if my account has positive trust is it value pushed up?

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does the admins dont have any problem with this account trades ?

its fine with them as far as i know.
regulating account trades will be more of a problem as sellers will find other ways to sell it whenever they get caught

People have been openly trading accounts for a long time. See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=93.0

One of the main reasons is to attempt ROI on a signature campaign. People buy accounts, enroll in a signature campaign and post to get their money back.

But as more and more people doing that the value of the account decreases, its just supply & demand.

If it continues, then it will push down sig campaign rewards aswell ,not only account value.

Exactly, which is why I probably won't buy another account or sell this one. Over time account values and sig campaigns earning will depreciate in value over time.

Actually its better to sell it fast, because later on it will be valued less.

Its like with keynesian economics, how they make this consumerism economy work, they inflate the money out of your hands, so that you will be forced to shop all day so that you can buy things before the money in your hands evaporate in value.

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Quote from: RealBitcoin on August 21, 2015, 12:04:58 PM

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Quote from: Aku on August 16, 2015, 01:00:15 PM

does the admins dont have any problem with this account trades ?

its fine with them as far as i know.
regulating account trades will be more of a problem as sellers will find other ways to sell it whenever they get caught

People have been openly trading accounts for a long time. See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=93.0

One of the main reasons is to attempt ROI on a signature campaign. People buy accounts, enroll in a signature campaign and post to get their money back.

But as more and more people doing that the value of the account decreases, its just supply & demand.

If it continues, then it will push down sig campaign rewards aswell ,not only account value.

Exactly, which is why I probably won't buy another account or sell this one. Over time account values and sig campaigns earning will depreciate in value over time.

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Quote from: unholycactus on August 16, 2015, 01:04:59 PM

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Quote from: Aku on August 16, 2015, 01:00:15 PM

does the admins dont have any problem with this account trades ?

its fine with them as far as i know.
regulating account trades will be more of a problem as sellers will find other ways to sell it whenever they get caught

People have been openly trading accounts for a long time. See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=93.0

One of the main reasons is to attempt ROI on a signature campaign. People buy accounts, enroll in a signature campaign and post to get their money back.

But as more and more people doing that the value of the account decreases, its just supply & demand.

If it continues, then it will push down sig campaign rewards aswell ,not only account value.

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the value is definitely pushed up in my opinion as people usually sell it for much bigger cost than usual accounts in this forum

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Quote from: ObscureBean on August 21, 2015, 05:39:17 AM

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No violation of trust if the buyer is made aware prior to him making the purchase.

Do not misunderstand me, I find absolutely nothing wrong with people trying to get the best price for their accounts. I guess my initial comment was more a reflex than anything else Cheesy

In any case, let it be known here and now that I will never sell my account in this manner, regardless of the amount of BTC offered

thats if and only if the buyer is fine with that information becoming public knowledge, but yeah, i get what youre saying. however, i would expect most buyers wouldnt be fine with that.

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Quote from: ObscureBean on August 21, 2015, 04:16:58 AM

I think the admins should maintain a thread that tracks account ownership. There is no need to know who the new owner is but it would definitely be good for the seller to let people know he is no longer in control of the account, especially if it is an old account.

that's a lot of work to put on two people, and letting people know the account is sold could potentially lead to a red trust rating, which would significantly lower the value of the sold account.

Ok maybe a community maintained thread then. There is no reason for the account to receive negative trust, as a matter of fact it would be a blatant abuse of power if someone would do it just because the account has changed hands. Trading of accounts is not against forum rules. It would be the decent thing to do for the seller anyway, especially if he is trusted by a lot of people. I'm sure you wouldn't want somebody to use your name to scam people who've come to respect you on here.

The only thing wrong with that is that the sellers know that the price of the account will be higher if they don't mention that the account was sold. This means that there'll be a higher motivation to continue dealing accounts in private than telling everyone that you're selling it.

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Quote from: ObscureBean on August 21, 2015, 04:16:58 AM

I think the admins should maintain a thread that tracks account ownership. There is no need to know who the new owner is but it would definitely be good for the seller to let people know he is no longer in control of the account, especially if it is an old account.

that's a lot of work to put on two people, and letting people know the account is sold could potentially lead to a red trust rating, which would significantly lower the value of the sold account.

