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Quote from: Frankolala on December 03, 2024, 11:37:35 AM

No need to worry about how people are criticizing bitcoin, because it shows that those are bitcoin haters and fail to accept the fact that bitcoin is the new digital asset that can transform their whole life if only they can accept the fact and invest. Turn deaf ears to whatever they are saying, because it's not new and bitcoin have being proving them wrong since the beginning and had also put them to shame. Teach your friends, family and relatives about the basics of bitcoin and if they're interested to invest, you show them how to do it, as your own contribution to the bitcoin community.

We really don't need to worry about those critics. Bitcoin history can't be narrated completely without adding them in the picture; they all have a role, which the player is pushing Bitcoin to the level that it's at today. They run free promotions and create indirect awareness for Bitcoin while trying to criticise it in public.

Bitcoin has passed that level where hate speech does affect it again, but yet people will still keep on talking against it, either because they are too ashamed to embrace the fact that they were wrong all this while or it could be because they are among those who don't like seeing good things flourish.

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Quote from: ? on November 24, 2024, 11:45:37 AM

This board should have the will to fight and win for the value of bitcoin. We need to use the powers we have to defeat the evils that want to keep it down. I will list a few of the bad actors, and methods of combat.

- Peter Schiff: He makes profits on gold and fears that bitcoin will force him to sell his house and turn his daughters into prostitutes. He slams bitcoin but no other crypto because of his fear of the 'king coin'. Any media that quotes this desperate fool should be slammed hard. Comment on the articles that they are posting fake news by 'the desperate fool'.

- Gary Gensler: to be resolved Jan 20

- Dems and the DoJ: On Monday, July 29, 2024. The US government moved 29,800 of its total hoard of 230,000 coin. The FUD (fear, uncertainty, doubt) in the market caused the price to crash $3,000. This was two days after the Trump speech in Nashville. The speech and the hype up to it, had the price up to $70,000ish from the Mt Gox and Saxony crashes. I reported this to the FBI as either election fraud or market manipulation. They think I have a tin foil hat.

- Saxony: They sold criminal seized coin on the open market and we hope they learned a lesson. All public coin should have democratic policy about sales of criminal seized coin. This should apply to all countries including China.

- Paywall media: If you google 'bitcoin news', the top hits are media sites with bad news headlines that you can't read without a subscription.

There are many more to list. Please add. ~~~~

Don't care for Peter Schiff and If I am not wrong most of the members here also don't care for him because he can't do any harm to BTC so those who are not investing in BTC and following him are making their own decision as noone is allowed to force others to invest in BTC it's their choice.

Gary is retiring good news, I am happy along with many projects, I just can't beleive one thing that they aplogized CZ and asked him to reinsate him as CEO agian, I mean even that can possible.

The crash and the selling from Germany or by MT Gox was planned already I am not sure about Saxony, but Mt Gox has already shared a year ago that they will start their distribution in the October of 2024. So can't say if it's manipulation.

Speaking of media I don't think we should depend on one media source because even the big ones can make wrong moves for example last time in January when it was the hype of ETF approval Cointelegraph author published false news and the whole market moves up as it was total manipulatoin and disaster at the same time many benefited but later they just made an apologize which was not enough obviously for those who made huge loss.

Point is people should not read news from one or two sites they should at least have 5 to 10 source of news totally unique not the ones copyng and pasting each other's news. TG and Twitter are the best sources for the news.

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No need to worry about how people are criticizing bitcoin, because it shows that those are bitcoin haters and fail to accept the fact that bitcoin is the new digital asset that can transform their whole life if only they can accept the fact and invest. Turn deaf ears to whatever they are saying, because it's not new and bitcoin have being proving them wrong since the beginning and had also put them to shame. Teach your friends, family and relatives about the basics of bitcoin and if they're interested to invest, you show them how to do it, as your own contribution to the bitcoin community.

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Peter Schiff is harmless imo. He might be a clown but he is only expressing his opinions. Why would you make an enemy of him? There will always some people who'll hate bitcoin with or without any reason. Schiff is not a government worker, he has no power at all.

You are right with the others as far as I see though. The dems and Gary will be taken care of soon. Legacy media too hopefully. CNN deserves to be in the trash can.

