to, namely set a fund limit for gambling and cut profits after winning, so if we follow these rules then we don't need to worry about losing in gambling because losses will not have an impact on financial losses if we have set a fund limit for gambling and we have to take high profits after winning bets.

I have analyzed several gamblers who use different betting levels, the comparison scale of wins and losses is very different from the betting level, if you bet high then the level of loss is higher which has the potential for you to lose all your balance and if you gamble with a low betting level it will give you a winning streak to encourage you to increase your bet in the hope of winning at a high bet.
Actually, many things must be done to be able to gamble responsibly, but you have given two important things that a gambler must do. Yes, that's what every gambler must remember when gambling so that he doesn't exceed his limits in gambling.
Don't chase win because it is difficult to get and we should use gambling as a way to have fun. It helps us to prevent big losses so that we won't be too sad if we lose because we already have clear boundaries in gambling.
Even though many gamblers gamble excessively, we should not be like them because this is our money and we must be responsible for our money and ourselves. By always applying clear boundaries, we can use gambling as entertainment and also as a place to have fun.
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if you bet small and always win, why not keep betting small?  Grin

I also feel the same before, but on my end I know that it is just the way it is I risk my money on it so there is a chance to lose.
It is just that we focus on profit and ignored the fact that we could lose no matter how much we put on the game.
The amount of our bet doesn't really matter, and be honest there are times that when you bet a huge amount and win this kind of things doesn't come up to your mind.
You would only think about it when you lose.

i didn't notice all these anymore in my bets actually. i guess that was the time when i was new in Bitcoin casino where i only played slot and dice but after some time that i got into sports, i tend to bet irregular amounts. as sometimes i had to bet against my original bet just to lessen the amount to lose. sports is like a different business than casino games.
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Not only you but actually I experience the same that's the reason why I got frustrated and quit immediately since that indicate that I'm not going to win whatever thing I do since bad luck hit so bad.

We don't know if this is due to algorithm of the casino but what we can do there is to quit. Also we should use reputable casino so that we will not experience a rigged system since if we play on new or not trusted casino then maybe we can really experience having those losing patterns since usually those casino that reputation is questionable might not be a provably fair ones.

Also its important for us not to bet wildly out of frustration so that we can save up our money and have capital to try again next time.
Gambling has this stupid turnout of events which makes us draw some kind of conclusions in out engagements. If you check properly, you bet with  small funds quite often and when it loses, you bad it easily, and then after sometime, you might hit a win, you attribute it to the small amount. Whereas you don't bet as often with big funds and you place a huge expectation whenever you bet with a higher amount.

I don't really think there's anything like losing when you  stake with bigger amount,  and winning when you stake with little amounts. its only you psychologically making emotional conclusions.
If you are gambling you have to get this correctly, winning on gamble doesn't depend on the amount you staked, it does not matter the amount you can afford to lose. If you stake high on games you will also lose and same when you stake low. Gambler that's staking low are gambling with what they can afford to lose, if you are also the kind of person that's gambling big you can also lose. For you yo win big you should also know you will risk big, it's not too rare to gamblers that winnings big with small money.
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Does the casino system/algorithm know the betting patterns we make?
Nope, every roll is unique and different from the previous ones.


This can actually be done with machine learning and data analytics. However, if the provider doing that, I believe this is an unfair provider and international gambling commissions wouldn't give a permission for provider, because they take advantage of the players' playing patterns, both in terms of betting and other gambling methods, and making their players lose because of system algorythm trapped players. So, regarding whether it is possible, of course the provider can analyze the players' playing patterns. Except for offline gambling where it may be difficult to analyze gambler patterns.
I think because of the availability of the house edge system which places the casino over the players and most especially in in-house games that have total control 9f the casino, it becomes difficult to monitor the game algorithm and because of that the casino has all the room to themselves to decide the outcome of the game, and this will always have the high determination to the outcome game.
And even if they have harsh claims to give the gamblers the ability to verify how the game outcome happens, it can still be manipulated to favour the casino as against the player.
The house edge is an important component in influencing the likelihood of winning or losing in a game of chance. And, while casinos may claim to be transparent about their algorithms and game results, there is always the possibility of manipulation. This is why gamblers must comprehend the dangers and be mindful of the house edge when playing games of chance.