Ok maybe a community maintained thread then. There is no reason for the account to receive negative trust, as a matter of fact it would be a blatant abuse of power if someone would do it just because the account has changed hands. Trading of accounts is not against forum rules. It would be the decent thing to do for the seller anyway, especially if he is trusted by a lot of people. I'm sure you wouldn't want somebody to use your name to scam people who've come to respect you on here.

at the same time, if the seller/escrow are trusted, it would be a violation of said trust to let the world know x account was bought. of course, there's no rule about this when account trading, but its tacitly known enough to assume that people (the buyers) dont want that kind of information known when accounts trade hands.

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No violation of trust if the buyer is made aware prior to him making the purchase.

Do not misunderstand me, I find absolutely nothing wrong with people trying to get the best price for their accounts. I guess my initial comment was more a reflex than anything else Cheesy

In any case, let it be known here and now that I will never sell my account in this manner, regardless of the amount of BTC offered

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Quote from: ObscureBean on August 21, 2015, 04:35:49 AM

Quote from: subSTRATA on August 21, 2015, 04:25:12 AM

Quote from: ObscureBean on August 21, 2015, 04:16:58 AM

I think the admins should maintain a thread that tracks account ownership. There is no need to know who the new owner is but it would definitely be good for the seller to let people know he is no longer in control of the account, especially if it is an old account.

that's a lot of work to put on two people, and letting people know the account is sold could potentially lead to a red trust rating, which would significantly lower the value of the sold account.

Ok maybe a community maintained thread then. There is no reason for the account to receive negative trust, as a matter of fact it would be a blatant abuse of power if someone would do it just because the account has changed hands. Trading of accounts is not against forum rules. It would be the decent thing to do for the seller anyway, especially if he is trusted by a lot of people. I'm sure you wouldn't want somebody to use your name to scam people who've come to respect you on here.

at the same time, if the seller/escrow are trusted, it would be a violation of said trust to let the world know x account was bought. of course, there's no rule about this when account trading, but its tacitly known enough to assume that people (the buyers) dont want that kind of information known when accounts trade hands.

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Quote from: ObscureBean on August 21, 2015, 04:35:49 AM

Quote from: subSTRATA on August 21, 2015, 04:25:12 AM

Quote from: ObscureBean on August 21, 2015, 04:16:58 AM

I think the admins should maintain a thread that tracks account ownership. There is no need to know who the new owner is but it would definitely be good for the seller to let people know he is no longer in control of the account, especially if it is an old account.

that's a lot of work to put on two people, and letting people know the account is sold could potentially lead to a red trust rating, which would significantly lower the value of the sold account.

Ok maybe a community maintained thread then. There is no reason for the account to receive negative trust, as a matter of fact it would be a blatant abuse of power if someone would do it just because the account has changed hands. Trading of accounts is not against forum rules. It would be the decent thing to do for the seller anyway, especially if he is trusted by a lot of people. I'm sure you wouldn't want somebody to use your name to scam people who've come to respect you on here.

The only thing wrong with that is that the sellers know that the price of the account will be higher if they don't mention that the account was sold. This means that there'll be a higher motivation to continue dealing accounts in private than telling everyone that you're selling it.

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Quote from: subSTRATA on August 21, 2015, 04:25:12 AM

Quote from: ObscureBean on August 21, 2015, 04:16:58 AM

I think the admins should maintain a thread that tracks account ownership. There is no need to know who the new owner is but it would definitely be good for the seller to let people know he is no longer in control of the account, especially if it is an old account.

that's a lot of work to put on two people, and letting people know the account is sold could potentially lead to a red trust rating, which would significantly lower the value of the sold account.

Ok maybe a community maintained thread then. There is no reason for the account to receive negative trust, as a matter of fact it would be a blatant abuse of power if someone would do it just because the account has changed hands. Trading of accounts is not against forum rules. It would be the decent thing to do for the seller anyway, especially if he is trusted by a lot of people. I'm sure you wouldn't want somebody to use your name to scam people who've come to respect you on here.

