Topic: If the signature campaings are removed from the forum, will you stay or leave? - page 3. (Read 820 times)

For me it comes down to I like it here, I spend time here, so if I am able to make some BTC why not.
If all signature campaigns went away tomorrow I would really not change my habits.

I would like to think that most of the longer term higher ranking members would not really change their habits or if they do change it would not be that much.

-Dave

I wasn't familiar with the signature campaign during join in the forum. But yes, I was aware of the bounty campaign and I wasn't interested in bounty. At the beginning of joining the cryptocurrency world, I invested in a few initial coin offerings and I just follow and search forum in the project. You know every project has been using forum announcements links. So there shouldn't be a question to leave the forum whether the signature campaign exists or not. But I will be honest, post quantity would reduce as we know there is the weekly quota. But I love this forum and I do not intend to leave it.

I indeed earning a handsome amount from a campaign or managing signature campaign which has been encouraging me to research more to make more posts. Because to make a post I need to understand what I am writing and research for a proper answer or reply. So I believe the number of posts all over the forum would reduce significantly upon banning the signature campaign. Users would move somewhere else where they would find an earning source like this.

The answer to this question will be different from one user to another, but the forum in general give us a good answer as boards like serious discussions give an impression of what the forum would be like if the signature campaigns were stopped as a whole.

Generally, it is something that will happen sooner or later either because of the low return, or the difficulty of participating in one of the good campaigns, or the suspension of the campaigns by the administration, so the person should start posting for knowledge and learning.

Personally, I will stay, but the posting rate will be about 7-12 per week.

This, finally someone with an unpopular opinion. Can imagine an average Joe mentioning that and getting shat on.

Like it or not, signature campaigns are a win-win situation. Advertisers get their traffic and customers, posters get their funds for their expenses. That's how marketing works; volumes to keep the site alive. Solely discussing Bitcoin and technology won't pay the bills, unless they have a ton of wealth to begin with.

Even without them, shitposters still exist the moment there's some sort of monetization opportunity.

This, I'd be delighted to see them go.

I voted "Stay, no change" but would have preferred a "Stay, will contribute more" option.  The overall standard of posting is absolutely risible - you can absolutely guarantee that any rambling, illogical, impenetrable post, repeating what's been said before or ignoring the question entirely will have a paid sig underneath it - anything that could improve that would be great.

I'll stay and try to be more active than before. Signature campaigns have brought in lots of bad practices, one of them being buying and selling accounts which is really sad. I am here to educate myself and I get to learn a lots of new things related to cryptocurrencies from learned members like you.

I haven't joined for signature campaigns and for sure wouldn't leave this forum because of them. Beside this one, I am active on several other forums for ~20 years, wrote tens of thousands of free posts so I would continue to do the same, but I would probably post less, whether I want it or not.

I am aware of the fact that every forum has very active members who will write no matter what, but those are few and far between. Thing is, majority of people would have to reduce their posting frequency simply because if you remove all posts&threads made by those that are here only because of the money, there would be less posts to answer to. In order to be very active, you need other people and if you don't have that, what to do other than post less.


Yep, nicely summed up. As much as we all hate sig spammers, signature campaigns pros simply outweigh the cons. Theymos and other forum staff are aware of that so I am pretty certain that signature campaigns are not going anywhere, at least not in the foreseeable future.



When it comes to replacing shitty posters with better ones, I don't think that you or any other manager can do much about it (unless you increase rate), because there are simply not enough quality members to fill the need of all ongoing signature campaigns, let alone new ones. So even if you want to replace shitposter, most likely you will end up getting the same thing. At the moment, every decent member that wants to be in signature campaign is already part of one (except during that short period when some good campaigns ends so they have to look for another one).

What managers could do though is for example is not set the fixed amount of posts that participants have to make or at least make low minimum requirement so people are not forced to write anything when they don't feel like/don't have time as forced posting in majority of cases leads to redundant posts and that's something that we don't lack of here on bitcointalk.

