Topic: If you are 1 of the 500,000 who live thru Coronavirus... (Read 584 times)

History shows that we have lost well over 7 billion people since the Great Flood of Noah's day, a mere 5,000 years ago.

I love this girl, she is my soulmate, we have fun together and she is beautiful, special looking with soft skin like no other women have. For sex I have other women. Too bad that my loved one does not fulfill my dreams.

With lethality of 20% according to https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ we realistically could lose close to one billion people worldwide. We still be left with 6 billion people on this earth. To have only 500 000 people left alive after pandemic is unrealistic unless Ebola spreads easily.

I would rather have a dozen wives than 1 like your situation.

Who would be worried about CV killing off 99% of the world's population? If your statistics ignore the 7.5 billion that are alive right now, 100% of the world's population has been killed off by something.

The crownvirus will not kill 99% of world population. 20% of world population dead is worst possible outcome based on current stats on mortality. As for me, I am optimistic. Low population density and quarantine measures are slowing down virus spread in my country. Life have changed, for some people a lot, for me - almost nothing have changed.

As for my loved girl - we are friends again. I agreed that she will have other male friends and eventually she will have a boyfriend. And I will not be boyfriend. The time we spend together is so great that I agreed. I understand she want to be independent both financially and emotionally. We spent time walking in woods, playing computer games and sleeping together while having deep philosophical conversations till we fell asleep. Life is kind of normal again.

People will mostly be spread out. They will live in pockets around the world where CV never reached. It will probably be difficult for anyone to even reach most of the people in the world. You will be blessed if you happen to live in an area that has, say, a thousand friendly people, who all want to help each other... AND who are reasonably CV immune for some reason.

If we meet their needs they're going to never leave during this crisis. you're right that they ought to provide adequate food but also if i'm 1 in 500,000 living through coronavirus then i will be able to get up to the poor poor people of society to assist them.

If only 500K are left, this would mean a widespread transmission of a very deadly disease has occurred. 

All locations and groups would be equally affected.  So you can expect that your group will be infected sooner or later
and trimmed to 1-5% of its original size.  Unless you completely cut off all contact with the outside world.
It means no contact with any other human being outside of your group, ever.

Incest would be a big problem going forward, even if your group solves all other issues.

Basically, anyone in the surviving 500K population would be fucked.  Different groups might be immune to different strains of the virus.

Some would kill themselves once they would realize that the 'old' way of life is gone.

Better hope this will never happen.  It would be a total nightmare.  'The Walking Dead' scenario.

If there are only 500,000 left in the whole world, where are they going to be located?

We might have groups in big cities who were immune for some reason. But these people will probably not be together, because immunity isn't something that is a together thing... at least not in big cities.

Most of the groups will be separate, tiny civilized villages, stuck away in some far mountain valley where they were never visited by outside people. There might be groups of several hundred to several thousand out there. As long as they never contact anyone from the outside until the virus simply dies away, they will be the new civilized centers of the world.

Since it is weakened immune systems from vaccination - and bad food/eating-habits - that is causing people to not be able to fight this disease, people in outer villages will be the safest and strongest, immune-wise.

Very unlikely, obesity is a problem, most humans cannot do 5 pullups, nevermind stalking prey for 20 miles, in cold, or extreme heat.

In such a post-apocalyptic scenario, a simple skin rash or cut would take out an average modern human.

Do you have at least two military field surgeons, few engineers, chemists, plenty of tradespeople, organic farmers, a variety of livestock in your group?

Do you know how to mill wheat, bake bread, make butter, alcohol, cheeses, process wild game, cure meat, make soap, prepare hides, plow the fields with horses, prepare herbal creams and other medications?

A simple root canal or an inflamed appendix, complication during pregnancy would be a death sentence.

More likely than not, survivors would be scavengers, killing other survivors for food and resources. Think Mad Max scenario.

A healthy immune system is not enough to survive such a scenario.

Specialization is what helped us to get where we are but at the same time, it is our weakness.

More than likely, the living will exist in pockets of several hundred to several thousands. Their whole pocket area wasn't affected because they were prepared nutritionally, or had healthy immune systems from not being vaccinated.

I don't think this virus will destroy our civilization.  Not this time.

The economy will be destroyed and it will take a long time to recover.

The measures of social distancing, lockdowns, etc. will flatten the infections curve but will destroy the economy.

We never had to pick between the death count and the GDP numbers.

PS. If this virus mutates into something more deadly, say an 80% mortality rate, you might get your 500K scenario. Most deaths would be indirect; lack of medications, health care, sanitation, food, water, etc.

PPS. With 500K people left, the average population density will be around 2 people per 1000 square miles. Chances are you will not see anyone else alive besides people near you, in your lifetime.

Exactly!

Part of the reason I started this topic was to get people to think of what prepping really is like. Think of the people in the old west of the USA. They had to build their own wagons if they wanted a wagon. They had to be part blacksmith if they wanted to build a plow. And they had to know how to mine the ore and smelt out the iron, etc.

