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Pilate's wife warned him not to have anything to do with Jesus' prosecution because she had a bad dream about Jesus. So Pilate washed his hands in front of the Jews to show he has no hand in Jesus' death.

I think both Pilate and Mrs Pilate had not heard about Jesus because he only worked for three years. Pilate was questioning Jesus which means he didn't know who Jesus was, if he did, he would not have been questioning him. You don't ask people you know to introduce themselves all over again.
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Historically, it is proved that Jesus is not no miracle worker . Normal personality, which set the highest power . His miracles - false and framed. There are many facts that he was the son of the king , and that he was married and more. But many Vatican hides .
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Almost every nation in the world has had the opportunity to accept it, now. There are only a few tribes left in the jungles, that have not had the chance to hear about it (Christianity) yet, because of their remoteness. Once they have received the opportunity, there will be nothing left that has to be fulfilled. Then the end will come.

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Tribe people have their own God, they wouldn't be interested in your silly bible one.
Spoiler alert: Jesus isn't returning.

The religious elite have taken advantage of you and spoonfed you lies. Wake up!

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Jesus did magical tricks and illusions, not miracles.
I think exactly the same,that Jesus whas just a smart man who know what to say and when do it,making tricks  and illusions:
that was the reason the bible was created,everybody thought that he is really a son of god cause he can make impossible things... but in modern days nobody says that a magician is a child of god lol

No. This is not true. How can a mere magician cause such a stirring in the hearts and minds of people that Christianity is over a billion people after 2,000 years for it to be destroyed?

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you still use Roman letters...
I am not required to.


When a powerful structured empire decide to adopt a faith as its official religion everything changes. No divine acts necessary.
Empires decide nothing. People make decisions.


Stoicism is very close to most christan values...
Christian people have many values. Not all of them are the same. Not all of them are Christian all the time.

True Christian values are what the Bible teaches... God's love for fallen mankind, and His method of salvation for us. Obedience to commandments is a method that allows His salvation to work through the nations.


Understand the legal context at the time and you will see how this religion was perceived as necessary at the time of its implementation.

Yes, but it was first perceived as necessary by God. Then, God working through governmental people, has brought it to the world.

Almost every nation in the world has had the opportunity to accept it, now. There are only a few tribes left in the jungles, that have not had the chance to hear about it (Christianity) yet, because of their remoteness. Once they have received the opportunity, there will be nothing left that has to be fulfilled. Then the end will come.

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what is written in the bible ,, it is done, and who is Pilate compared to Jesus, I know that Pilate did not know what they doing, they didn't known what God's plan to humanity, even we.

It's very sad fact that Pilate didn't want to kill Jesus and tried everything in his power to avoid it.
Even his wife send him message and ask him not to kill Jesus.
Pilate even offered to Jews to choose between Jesus and thief, who will be liberated and who will bi killed, with hope that Jews will choose Jesus.
It didn't happen because Jew's priests was very afraid of Jesus and really pushed very hard Pi9late to kill him, even manipulated people in Jerusalem to demand Jesus's death.
If all people wanted his death, what Jesus could do?
Save his life but escape from Israel and forget his mission?
His only choice was to sacrifice his life and continue his mission from spiritual world, and bring spiritual salvation top believers.
 


You don't get my point... If pilate believed the miracles to be true, not a single Jews or all of them together could oppose Pilate. For him those locals were barbarians unable to understand civilization... This is the key aspect of my point. So if Pilate was proof positive of a miracle he would have bring this guy alive, and if it meant killing and or enslaving everyone that opposed his will, so be it, without a sorry. However as HIS reputation was on the line he could not bring an imposter or a fake back home. This would have had worst consquences for him than to exterminate everything single beings in those occupied territories.

Jesus did magical tricks and illusions, not miracles.
I think exactly the same,that Jesus whas just a smart man who know what to say and when do it,making tricks  and illusions:
that was the reason the bible was created,everybody thought that he is really a son of god cause he can make impossible things... but in modern days nobody says that a magician is a child of god lol

No. This is not true. How can a mere magician cause such a stirring in the hearts and minds of people that Christianity is over a billion people after 2,000 years for it to be destroyed?

