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Topic: if my account has positive trust is it value pushed up? - page 2. (Read 3260 times)

legendary
Activity: 1372
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All I know is that I know nothing.
as mentioned above, if it is surely its a recipe for disaster with scammers and such :/

it is not a good idea to sell the account with positive trust because it might get abused
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1002
If the account has lots of trusted sources, it be used to launch their own website or future btc ventures.

Then theres the other evil route where someone would just buy it for scam purposes for a 1 time big hit. You`ll be suprised though that most people arent selling their accounts to reduce the scamming here on the forum.
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
Yes, there is a great increase of the value. For a sr.member account (which cost around 0.20) you can sold it at a double price ! But it isn't easy to sell an account, market account has low liquidity.
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1000
Yes, but at the end is almost the same, you can earn 0.10 more than a normal account, not more (if you're lucky because it is hard to sell an account, especially if this is a Legendary or Hero Member account).

I just cant imagine selling my account.  The hero/legendary someone put a lot of time into.   Even if I ever took a break from forum I would keep it.

I wish it told us how many hero and above have been sold. But I know it is not known.  Also wish it would tell if more after that hack on forums a while back.   I still wonder how many old accounts it brought back to forum through "bad" ways.

I think in perfect world no account would be sold.   But we do not live in perfect world.
legendary
Activity: 1624
Merit: 1196
Reputation first.
Yes, but at the end is almost the same, you can earn 0.10 more than a normal account, not more (if you're lucky because it is hard to sell an account, especially if this is a Legendary or Hero Member account).
legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1036
If my account has positive trust is it value pushed up?
YES. You can clearly see in the digital goods section that it's now part of the title unlike before when someone Is selling an account title is just WTS Senior account, nowadays WTS Senior account with Green Trust
legendary
Activity: 1120
Merit: 1000
Considering people have been trading account for ages, it's not a big problem. Any experienced trader knows that escrow is almost always mandatory.
But yes, an account with positive trust is more valuable.

Is the trading and selling of accounts legal on this forum? I see postings for the sale of accounts all over the forums and it makes no sense that this would be allowed. It seemingly undermines the entire system of trust and reputation that has been built in  Huh

yes it is, otherwise people would not openly sell accounts here, but outside the forum and secretly

and of course positive trust accounts cost more, because is harder to make one and there are few of them around
hero member
Activity: 578
Merit: 554
Considering people have been trading account for ages, it's not a big problem. Any experienced trader knows that escrow is almost always mandatory.
But yes, an account with positive trust is more valuable.

Is the trading and selling of accounts legal on this forum? I see postings for the sale of accounts all over the forums and it makes no sense that this would be allowed. It seemingly undermines the entire system of trust and reputation that has been built in  Huh
legendary
Activity: 3038
Merit: 4418
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as mentioned above, if it is surely its a recipe for disaster with scammers and such :/
Yes, if your account have many positive trust the selling price is higher than no have positive trust account.  Tongue
Because if your account have many positive trust selling goods more easy in here. Tongue
It's a common misconception that positive trust equates to selling goods easily. The trust system in Bitcointalk is not great and does not provide a fair reference for people to judge their trust. I would like to highlight that an escrow could easily solve the trust problem and most escrow services are free of charge. If you do buy an account, sudden abnormal changes, ie. Address change or posting style change may earn you a negative trust instead.
hero member
Activity: 490
Merit: 500
~ScapeGoat~
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if my account has positive trust is it value pushed up?
If you ask me then its NO.
I don't care if you have a Dozen of Trust but do care If you have a single legitimate Trust from Default List.
You should always try to stop the tradings of accounts that involve green trust as if it goes in wrong hands can lead to some sort of scams.
else there is no point of trust all remedy lies in Escrow , use Escrow for all small to big stuffs and stay safe.

You might not value the account but it does add more value if you check the digital goods section. People will obviously pay a little bit more for trust, sometimes for good or bad reasons. As shorena said above you probably wont be able to scam for much if anything at all so it's probably not worth buying an account to scam but some feedback might make people trust you more for sure.