However, there are some games of chance where the house edge is significantly lower than others. For example, if the player follows perfect strategy, the house edge in blackjack might be as low as 1%. This means that with the proper information and experience, you can win more often than in other games of chance. Craps has a tiny house edge of about 1-2%, and there are tactics that can assist players improve their odds. However, no matter what game you're playing, the house always has the advantage. Even in games with nearly even chances, such as roulette, the zero or double zero
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I also feel the same before, but on my end I know that it is just the way it is I risk my money on it so there is a chance to lose.
It is just that we focus on profit and ignored the fact that we could lose no matter how much we put on the game.
The amount of our bet doesn't really matter, and be honest there are times that when you bet a huge amount and win this kind of things doesn't come up to your mind.
You would only think about it when you lose.
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Bet small multiple times and bet often is the course of action I would answer with, I recognize the OP problem in that pressure and expectations can be a negative in outcomes somehow.   Gambling is an elusive art and slippery to master to the best of us, rather then try anything complicated I would rather just avoid what doesnt work.    Ideally many bets allows you to make the best of what you are gambling well and avoid the negative games you might be involved with.   Eventually leaning into your strengths ahead of the payoff so you win more then you lose is the ideal, have fun dont stress too much as it can undermine you certainly.
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Getting a small profit is actually enough for us, considering that many gamblers have failed to get it, so we don't need to continue gambling if we have won. We also still have plenty of time to gamble and don't need to worry about the gambling game because we can go back to gambling again another day. By having responsible gambling behavior, we can enjoy gambling as it is and don't need to experience gambling addiction.
We must be responsible for ourselves so we must always be careful when gambling. We should not lose more money because that could provide other greater risks.
If you want to gamble responsibly then there are 2 things to pay attention to, namely set a fund limit for gambling and cut profits after winning, so if we follow these rules then we don't need to worry about losing in gambling because losses will not have an impact on financial losses if we have set a fund limit for gambling and we have to take high profits after winning bets.

I have analyzed several gamblers who use different betting levels, the comparison scale of wins and losses is very different from the betting level, if you bet high then the level of loss is higher which has the potential for you to lose all your balance and if you gamble with a low betting level it will give you a winning streak to encourage you to increase your bet in the hope of winning at a high bet.
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Not only you but actually I experience the same that's the reason why I got frustrated and quit immediately since that indicate that I'm not going to win whatever thing I do since bad luck hit so bad.

We don't know if this is due to algorithm of the casino but what we can do there is to quit. Also we should use reputable casino so that we will not experience a rigged system since if we play on new or not trusted casino then maybe we can really experience having those losing patterns since usually those casino that reputation is questionable might not be a provably fair ones.

Also its important for us not to bet wildly out of frustration so that we can save up our money and have capital to try again next time.
Gambling has this stupid turnout of events which makes us draw some kind of conclusions in out engagements. If you check properly, you bet with  small funds quite often and when it loses, you bad it easily, and then after sometime, you might hit a win, you attribute it to the small amount. Whereas you don't bet as often with big funds and you place a huge expectation whenever you bet with a higher amount.

I don't really think there's anything like losing when you  stake with bigger amount,  and winning when you stake with little amounts. its only you psychologically making emotional conclusions.
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That's right, that's better appreciate it by not gambling again when you've made a small profit, I mean rest your activity in gambling may for a few days. Also in my personal experience, if we are longer in the casino, the more our minds will want to try other games. Want to try your luck in other games, want to have fun with those small profit. Lucky if your profit can increase +++, but usually that doesn't happen to me.
By taking a break or even stopping gambling, we can keep away from the thought of continuing to gamble, which could cause us to experience a lot of losses. That will not give us a chance to win the gambling game but will only give us defeat.
We definitely don't want to experience more losses, so the only thing we can do is stop gambling. By stopping gambling, at least we can control ourselves so we don't experience more losses.
We can continue gambling on another day when thoughts of wanting to win no longer influence us. By always using gambling as entertainment, we avoid the possibility of experiencing gambling addiction.

That perspective on gambling reflects a balanced and realistic understanding of the activity. Making a small profit from gambling can be seen as a stroke of luck, considering that many individuals struggle to achieve even that level of success in their gambling endeavors. Gamblers need to appreciate these wins while also recognizing the inherent risks involved in gambling.

Setting limits on gambling activities and sticking to a predetermined budget are crucial steps in promoting responsible gambling behavior. By doing so, gamblers can enjoy the entertainment value of gambling without exposing themselves to excessive financial risk. Additionally, knowing when to stop, particularly after a win, can help mitigate the potential for further losses and maintain a positive overall experience. Gambling should not be relied upon as a means of generating consistent income. The odds are typically stacked against the player, and expecting to win consistently is unrealistic. By balancing the excitement of gambling with responsible behavior, individuals can maximize their enjoyment while safeguarding their financial well-being.
Getting a small profit is actually enough for us, considering that many gamblers have failed to get it, so we don't need to continue gambling if we have won. We also still have plenty of time to gamble and don't need to worry about the gambling game because we can go back to gambling again another day. By having responsible gambling behavior, we can enjoy gambling as it is and don't need to experience gambling addiction.
We must be responsible for ourselves so we must always be careful when gambling. We should not lose more money because that could provide other greater risks.
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Does the casino system/algorithm know the betting patterns we make?
Nope, every roll is unique and different from the previous ones.