Cool

you still use Roman letters... When a powerful structured empire decide to adopt a faith as its official religion everything changes. No divine acts necessary. Stoicism is very close to most christan values... Understand the legal context at the time and you will see how this religion was perceived as necessary at the time of its implementation.
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Jesus did magical tricks and illusions, not miracles.
I think exactly the same,that Jesus whas just a smart man who know what to say and when do it,making tricks  and illusions:
that was the reason the bible was created,everybody thought that he is really a son of god cause he can make impossible things... but in modern days nobody says that a magician is a child of god lol

No. This is not true. How can a mere magician cause such a stirring in the hearts and minds of people that Christianity is over a billion people after 2,000 years for it to be destroyed?

Cool

Easy when they have been deceived into believing he wasn't a magician.

His enterainment career was probably going smoothly until his tragic Houdini style "escape whilst nailed to a cross" stunt went badly wrong.



It didn't go wrong. He arose from the dead on the third day.    Cool

According to some of the gospels. They can't even agree on that
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Jesus did magical tricks and illusions, not miracles.
I think exactly the same,that Jesus whas just a smart man who know what to say and when do it,making tricks  and illusions:
that was the reason the bible was created,everybody thought that he is really a son of god cause he can make impossible things... but in modern days nobody says that a magician is a child of god lol

No. This is not true. How can a mere magician cause such a stirring in the hearts and minds of people that Christianity is over a billion people after 2,000 years for it to be destroyed?

Cool

Easy when they have been deceived into believing he wasn't a magician.

His enterainment career was probably going smoothly until his tragic Houdini style "escape whilst nailed to a cross" stunt went badly wrong.



It didn't go wrong. He arose from the dead on the third day.    Cool
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Jesus did magical tricks and illusions, not miracles.
I think exactly the same,that Jesus whas just a smart man who know what to say and when do it,making tricks  and illusions:
that was the reason the bible was created,everybody thought that he is really a son of god cause he can make impossible things... but in modern days nobody says that a magician is a child of god lol

No. This is not true. How can a mere magician cause such a stirring in the hearts and minds of people that Christianity is over a billion people after 2,000 years for it to be destroyed?

Cool

Easy when they have been deceived into believing he wasn't a magician.

His enterainment career was probably going smoothly until his tragic Houdini style "escape whilst nailed to a cross" stunt went badly wrong.

legendary
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Jesus did magical tricks and illusions, not miracles.
I think exactly the same,that Jesus whas just a smart man who know what to say and when do it,making tricks  and illusions:
that was the reason the bible was created,everybody thought that he is really a son of god cause he can make impossible things... but in modern days nobody says that a magician is a child of god lol

No. This is not true. How can a mere magician cause such a stirring in the hearts and minds of people that Christianity is over a billion people after 2,000 years for it to be destroyed?

Cool
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Jesus did magical tricks and illusions, not miracles.
I think exactly the same,that Jesus whas just a smart man who know what to say and when do it,making tricks  and illusions:
that was the reason the bible was created,everybody thought that he is really a son of god cause he can make impossible things... but in modern days nobody says that a magician is a child of god lol
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what is written in the bible ,, it is done, and who is Pilate compared to Jesus, I know that Pilate did not know what they doing, they didn't known what God's plan to humanity, even we.

you ever seen God?

Who seen God? angels? Devil?

All this does not make sense, if someone says that Jesus was destined to die, then the people are destined to be poor and others are meant to be rich, God writes the destiny of people? that God must be bad.

I do not believe what people have written in the Bible and the Koran.

Already spent many years and even today do not have people who died and resurrected to say that there is heaven, it would be easier God show us a miracle for people to believe in it, do not tell me that God does not like to be tempted.

People make their choices, make the best of themselves, some have more opportunities than others, but do not believe it has anything supernatural in people's lives.
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what is written in the bible ,, it is done, and who is Pilate compared to Jesus, I know that Pilate did not know what they doing, they didn't known what God's plan to humanity, even we.

It's very sad fact that Pilate didn't want to kill Jesus and tried everything in his power to avoid it.
Even his wife send him message and ask him not to kill Jesus.
Pilate even offered to Jews to choose between Jesus and thief, who will be liberated and who will bi killed, with hope that Jews will choose Jesus.
It didn't happen because Jew's priests was very afraid of Jesus and really pushed very hard Pi9late to kill him, even manipulated people in Jerusalem to demand Jesus's death.
If all people wanted his death, what Jesus could do?
Save his life but escape from Israel and forget his mission?
His only choice was to sacrifice his life and continue his mission from spiritual world, and bring spiritual salvation top believers.
 