It has been much Time here for me and i do have seen Accounts with trust being sold at little higher than their counterparts with no Trust but I do have seen People From Default List Rolling Back their Feedback once they got to know that its not the same person whom we sent the Feedback.
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1000
positive trust can never hurt in my opinion. however, I prefer bitrated/more sources as trust indicators.
Aku
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
I dont think it matters if the above mentioned uses are preferred .
jr. member
Activity: 58
Merit: 10
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if my account has positive trust is it value pushed up?
If you ask me then its NO.
I don't care if you have a Dozen of Trust but do care If you have a single legitimate Trust from Default List.
You should always try to stop the tradings of accounts that involve green trust as if it goes in wrong hands can lead to some sort of scams.
else there is no point of trust all remedy lies in Escrow , use Escrow for all small to big stuffs and stay safe.

You might not value the account but it does add more value if you check the digital goods section. People will obviously pay a little bit more for trust, sometimes for good or bad reasons. As shorena said above you probably wont be able to scam for much if anything at all so it's probably not worth buying an account to scam but some feedback might make people trust you more for sure.
hero member
Activity: 490
Merit: 500
~ScapeGoat~
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if my account has positive trust is it value pushed up?
If you ask me then its NO.
I don't care if you have a Dozen of Trust but do care If you have a single legitimate Trust from Default List.
You should always try to stop the tradings of accounts that involve green trust as if it goes in wrong hands can lead to some sort of scams.
else there is no point of trust all remedy lies in Escrow , use Escrow for all small to big stuffs and stay safe.
legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1043
:^)
this is actually a problem, because there are many that are doing exactly this trick to increase value and sell a lower rank account for a better price, and it seems fairly easy doing so with some members, via escrow

basically here the strategy

1 user makes two account, then call an escrower and tell him that he want to escrow with his other account; obviously the escrower does not know anything, then the escrow leave the good feedback to both or to one only, and done, in any case the user is feeding himself with illegitimate trust
many of the people on DT are aware of this issue though, and the escrow services don't often leave feedback for low level accounts. but, it's true that trust farming is a thing, and hopefully it'll be addressed properly in the future.
legendary
Activity: 3248
Merit: 1070
this is actually a problem, because there are many that are doing exactly this trick to increase value and sell a lower rank account for a better price, and it seems fairly easy doing so with some members, via escrow

basically here the strategy

1 user makes two account, then call an escrower and tell him that he want to escrow with his other account; obviously the escrower does not know anything, then the escrow leave the good feedback to both or to one only, and done, in any case the user is feeding himself with illegitimate trust
sr. member
Activity: 406
Merit: 250
Your account value is definitely pushed up then if you will want to sell it as people will think that it will be much more trusted than the ones who are with default trust rating
hero member
Activity: 798
Merit: 1000
Move On !!!!!!
I think it was yesterday when some one is selling an account with green trust
too bad the seller posted a screenshot of the profile
now its has a neutral trust feedback that its a sold account

And who are those people who left the member a neutral rating? If they are DT members who themselves participate in account trading, it's just so mean. When the seller is being open about selling his account, why others should have an issue?

Well it makes sense, you can sell an account but you just cannot and you shouldn't sell the trust rating since it is yours, you have earned it, and not the buyer who is buying an account. This actually puts in a disadvantage all the other users that could possibly deal in the future with this buyer of this account with positive rating.

Of course, in the real world buyer and seller don't care about this, they are just trying to earn more money.
legendary
Activity: 2632
Merit: 1094
I think it was yesterday when some one is selling an account with green trust
too bad the seller posted a screenshot of the profile
now its has a neutral trust feedback that its a sold account

And who are those people who left the member a neutral rating? If they are DT members who themselves participate in account trading, it's just so mean. When the seller is being open about selling his account, why others should have an issue?
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1024
does the admins dont have any problem with this account trades ?

its fine with them as far as i know.
regulating account trades will be more of a problem as sellers will find other ways to sell it whenever they get caught

People have been openly trading accounts for a long time. See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=93.0

One of the main reasons is to attempt ROI on a signature campaign. People buy accounts, enroll in a signature campaign and post to get their money back.
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