If you believe we should kill all Muslims... - page 2.

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Quote from: kpcian on May 04, 2017, 11:53:17 AM

Before accusing someone of any negative incident you should look into behind cause also, some people want to accuse Islam if terrorism unless consideration of behind activities,
Tell me, who created Taliban for fighting against Russia in Afghanistan, which country helped them with weapons, have you realized anything.? This is all about colonialism.
I also consider that some Muslim are heavily responsible for occuring anti human work, but you should not blame any religion. Every religion show us to the way of beautiful meaning of Life and peace.

So what the US shouldn't have helped the muhadeen? They sold them guns and trained the so that they could defend their country from aggressors. There is nothing wrong with that.

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Quote from: HabBear on April 09, 2017, 10:02:51 PM

...then you have the mentality of a terrorist.

Terrorists believe all infidels should be killed. They characterize infidels as "all Westerners". Therefore if you believe all Muslims should be killed you have the same mentality of the terrorists.

The "jihad" or "war against terror", depending on your religion, don't end until this mentality changes. Religion doesn't kill people, people kill people. Stop the people, not the religion. And try to do it peacefully. If some government killed my father or uncle or brother, regardless of the reason, I would see that government as my enemy...forever. That chain of thinking doesn't stop until the killing stops.

I don't think that we need to kill all muslims, that's not right.It maybe most of the terrorist are belong to muslim group but that's not enough reason to kill all of them, because I do believed that there are some other country's are also can be a terrorist too. But as much as possible we shouldn't go beyond this far.

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Quote from: judeafante on May 04, 2017, 11:05:04 AM

This is a delicate issue,but I don't believe Muslims are killers,only those people with so much hatred in their hearts and wants to impose their religion to the unbelievers they are ultra muslims who wants all nations to become muslims also.

Yes, among them not all killers are as well as in other religions. Here everything depends on the person and his attitude towards others.

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Quote from: Lieldoryn on May 04, 2017, 11:57:42 AM

To kill people on a national basis is a bad thing and is called genocide. Need to do not. You need to kill all the terrorists. If this is done then Muslims in any case will be much less, but it wouldn't be genocide.

No one has called for a genocide of the Muslims here. You can check the previous posts. But the uncontrolled immigration of uneducated Muslims into the non-Muslim nations need to be stopped. Because, in addition to the physical Jihad, the Muslims are experts in demographic Jihad as well.

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Quote from: Lieldoryn on May 04, 2017, 11:57:42 AM

To kill people on a national basis is a bad thing and is called genocide. Need to do not. You need to kill all the terrorists. If this is done then Muslims in any case will be much less, but it wouldn't be genocide.

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Quote from: kpcian on May 04, 2017, 11:53:17 AM

Before accusing someone of any negative incident you should look into behind cause also, some people want to accuse Islam if terrorism unless consideration of behind activities, ....you should not blame any religion. Every religion show us to the way of beautiful meaning of Life and peace.

If a child of the Christian Jehovah's Witness sect dies because the parents obeyed the teachings of their religion, refusing to allow blood transfusions - then we should blame the religion, because that was it's teaching.

If people die because of teachings of Islam religion sect, why should we NOT blame the religion?

And no, of course it is false that "every religion show us the way of beautiful....<>"

Every religion? Every single one? Come on, be realistic. Look at religions historically. Many have been very bad things. Fortunately most of those, today no longer exist. For example, the Druids. The Aztec and Inca religions.

Finally, how many examples of religions that practiced ritualistic murder or cannibalism would you like?

There's no reason not to be realistic about negative aspects of religions.

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To kill people on a national basis is a bad thing and is called genocide. Need to do not. You need to kill all the terrorists. If this is done then Muslims in any case will be much less, but it wouldn't be genocide.

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Before accusing someone of any negative incident you should look into behind cause also, some people want to accuse Islam if terrorism unless consideration of behind activities,
Tell me, who created Taliban for fighting against Russia in Afghanistan, which country helped them with weapons, have you realized anything.? This is all about colonialism.
I also consider that some Muslim are heavily responsible for occuring anti human work, but you should not blame any religion. Every religion show us to the way of beautiful meaning of Life and peace.

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This is a delicate issue,but I don't believe Muslims are killers,only those people with so much hatred in their hearts and wants to impose their religion to the unbelievers they are ultra muslims who wants all nations to become muslims also.

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Quote from: Spendulus on May 04, 2017, 09:56:46 AM

Could it be that you didn't ask questions that would provoke the hostility?

It's easy to have agreement on ISIS, but what if you try Israel? What about cartoons of Mohammed? How about treatment of women and gays?

What about them, eh..?
Real Muslims would hate ISIS for what they represent (Burning, chopping, bombing, beheading, terrorizing, etc. as it's Islam, which is completely untrue).
We have kind of a bad history with Jews, not just in the 20th century, and their presence among Arab makes things even worse.
About Cartoons, well, we don't like our prophet to be offended in any way, the case that they mock Jesus in cartoons (The Simpsons, anyone?) is theirs, but we also don't like it because we respect all prophets.
What about women treatment?
And gays, we don't tolerate them (true), but if they just don't brag about their gayness everywhere, and keep it to their own personal lives, no one would punish them for it.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on April 09, 2017, 10:25:45 PM

My reasoning is very simple. I don't want to live near Muslims. Not all of them may be terrorists or terrorist supporters, but the vast majority of the terrorists are Muslims. My logic is that, prevention is better than cure. Why take the risk?

BTW... I don't want to kill any of them, as long as they don't attack me.