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Do good Buddhists get sent to the "Lake Of Fire", since they didn't accept Jesus?

Of course. They could spend a lifetime helping others and making the world a better place. But afraid if there's no Jesus belief then into the old burning lake they go for eternity of unthinkable pain.

In contrast a person could spend a lifetime raping, stealing, killing, but 10 minutes before their death if they embraced Jesus for forgiveness up they would float up into the loving infinity of heaven.

Such a loving just god, who really sat down and thought it through properly, not at all flawed.  Roll Eyes



Lol, I agree and that's how most of relitards think and they still accept it. If ever a guy killed your mother and made a salvation they can still go to heaven that's what relitards says. So if you can do all evil things you can and just make a salvation before reaching your death.

I think that's reason why relitards thinks atheist are cruel, they reflect it with how they think that if there's no god they can do things they want and they can't behave on their own thinking.

So, is it better to go away from people and become a completely recluse hermit, just so that you don't kill people accidentally, a little bit, by affecting them in a slightly bad way, even though you may not mean to do so, but co it completely by accident?

Or is it better to remain among people so that you can benefit them to keep them alive and happy, if only by imparting some good words that cheer them up now and again?

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Do good Buddhists get sent to the "Lake Of Fire", since they didn't accept Jesus?

Of course. They could spend a lifetime helping others and making the world a better place. But afraid if there's no Jesus belief then into the old burning lake they go for eternity of unthinkable pain.

In contrast a person could spend a lifetime raping, stealing, killing, but 10 minutes before their death if they embraced Jesus for forgiveness up they would float up into the loving infinity of heaven.

Such a loving just god, who really sat down and thought it through properly, not at all flawed.  Roll Eyes



Lol, I agree and that's how most of relitards think and they still accept it. If ever a guy killed your mother and made a salvation they can still go to heaven that's what relitards says. So if you can do all evil things you can and just make a salvation before reaching your death.

I think that's reason why relitards thinks atheist are cruel, they reflect it with how they think that if there's no god they can do things they want and they can't behave on their own thinking.
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Jesus did magical tricks and illusions, not miracles.

nice ancient david blane. I thought he is an alien? according to ancient aliens
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what is written in the bible ,, it is done, and who is Pilate compared to Jesus, I know that Pilate did not know what they doing, they didn't known what God's plan to humanity, even we.
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Well IMO I think Jesus never did miracle to save himself from that is because he accomplished his mission by the assassination of him being finished. He saved all of humankind because of that.

You got it, man. Continue in your faith. Read the Bible more and more. Never give up on it.

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Do good Buddhists get sent to the "Lake Of Fire", since they didn't accept Jesus?

Of course. They could spend a lifetime helping others and making the world a better place. But afraid if there's no Jesus belief then into the old burning lake they go for eternity of unthinkable pain.

In contrast a person could spend a lifetime raping, stealing, killing, but 10 minutes before their death if they embraced Jesus for forgiveness up they would float up into the loving infinity of heaven.

Such a loving just god, who really sat down and thought it through properly, not at all flawed.  Roll Eyes



The thing is, most people who live a bad life, won't sit down in the last 10 minutes and embrace Jesus. That's part of the reason you and others are being shown the truth about God, so that even though you formally deny God, doubts about the truth of your denial are being placed into your mind. Then, if you are given a last 10 minutes, you just might turn and repent and be saved. But God knows when you are faking.

This life is gone for everybody in less than 100 years, usually. So who cares about their forgiveness? Let it be done, so that at least some of them can have eternal life. Eternal life is what is important. God thought it out well. And because of how great He is, it took Him less than 1 second to think it out well.

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Do good Buddhists get sent to the "Lake Of Fire", since they didn't accept Jesus?

Of course. They could spend a lifetime helping others and making the world a better place. But afraid if there's no Jesus belief then into the old burning lake they go for eternity of unthinkable pain.

In contrast a person could spend a lifetime raping, stealing, killing, but 10 minutes before their death if they embraced Jesus for forgiveness up they would float up into the loving infinity of heaven.

Such a loving just god, who really sat down and thought it through properly, not at all flawed.  Roll Eyes

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Do good Buddhists get sent to the "Lake Of Fire", since they didn't accept Jesus?
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