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Quote from: samcrypto on April 23, 2019, 06:45:38 PM

Quote from: tspmhack8 on April 22, 2019, 12:41:33 AM

Since Bitcoin appeared it has been controversial. Its value increases gradually. But there are also times that fall after the Hark fork. So if you do not have hark fork, the price of Bitcoin will increase or decrease

I don’t think hard fork made bitcoin dump because the price is already expected to dump after hitting the peak and look at those hard fork, they are useless now and still bitcoin are not that high. Hardfork is just a normal altcoin because they can’t beat bitcoin and they will never be like bitcoin so nothing to worry about.

the only case when a shitcoin caused bitcoin price to drop was the latest one called BSV and that was purely because the market was ready (the whales were desperate for a reason to cause panic and short bitcoin to make money) and also because it was not just a fork, it was a lot of FUD online against bitcoin creating lots of panic. and as we can see now, the effects didn't last long. it only provided whales with a big accumulation opportunity.

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Quote from: shinharu10282016 on April 23, 2019, 06:19:46 PM

I think its about the demand of Bitcoin. If nobody wants to buy it, people will eventually lower the price to meet the buyer's want price. Plus the price of bitcoin eventually goes up even after the fork. So basic law of supply and demand should be observed.

I never know that before please do help me and provide link or any that could support that,

Quote from: tspmhack8 on April 22, 2019, 12:41:33 AM

Since Bitcoin appeared it has been controversial. Its value increases gradually. But there are also times that fall after the Hark fork. So if you do not have hark fork, the price of Bitcoin will increase or decrease

probably correct, not sure as well (Again for all the veterans please correct me I want to learn and yes earn at the same time in my spear time.) but here is what I want to share (slightly connected to this topic) that hard fork is between the 2 kinds of altcoin or can bitcoin that have different names is that there value is different and they do not have connections. like my example is bitcoin gold (this is altcoin and does not have any connection to the market) and bitcoin is bitcoin.

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Quote from: tspmhack8 on April 22, 2019, 12:41:33 AM

Since Bitcoin appeared it has been controversial. Its value increases gradually. But there are also times that fall after the Hark fork. So if you do not have hark fork, the price of Bitcoin will increase or decrease

I don’t think hard fork made bitcoin dump because the price is already expected to dump after hitting the peak and look at those hard fork, they are useless now and still bitcoin are not that high. Hardfork is just a normal altcoin because they can’t beat bitcoin and they will never be like bitcoin so nothing to worry about.

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I think its about the demand of Bitcoin. If nobody wants to buy it, people will eventually lower the price to meet the buyer's want price. Plus the price of bitcoin eventually goes up even after the fork. So basic law of supply and demand should be observed.

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Quote from: Haunebu on April 22, 2019, 03:15:01 AM

Quote from: mk4 on April 22, 2019, 12:52:43 AM

The price of BTC will be slightly higher in my opinion if there weren't forks. The community has been split when people were debating concerning the blocksize, causing the BCH fork, causing a small percentage of the money to move from BTC to the BCH chain.

Long term though, I don't think the price different matters.

Small percentage? I don't think so. Its a pretty big percentage in my opinion and BCH is the most successful fork among them all since it consistently stays in the top 10 rankings in CMC proving its popularity.

However, I don't like BCH and will never support it since Bitcoin will always remain my favorite.

Your right mate because bitcoin is always shaken whenever there’s a Hard fork happening,Bitcoin silver is closer to the top,while bitcoin gold remains below and yes bitcoin Cash is in the best position amongst them all but it’s part of the business and bitcoin always come to recover after every fork,though this is the longest eefect that took more than a year before we experienced the good movement like what we are having this weeks now

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it is impossible to say because although all these shitcoin forks were insignificant and 90% of them are already dead, they still had their own effects on bitcoin market that changed the price. so without them we might have seen a slightly different trend in 2017 and then 2018.
but you seem to be asking about the current price and if that is the question then i believe there wouldn't have been any difference and the current price would have been the same.

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hardfork cannot influence the value of bitcoin. BTC is a senior coin and does not care about hardfork. hardfork is created if the node in the Bitcoin network becomes unable to validate the new block that is valid because of differences of opinion. This valid new block validation will create hardfork, and new bitcoin blocks, in which there are hundreds to thousands of transactions that must be validated by miners. I thought. coin hard fork requires a very long process to have value. but .BTC always amazing.

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The price will be higher, if there's no fork the investors won't diversify their investment and they will more focus on bitcoin, the splitting transaction volume will create a weaker coin and lower price, from a lot of forking that I witnessed it create a chaotic situation to the market and make the price falling down quite hard

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Since most investors take advantage of every hardforks Bitcoin price rise due to they accumulate as much as they want regardless on which side they are. But after the fork, forked coin founders degrading Bitcoin and throws trash statements Claiming that they have the real Bitcoin etc. Etc. which is completely unethical.