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Quote from: ObscureBean on August 21, 2015, 04:16:58 AM

I think the admins should maintain a thread that tracks account ownership. There is no need to know who the new owner is but it would definitely be good for the seller to let people know he is no longer in control of the account, especially if it is an old account.

that's a lot of work to put on two people, and letting people know the account is sold could potentially lead to a red trust rating, which would significantly lower the value of the sold account.

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I think the admins should maintain a thread that tracks account ownership. There is no need to know who the new owner is but it would definitely be good for the seller to let people know he is no longer in control of the account, especially if it is an old account.

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Quote from: cryptworld on August 20, 2015, 06:15:16 PM

Of course
but when people notice account has been sold, it will be negative trusted

only if people believe there is reason to not trust the new owner of the account; a majority of the time purchased accounts are used for sig campaigns anyways.

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It is true that accounts with positive trust are more valuable and it it true that scammers will buy these accounts in attempt to scam people. I think that the people who got their accounts to their high level of trust are unlikely to sell their accounts since they are indeed trustworthy people and are aware of the scammers who will but their accounts. There is nothing that can really be done to prevent the selling of accounts which is why as far as I know is why it is tolerated.

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Of course
but when people notice account has been sold, it will be negative trusted

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1st thing came into my mind why do you even want to sale your green trust account ?

you earned the trust you are a trusted person and you earned the trust then there is no point selling it to someone else how did not earned tha trust ? i will not sale my account does not matter if it have green trust or not

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Value of account with positive trust will surely increase but selling an account with positive trust has a small market since one of reason why there's a need for a higher rank account is for signature campaigns. We all know that positive trust is not a requirement to join those camps. Your market here are mostly those who will engage in selling items here or trading currencies.

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Quote from: nonbody on August 16, 2015, 09:31:24 AM

as mentioned above, if it is surely its a recipe for disaster with scammers and such :/

it is not a good idea to sell the account with positive trust because it might get abused

I think most people in the right mind wouldnt sell the account only because it took so long to increase their rep, even if they sold that account for a premium. only cause it would make the community like crap or bite them back later down the road.

if you follow the digital market section, you'd see a lot of people literally don't care about anything. there are so many account sales, even hero accs with trust...

yeah. this is actually a pretty bad thing . because an scammer can easily buy an account with positive trust and scam people with it.
I think he would get caught fast and the trust turns negative fast but still he might take some victims this way.

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Quote from: mrhelpful on August 19, 2015, 10:59:18 PM

If the account has lots of trusted sources, it be used to launch their own website or future btc ventures.

Then theres the other evil route where someone would just buy it for scam purposes for a 1 time big hit. You`ll be suprised though that most people arent selling their accounts to reduce the scamming here on the forum.

The positive trust has to be valid. Eg. the other party must have risked something. People would not care if you have deal with little amounts. Still, sudden change of password, posting style and address could expose the entire scheme. Most people aren't interested in building account with positive trust is due to the fact that many would buy and account to participate in signature campaigns, not to scam.

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Quote from: lissandra on August 20, 2015, 12:23:44 AM

Quote from: talkbitcoin on August 19, 2015, 11:09:06 PM

Quote from: nonbody on August 16, 2015, 09:31:24 AM

as mentioned above, if it is surely its a recipe for disaster with scammers and such :/

it is not a good idea to sell the account with positive trust because it might get abused

I think most people in the right mind wouldnt sell the account only because it took so long to increase their rep, even if they sold that account for a premium. only cause it would make the community like crap or bite them back later down the road.

if you follow the digital market section, you'd see a lot of people literally don't care about anything. there are so many account sales, even hero accs with trust...

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Quote from: talkbitcoin on August 19, 2015, 11:09:06 PM

Quote from: nonbody on August 16, 2015, 09:31:24 AM

as mentioned above, if it is surely its a recipe for disaster with scammers and such :/

it is not a good idea to sell the account with positive trust because it might get abused

I think most people in the right mind wouldnt sell the account only because it took so long to increase their rep, even if they sold that account for a premium. only cause it would make the community like crap or bite them back later down the road.

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