Today, prepping starts with a lot of things that are already built... things that we can convert into living in the wild. But think about when gasoline is no longer refined. Essentially all our cars and engines will be useless. The best engines we will have then are diesels, that we can run off sunflower oil that we can grow and press out ourselves. It will be work. We better have a big REAL, need for engines before we waste time on this.

There are a whole lot of things like this that will fall by the wayside because we will live better without them. We need to get away from denial of this, and start to look at what living might become if Coronavirus can't be stopped.

You can't travel the world now even if you want to Everything is banned so the crowd is low If you are healthy with the virus you can help other people so that they are aware and do not spread the virus too much. Now you will get yourself infected with many diseases traveling around the world.

i'd love to travel the world if i can. fewer crowd so it would be the perfect time

If you are not self-sufficient now, you (and 80% of survivors) would die of starvation and/or other diseases.

The wealth we consider wealth is only wealth in the context of our civilization.

The pieces of paper with pictures of dead people are useless, your guns are useless without bullets.  You get the picture.

In such a post-apocalyptic scenario, wealth is the ability to grow food, hunt with primitive tools, live without electricity while maintaining healthy hygiene, that is the real wealth.   Nobody would care about bricks of gold or other metal or stacks of banknotes.

Be careful what you wish for.

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You will need some way to value the prices for goods or services when group of survivors come together. You can use anything, including bitcoin. Only problem I can imagine is the declining mining power as unmaintained miners and powerplants shut down because people maintaining them have died. As a result the block time adjustment will be pretty bad.

You still be in need of services, like car mechanics to repair or upgrade your mad max style truck or dentist to repair bad teeth. Even jack of all trades need some more experienced person to do certain things. I only agree to the part that consumer goods will not be so valuable as they are today because they will be plenty of them left.

I have been alone in my home for years. Including months without any real life contact, except cashier at the shop. Working computers and internet connection is sufficient for me to substitute human contact and keep my brain busy with thinking and ideas.

And now comes my hijacked thread part  
We were best friends for like 4 years and also we had sex like two times when drunk. We understand each other from half word, can complete each others sentences. We understand each others quirks and little secrets. We complement each other by using our strengths ad weaknesses. We even have similar sleep patterns. I agree we are not the classic romantic couple, but I matter to her as a brother, maybe? When I first kicked her out from my life after she flirted with my friend, she almost died in suicide. When I left home country without notice to go to eastern Ukraine, she was in tears in phone call to my mother. Some time have passed since then, but I am not insignificant to her.

I am pretty much useless, except for emotional support. I doubt she will live with me for weeks just to empty my fridge. And we purchased groceries together. And I offered her to live with me in nice apartment I rented, she refused. She also refused money from me without any conditions, just that she does not need to work so hard. She want to be strong and independent.

She is different from other girls. Maybe because she is bisexual and like more feminine looking boys? I am more like average sized with some body fat but thin hands. And I like wearing leather bomber jackets and some surplus military wear, not the feminine gay stuff that is trendy today.

I need her for my own well being. I do not want to live rest of my life like I lived it to this day - alone. Or live my only life with girl that is not as attractive or understanding as she is. I really do not like idea that other guy or coronavirus fucks her.

We were best friends for like first year, she had another boyfriend and I had two different love interests in same time. We were just hanging out and gaming together.


1. Hard to do with the economic hardships, I wear military surplus clothes and combine with clothes available from charity.
2. I have shaved head and no beard or mustache.
3. I wash regularly.
4. It is hard to me because I for unknown reasons do not gain muscle mass. I haul water canisters almost my own weight + gear for miles trough wilderness every other day. But my body does not change much.
5. Again, hard to do in the place I live.
6. Do not know what it is, but I suspect cologne is a synonym for deodorant. I got a good one, and my love interest likes it. She also wear male deodorant from time to time.

And most important, today I called her and we talked. I feel much better, I can function as a human at least, the heart problems with racing heart and chest pains went away in instant. I have no great hopes for future, but again I have someone I love and can talk to.

But in your taking of things for free, remember than many of these things will last only so long. Even canned goods expire after a while.

Get a truck that runs well, store up some of the last of the gasoline that exists, and use the truck to find good, food-producing land, and grow a big garden. The truck can haul whatever tools you need to grow the garden.

If your spouse survived, you will need help that you can trust. It won't be easy to find other people that you can trust, and you can't do everything without help.

The best bet for younger people is to do this, and to get married and settle down and raise a family. There won't be any Social Security. You will need kids who love you to support you in old age.

If this happens, then I do not think that there will be any significance for all types of currencies, because I will not need them as long as I can take anything I want for free.

Yuck..!!

Once cooked over an open flame or in boiling water for 30 minutes, pretty sure everything is fit to eat. Still there is the problem of storage..