Another solution is for managers to say to their potential clients that unless they wan't to fill signature campaign with spammers and shitposters, they will have to pay way more than average campaign is paying at the moment (50-60 USD) or have very attractive rules. I might be wrong with my assumption, but somehow I think that doesn't happen often.

Sig spammers are a scourge on these forums, and they can't all die in a fire soon enough.

Voted: I don't care about signaures (I didn't saw the option "I will stay, No change." -> seems like I'm also somewhat blind. My apologizes)

In my 502 (+1) posts, I never participated in any signature campaign. Most reasons I've talked about in the past - can't really be sure which post was it - but they boil down to some factors:

• My posting activity, depending on the days/week, may not reach 20/25 posts per week (most campaigns have their threshold somewhere around these quantities);
• I don't feel comfortable in taking part in campaigns that "make" me post in particular sections of the forum - such as Gambling. The reason is simple - I don't have any particular interest on the topic and I also don't think I'll be able to contribute in any positive way there.

This is not to say that I won't, in the future, try to join a campaign that doesn't have these requirements, but I just wanted to highlight that signature campaigns, by themselves, are not the driver for my presence here. I've seen very informative threads ever since I became more active here and I think I managed to interact in a positive way with some members whose presence is very well known to us. Those are two things that I will try my best to continue to experience as the years go by, or as long as I possibly can contribute to the forum. I reckon I'm not the most "tech" guy around here, neither the most literate regarding blockchain technology, but I've got a deep interesting in learning and continuous self improvement and whenever I see some discussion that I think I can add something worth of discussion - or help - I'll just post it, whether that post is being paid or not.

I would really like to say that in 10 years from now I've made really good friends here and that I've had incredible discussions in it (I reckon I'll also learn a lot on the process), but I'll leave that to the future... Do note that I'm fully aware that campaigns are a really good way for someone users - especially in a less developed world - have an upper advantage regarding their currency, and that is incredible! I'm just saying that, to me, there are other things that also have to be considered...

Ranking system/achievements are some interesting concepts who end up triggering interesting sides of the human spirit. Take at look at PSN/Xbox achievements - they are just a bunch of internet points, that hold no value - other than show your commitment to fully explore games - and yet ever since Xbox implemented the system (back from the days of Xbox360 around 2005) thousands of people try to get as many as they can. And for what? As far as I know there aren't any special rewards or tiers, they just keep pilling up. And yet, people do it and will surely continue to do it because they are proof that they endured a certain path/challenge. I see a ranking system in a similar way - while most users wouldn't bother to climb the ladder considering there wouldn't be no benefit in doing so, some of them really want to say that they've achieved X ranking in Y platform just because. Granted, some places do have some perks for each user class - for example dedicated sections of the forum - but I really think that just having ranks would make some users fight for them, despite not having a prize at the end of the climb. I guess reckoning would be the "final prize"...

I just got in why should I leave if signature campaigns are removed from the forum, I have spent less than six months in the forum and planning to stay here for as long as possible to learn all that I need to. My activities such as posting habits may reduce but I will stay active on the forum without signature.

I will surely stay but my activities would be reduced. At least the money paid through campaigns is obviously making this forum more active. The money might not worth anything for some people but it is actually worth something for some people and motivating them to post good. Taking myself as an example, I joined a campaign and the campaign want me to post good. I was posting good before even before joining any campaign on this forum, but I increased my posting quality and dedicate more time just to make sure I satisfy my campaign manager when also other forum members like people that post good anf I like posting good. That means it is a win-to-win.

What I just think is that my posting quality will not reduce, I will still stay but my activities might reduce.

Probably going to stay because even if I don’t have an active signature campaign, I post instill read some topics of interest to me. I have learned so much here in the forum, so I don’t think I would ever stay away. Just less active in a total of activity. The most popular answer as well. I think a lot of people fell in love with the forum.