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Many people consider that if there were no altcoins and forks, all the dollars that went into the market would be invested in bitcoin. But if only Bitcoins existed, a lot of people would never get involved with the market.

Forks should serve to test theories, test different ways of solving a problem. Bitcoin Cash has been testing the theory of larger blocks, for example. If the forks did not exist, the conflict between different groups could annihilate the bitcoin.

So I believe that forks increase the price of bitcoin. Allowing stupid people to simply make a fork and test their ideas instead of complaining about bitcoin forever.

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Quote from: tspmhack8 on April 22, 2019, 12:41:33 AM

Since Bitcoin appeared it has been controversial. Its value increases gradually. But there are also times that fall after the Hark fork. So if you do not have hark fork, the price of Bitcoin will increase or decrease

If depends the result of correction sometimes price goes up sometimes goes down after the fork, i'll remember last few year 2017 the august hard fork will give a go benefits to us the price go stregth up than expectation.

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I think, hard fork doesn't affect the volatility of BTC. there are no BTC cores that can beat the price of BTC. if there is a hardfork, a new bitcoin network split will be formed. So, each Bitcoin will eventually run on two different networks. but, the most decisive thing is if the hardfork coin can attract investors and public enthusiasm.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on April 22, 2019, 04:07:29 AM

I think it would have been a lot higher. The fork that caused the most damage, was Bitcoin Cash. This fork used clever tactics to confuse potential investment in Bitcoin by hijacking Bitcoin domains and re-directing traffic to platforms where they sell Bitcoin Cash. Most people bought Bitcoin Cash by mistake and only realized this when it was too late.

I'm sure some Bitcoin Cash supporters sold their bitcoins, and some newbies were mistakenly diverted away from Bitcoin. However, I think there were also lots of Bitcoin supporters who sold their bcash for bitcoins. It's hard to know in concrete terms how much these things affected price.

Compared to the activation of Segwit, though -- which basically launched the vertical stage of the 2017 bubble -- the effect of the fork was probably negligible.

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Quote from: nara1892 on April 22, 2019, 12:04:55 PM

if there are no hard forks, bitcoin prices should be slightly higher than now, maybe around 5%
because there are some people believe bitcoin cash, bitcoin gold etc. will rival the price of bitcoin

Well, it all comes down to what those people expect from their forks. If the forks didn't exist then the investors who had moved into those respective chains likely would have just pulled their money out of crypto completely and identified some other alternative investment. I don't think it would dramatically change the price of Bitcoin, even 5% seems like too much considering the value of the other forks like Cash, Gold, there was some other fork I can't remember the name of now. Regardless, their existence probably doesn't significantly impact the value of Bitcoin. I'd assume the price of Bitcoin would remain around the same unless there is some major whale I'm missing who would completely shake up the market.

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It should be way higher than it is right now.Many users switch their bias to hard fork coins leaving bitcoin entirely and not trading them,if they were hundred of thousand of people they can contribute big on pumping of bitcoins price

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Quote from: zenhu on April 22, 2019, 09:53:37 AM

The fork has a possitive and negative effect on bitcoin in my opinion, why I say that? Let's see, if there's no fork bitcoin community still be one and not split like now debating which one is the "real" bitcoin. but if there no fork like bch will bitcoin price increase? cause when fork happened bunch of people buy bitcoin cause they want to receive bch as free money right?

That greedy attitude created a big impact to bitcoin value, they bought btc to receive free bch and after receiving the rewards they completely dumped both coins and enjoy the profits, if that fork never happened the value of bitcoin should not be suffer to this fall, it should be at the half or more from the last high that it reached, so I'm also in the position that the fork really bring impact to the current value of bitcoin.

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if there are no hard forks, bitcoin prices should be slightly higher than now, maybe around 5%
because there are some people believe bitcoin cash, bitcoin gold etc. will rival the price of bitcoin

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Quote from: tspmhack8 on April 22, 2019, 12:41:33 AM

Since Bitcoin appeared it has been controversial. Its value increases gradually. But there are also times that fall after the Hark fork. So if you do not have hark fork, the price of Bitcoin will increase or decrease

This is completely dependent on the capacity of the coin that makes fork. Big forks like Bitcoin Cash unfortunately hurt. But there is a lot of unnecessary fork coin. I don't think they have an impact on BTC.

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The fork has a possitive and negative effect on bitcoin in my opinion, why I say that? Let's see, if there's no fork bitcoin community still be one and not split like now debating which one is the "real" bitcoin. but if there no fork like bch will bitcoin price increase? cause when fork happened bunch of people buy bitcoin cause they want to receive bch as free money right?

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This is just an assumption that the market cap of all the Bitcoin Fork be put to the current market of Bitcoin, it will simply mean at the Value of Bitcoin would increase. Imagine these list of forks's market cap added to Bitcoin, it is undeniable that Bitcoin could be way higher than what it is now.

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