This can actually be done with machine learning and data analytics. However, if the provider doing that, I believe this is an unfair provider and international gambling commissions wouldn't give a permission for provider, because they take advantage of the players' playing patterns, both in terms of betting and other gambling methods, and making their players lose because of system algorythm trapped players. So, regarding whether it is possible, of course the provider can analyze the players' playing patterns. Except for offline gambling where it may be difficult to analyze gambler patterns.
I think because of the availability of the house edge system which places the casino over the players and most especially in in-house games that have total control 9f the casino, it becomes difficult to monitor the game algorithm and because of that the casino has all the room to themselves to decide the outcome of the game, and this will always have the high determination to the outcome game.
And even if they have harsh claims to give the gamblers the ability to verify how the game outcome happens, it can still be manipulated to favour the casino as against the player.
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Does the casino system/algorithm know the betting patterns we make?
Nope, every roll is unique and different from the previous ones.


This can actually be done with machine learning and data analytics. However, if the provider doing that, I believe this is an unfair provider and international gambling commissions wouldn't give a permission for provider, because they take advantage of the players' playing patterns, both in terms of betting and other gambling methods, and making their players lose because of system algorythm trapped players. So, regarding whether it is possible, of course the provider can analyze the players' playing patterns. Except for offline gambling where it may be difficult to analyze gambler patterns.
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Does the casino system/algorithm know the betting patterns we make?
Nope, every roll is unique and different from the previous ones.

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So often when we bet big we are given a loss and when our bet is small we actually win, which is very annoying
I can understand your annoyance but remember that your chance of winning from a casino in the long run is small. Rather it will be the casino beating you in the long run and hence you might get into this logical fallacy where you think the casino is cheating you and rigging the rolls in order to make you lose, but it is not so.

Just be sure that the games you are playing are provably fair, if so the casino is legit.
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Well, I think it's just a coincidence. Because if so, and working in your case them why not bet small so you can win consistently, right? Just like in martingale strategy, if you increase your wager after loss, your mindset is recovering the losses quick by doing this strategy. But is it really working? No. Because there's no such consistent winning since losing is also inevitable.

Gambling is unpredictable, you can win or lose base on your luck. Therefore, regardless of how much you wager, if you're not lucky then you can't win.
It is a coincidence that happens to everyone. When we bet big, there are times that it's not going to hit big just as what we think it should be. That's why I agree that a gambler should just bet small so that there won't be hot takes like this and no regrets afterward when there are unfortunate moments upon betting. As for the martingale, it pushes us to bet more after each bets for the thinking that we might get lucky next. That's true with that comparison and it's hard to get on that idea when you've been stuck into doing so. We can conclude here to just gamble responsibly and gamble with the amount that you're okay and can afford to lose. So if there are moments that you can't accept, you'd just say to yourself that it's fine because you only bet small. But again with these moments, you'll have the realization again about what if you bet big and you win that time. I guess that's the cycle there and it's not going to stop anytime soon, we always have those times that we regret, we compare, we try to think again of what ifs and etc. pertaining to the result of our bets.
It was not just a coincidence because that always happens to most of us and I've found it why, it was because they feel unconscious when betting huge amounts leading to making wrong decisions, unlike betting a small amount where just feel okay if ever we lose. We're not sure if there is a pattern applied by most gambling sites but I think they know the behavior of the bettors based on their betting style. If we never calm down and just let our emotions decide, we will never have the chance to win.

I think this type of thing has always happened to us, as people who have always sought to win more and more, but when they give themselves the opportunity, we don't see if it's worth it or not, sometimes the bets are not enough or we think they can't be made. Nor should they do, I have experienced what they say, I have bet hard and I lose, then when I bet on cheap money I win, it is as if the casino knew my economic situation LOL , so those types of things are what make me not as a coherent person And using the logic teaches you to see that in casinos one has to be very astute, that one must be very careful about what there is and what one has.

When I was a rookie I thought that the casino took over our money and took our money just like that, then I began to understand that things are not like that, that the casinos have the advantage of the house, that the casinos have ways that sometimes make those Profits You have to take advantage of them, because then terrible streaks come where you just have to have a lot of time to understand how you decided to play.

But this is something that one knows after Having played so much , that the Casino does not steal, that the casino does not know the economic status of the person but that it is normal for the casinos to do their job well, as I said before The casino gives great opportunities and those opportunities must be taken advantage of, it is the moment where one has to bet harder , raise or Increase the bet after having a bet, and that only comes from Experience, Sometimes experience helps a lot, but even so we should not expect that we know a lot or that the things we do are the right ones, because sometimes a very old person can run out of money Easily, because sometimes we lose control with the emotions, with impulses, and that can happen, that is Why it is Better to Control money than Emotions, it is something that I have always Said.