When I joined this forum 7 years ago I hardly knew anything about bitcoin and even less about signature campaigns 
In the meantime, I learned a lot about crypto, made some friends, met some of them in person, and earned something through the signature campaigns, which is not so bad after all for one forum.
I’ve been active on a lot of other forums in the past but I’ve gotten a lot less than here.
For me, this forum is perfect because I can talk to friends, find out about some new and interesting crypto projects, discuss sports topics and for what I would do anyway, writing posts, I can earn some btc.
If the campaign signatures are removed I would stay on this forum but I would probably be a little less active.

Personally, I didn't join the forum to make money, but it ended up turning into that. I attribute being so well known on this forum because of campaigns. I don't feel like I would visit the forum much if signature campaigns went away even though I don't manage them much any longer. I do have a pretty decent income from wearing a signature though.

I find nothing wrong with users making money here. Hell, the admins are making a pretty penny weekly on advertising. Why would they ever want to try and cut out the smaller guy?

Let's say they stop allowing signatures, what would be the backlash of that? Well for starters, forum traffic drops by 90%. That means forum ads lose their appeal to businesses. Also leading to no income for the forum, ultimately leading to the forum closing down after a period of time. That's what I think would happen anyways. There will be a few happy members of course, but there will be no reason to keep the forum open for the 100 or so users left.

 The issue IMO is the poor quality of the posters in these campaigns. That's really on the manager. If you have a poor quality poster, then remove them and let someone worthy take their place. I have been guilty of letting douchebags in a campaign because I had a large number of open spots, so maybe I have no room to talk but I can acknowledge the problem and do my part in fixing it.

Most people should have voted for "will stay but less active". I would be the same. I may visit the forum everyday and read some good threads but won't be posting much. It's not only if signature camps doesn’t exist, it's same for me all the time. Maybe I'm posting much when I'm in a campaign because it has a certain requirements.

Honest answer.

I'm already posting less despite being in a high paying campaign (Chipmixer). So if sig campaigns were to stop then nothing would really change in my behavior.

It's because when work catches up to you, you don't really feel in the mood for much talking as you used to anymore.

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An inverse correlation I also notice is that the more you are involved in pull requests and mailing lists for bitcoin projects, the less you feel like posting here.

I chose the third option – I will stay but likely post less. And that will be whenever I've data to do so. It takes data to be on the internet and where I come from data cost money. However, hypothetically, I know I will miss the forum the few times I would stay away as here has become almost like a second home to me. This is the place I've learnt virtually everything and anything that I've come to know in the world of cryptocurrency.

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Wow! That's a great feat, you know. Three years running without taking out a sat from that payment isn't a mean feat. This should be a celebratory anniversary. If you've two glasses to spare; I can bring a bottle of red wine over for celebration. Kudos, man.

i'm not a hypocrite, if there is no signature campaign then i will still be on the forum but the frequency will decrease....i have an offline job and my main income is not from this forum, i think the pay from the signature campaign is just a motivation to make quality posts here.

I choose option 2. Even if the campaigns are gone nothing will change for me. I haven't participated Ina signature campaign yet but not for my lack of trying. I am still here doing what I can to develop my knowledge in crypto. I agree with @Beardedbaby if campaigns and bounties are gone we would see less spammers, less merit hunting posts but I think it will kill the fun of the forum. The newbies who were motivated to join the forum because they could earn money will leave only the old timers will remain and a few who really want to maximize the knowledge available here.

IMO, I will stay, no change but less post.

I like reading comments and various personal arguments in the forum but I don't have the guts to interact with discussion.  It's maybe rare to reply to those threads but I always visit those kinds of threads (arguments) and next in the technical Bitcoin discussion board but again, I'm just reading comments and that sort of obtaining knowledge with those replies from experts, especially those members who are fluent to speak in English (there are many of them here).  It seems like I'm more in reading than posting, so, if signature campaigns are removed doesn't matter to me because I'm here to learn, and earning isn't my first priority.  

If the signature campaigns are removed from the forum and it might those banner ads will disappear too?    If so, how will the forum survive.