I agreed with you, Even I don't want to live near Muslims too. Though I'm not mad at them I'm not just comfortable to stay in a place which surrounded by muslim people. BUt I don't want to kill muslims, I just want to live normally.

well I think its the way muslims are portrayed in mainstream media today that makes most people this way. i've lived among muslim communities and have talked pretty much eveything with them including religiois differences and not once have I felt hostile reaction. they're just like people from other religions and they also abhorr the things terrorists do in the name of islam.

Could it be that you didn't ask questions that would provoke the hostility?

It's easy to have agreement on ISIS, but what if you try Israel? What about cartoons of Mohammed? How about treatment of women and gays?

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Quote from: pinkpanther03 on April 28, 2017, 09:40:37 AM

Quote from: Sithara007 on April 09, 2017, 10:25:45 PM

My reasoning is very simple. I don't want to live near Muslims. Not all of them may be terrorists or terrorist supporters, but the vast majority of the terrorists are Muslims. My logic is that, prevention is better than cure. Why take the risk?

BTW... I don't want to kill any of them, as long as they don't attack me.

I agreed with you, Even I don't want to live near Muslims too. Though I'm not mad at them I'm not just comfortable to stay in a place which surrounded by muslim people. BUt I don't want to kill muslims, I just want to live normally.

well I think its the way muslims are portrayed in mainstream media today that makes most people this way. i've lived among muslim communities and have talked pretty much eveything with them including religiois differences and not once have I felt hostile reaction. they're just like people from other religions and they also abhorr the things terrorists do in the name of islam.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on April 09, 2017, 10:25:45 PM

My reasoning is very simple. I don't want to live near Muslims. Not all of them may be terrorists or terrorist supporters, but the vast majority of the terrorists are Muslims. My logic is that, prevention is better than cure. Why take the risk?

BTW... I don't want to kill any of them, as long as they don't attack me.

I agreed with you, Even I don't want to live near Muslims too. Though I'm not mad at them I'm not just comfortable to stay in a place which surrounded by muslim people. BUt I don't want to kill muslims, I just want to live normally.

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First of all I don't like Muslims. But talking about killing all of them you are thinking worse than ISIS. In my country they have come and gonne. Muslims some of them are integrated well with their families, opened up some kebap or whatever they are called shops here and everything good. The problem are immigrants which do not integrate, like they do robbery, killing and disorder all over the place, they are the real problem of the world. Uncontrolled immigration is what has befallen on old good Europe.

Killing all Muslims is not a solution and I think it cannot be done as they are a lot of people if you count them all.

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Quote from: Marcus_2017 on April 27, 2017, 02:49:55 PM

I think so too, but agree it is not a reason to kill all Muslims. Among all people there are exceptions. Are you ready to take responsibility for the death of a Muslim which is really a good person?

Unless a Muslim is willing to speak against the commands which are given in his holy book, such as stoning of women, beheading of apostates, enslavement of infidel women.etc, he can't be a good person in my opinion. If they are willing to speak against these commands, then I am willing to grant them the right to visit Western nations.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on April 26, 2017, 10:32:08 PM

Quote from: thunderbitz2717 on April 26, 2017, 03:14:41 PM

And I guess not all muslim are bad. But majority of the muslim that I encountered was having not a good attitude, so I don't wan't to stay close to them.

There are two types of Muslims. The first type consist of individuals who openly display hatred against the infidels. The second category consists of people who hate the infidels, but don't show their animosity openly.

I think so too, but agree it is not a reason to kill all Muslims. Among all people there are exceptions. Are you ready to take responsibility for the death of a Muslim which is really a good person?

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Quote from: thunderbitz2717 on April 26, 2017, 03:14:41 PM

And I guess not all muslim are bad. But majority of the muslim that I encountered was having not a good attitude, so I don't wan't to stay close to them.

There are two types of Muslims. The first type consist of individuals who openly display hatred against the infidels. The second category consists of people who hate the infidels, but don't show their animosity openly.

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Quote from: Moloch on April 26, 2017, 01:06:01 PM

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Let's check again?

Quote from: Deuteronomy 13:6-10

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Well there you have it... god commands you to stone Muslims to death
Where is the passage about loving them?
I can't seem to find it anywhere in this entire bible
Perhaps my bible is broken?

No, it is your bible reading head that's broken.

And by the way, you miss the entire point. Christians all ignore verses in the bible that are batshit crazy, while Muslims when finding such things in their Korans, take them seriously. Or at least a percentage of Muslims do.

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Quote from: thunderbitz2717 on April 26, 2017, 03:14:41 PM

Quote from: HabBear on April 09, 2017, 10:02:51 PM

...then you have the mentality of a terrorist.

Terrorists believe all infidels should be killed. They characterize infidels as "all Westerners". Therefore if you believe all Muslims should be killed you have the same mentality of the terrorists.

The "jihad" or "war against terror", depending on your religion, don't end until this mentality changes. Religion doesn't kill people, people kill people. Stop the people, not the religion. And try to do it peacefully. If some government killed my father or uncle or brother, regardless of the reason, I would see that government as my enemy...forever. That chain of thinking doesn't stop until the killing stops.

I think we don't need to do that, though some of them maybe true about the hearsay, but still let God do the judge for them if ever it is true. And I guess not all muslim are bad. But majority of the muslim that I encountered was having not a good attitude, so I don't wan't to stay close to them.

I do believe god is judge and we should leave all on him. But there is law in every country made by people of country for good of their nation and god of earth is currently the law so terrorists/muslims should be punished for illegal things they carry out. We should not directly kill them but get them punished legally

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