Understanding the game goes beyond knowing when to gamble big or modest. The game is rigged by design, not against you. The casino plays on our desire to win large, not if they know your bank balance. It's about being smart about the casino, not just in it. The true win is resisting overbetting. As you said, experience teaches many things, but the most important is knowing when to quit

Healthy gambling requires defining and following boundaries. The biggest risk is assuming you can beat the house at their game. Responsible gambling is essential, not an oxymoron
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Guys, do you often feel like me? when I raise the bet I lose and when I lower the bet I win. Does the casino system/algorithm know the betting patterns we make? So often when we bet big we are given a loss and when our bet is small we actually win, which is very annoying

I don't know if this applies to all games or not, but I feel like this often when playing table games. What do you think?
It is just a misunderstanding because we are not keep big bet continuously must of the time we bet small amount for our limited budget but when suddenly we bet a big amount we loss because we was not lucky then. but our mindset understand that it is algorithm of casino site to cheat us.by the way if you are not a lucky person then do not bet big amount. always bet that amount which amount you afford to loss. otherwise gambling will kill you financially
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Guys, do you often feel like me? when I raise the bet I lose and when I lower the bet I win. Does the casino system/algorithm know the betting patterns we make? So often when we bet big we are given a loss and when our bet is small we actually win, which is very annoying

I don't know if this applies to all games or not, but I feel like this often when playing table games. What do you think?
What game do you play when you get something like this?
I have been in your position when playing dice or roulette. So when playing that game, I will definitely use a small bet. Yes, even if you get a little, at least you still win rather than betting a lot but losing.
In my opinion, it seems like the algorithm system of the game has been set in such a way that when you make a big bet you will lose.
Or it could just be luck. because I always made small bets but ended up running out
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There is also another point to consider.

Usually, large bets will be fewer than small bets.

This combined with the fact that most of the time you will lose, it means that there are way more chances to win when you bet less compared to betting high.

If you only win twice but lose five times betting low, you will remember as winning often.

If you bet only twice large and lost both times, you will be angry and assume you should have bet smaller.

In reality the odds are the same, but the brain makes up a story based on what you perceive.
I don't know if that's true or not, but it makes sense too, I'm sure all gamblers have felt this, where they bet using a small bet amount and can get a win and of course with the win they get, it makes their hands itch to want to increase the bet amount, and in the end I did place a bigger bet but never got a win, it just drained my finances. Is it possible that winning with a small bet amount is due to luck or is it the casino's rules? I don't understand it either but I've felt it.
It's true what you said, anger and emotions can happen when undesirable things happen, such as defeat, losing with a small or large betting amount is just as annoying if we can't accept reality then it will get worse too, but it's possible that defeat will occur after winning. big, where when we get a win we increase the bet amount and what happens is we lose until the winnings we have obtained are lost, which will be even more annoying and it is possible that we will become angry because we have done careless actions by continuing gambling after getting a big win.
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It was not just a coincidence because that always happens to most of us and I've found it why, it was because they feel unconscious when betting huge amounts leading to making wrong decisions, unlike betting a small amount where just feel okay if ever we lose. We're not sure if there is a pattern applied by most gambling sites but I think they know the behavior of the bettors based on their betting style. If we never calm down and just let our emotions decide, we will never have the chance to win.

There is also another point to consider.

Usually, large bets will be fewer than small bets.

This combined with the fact that most of the time you will lose, it means that there are way more chances to win when you bet less compared to betting high.

If you only win twice but lose five times betting low, you will remember as winning often.

If you bet only twice large and lost both times, you will be angry and assume you should have bet smaller.

In reality the odds are the same, but the brain makes up a story based on what you perceive.

Perfectly said,is always like that reason is because you can decide to choose lesser odd like 1.20 as wining odd,the possibility for that 1.20 odd to win is 90% and sometimes this odd fails,you can decide to boost it with 10k,on the contrary they end up with a score of draw that is lose for you,but when you predict like 120odds and it will play just exactly the way you predicted it,mean while you didn't play it with a higher amount,i think that is just how betting works.
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It was not just a coincidence because that always happens to most of us and I've found it why, it was because they feel unconscious when betting huge amounts leading to making wrong decisions, unlike betting a small amount where just feel okay if ever we lose. We're not sure if there is a pattern applied by most gambling sites but I think they know the behavior of the bettors based on their betting style. If we never calm down and just let our emotions decide, we will never have the chance to win.

There is also another point to consider.

Usually, large bets will be fewer than small bets.

This combined with the fact that most of the time you will lose, it means that there are way more chances to win when you bet less compared to betting high.

If you only win twice but lose five times betting low, you will remember as winning often.

If you bet only twice large and lost both times, you will be angry and assume you should have bet smaller.

In reality the odds are the same, but the brain makes up a story based on what you perceive.
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