In the end bitcoin will bury any of these cockroaches. No need to worry about it. Remember, Bitcoin doesn't need us, we need it.

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Bitcoin will always be the winner. Don't mind the bad news about bitcoin, it will always be number one. Even from a few years ago, many people tried to bring bitcoin down and said that bitcoin will fall or even disappear, but the truth is no. Bitcoin has already beaten the silver marketcap, and it will probably keep up with gold sooner or later, and i believe it will even beat it. So, don't listen to any fud about bitcoin, it's pointless, because fundamentally bitcoin is unbeatable, and i believe and agreed regarding the narrative which says that Bitcoin is gold version 2.0.

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Quote from: ? on November 24, 2024, 12:16:41 PM

That is a passive response. If you believe that bitcoin will win on its own merit, then you are correct. My point is that we can fight and win to put it on top faster.

Bitcoin already win, the fact that it's market cap is bigger than silver market cap should be enough to understand how It win.

There is not mucho to do about It, It already has enough promotion and enough money for the succes. Those Who know how to ride the wave will win too.

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Quote from: Alpha Marine on November 25, 2024, 01:48:02 PM

I don't believe giving them so much relevance is the way to go. I don't see any reason for bashing them and reporting their articles. Everybody is allowed to have his own opinions. I have opinions that are against some things that other people favour, that's life. Everybody cannot be for something.

People are allowed to have their own opinions but they shouldn’t form opinions based on non-factual information and biased views. Education is key and if someone asks me to help them understand bitcoin, I will gladly do so and if they end up still not liking bitcoin then I can accept it. But I don’t want to put so much effort. All information is available on the internet. We need to just guide them towards the right path.

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We didn't fight for bitcoin when it was below 1k when most of the world labelled it a Ponzi scheme, so why should you fight for it now that it's approaching 100k and showing people how wrong they were wrong about it?
Bitcoin is organic. It doesn't need people to create traffic or market it to survive.

It survived back then, it would keep surviving now. Not only surviving actually, bitcoin is thriving.

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It seems some responses say 'We have a house, a job, and food; so we don't need to fight for anything better.' This is the same attitude that stopped slaves from fighting for power for hundreds of years. I am going to phone the FBI for a third time to report the US DoJ moving coin again on Dec 2/24. The price crashed close to $5,000 and may take weeks to recover. The July 29/24 crash didn't recover until the Trump pump. These moves should be controlled by a public bitcoin policy and not by a few with wallet access to profit from every crash they create. 1-800-CALL-FBI (225-5324). It is criminal, and they should investigate. Microsoft votes Dec 10/24 to buy bitcoin. The board recommends a no vote. Grayscale and other bitcoin ETF whales are the largest Microsoft shareholders. That will create a ripple in price. The AGM may have a live public stream to watch those antics.

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I don't believe giving them so much relevance is the way to go. I don't see any reason for bashing them and reporting their articles. Everybody is allowed to have his own opinions. I have opinions that are against some things that other people favour, that's life. Everybody cannot be for something.
What I think we can do is just keep buying and educating people who are interested and ask you about it. Don't keep your bitcoin in centralised exchanges. Keep your bitcoin in a non-custodial wallet instead.

We didn't fight for bitcoin when it was below 1k when most of the world labelled it a Ponzi scheme, so why should you fight for it now that it's approaching 100k and showing people how wrong they were wrong about it?
Bitcoin is organic. It doesn't need people to create traffic or market it to survive.

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If you care about Bitcoin, I would say never use centralized exchange anymore.

Why stop to use centralized exchange? because when you send your coins to the exchange, the exchange can access your coins, which is kill the decentralization. When you want to trade your coins for other currency, the transaction happened by off-chain, this mean you didn't contribute to the network.

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This board should have the will to fight and win for the value of bitcoin. We need to use the powers we have to defeat the evils that want to keep it down. I will list a few of the bad actors, and methods of combat.

What "board" are you talking about? Bitcoin isn't a corporation. The FUD and hate around Bitcoin will never stop and we can't stop it by defending Bitcoin on social media. Personally I don't care about the opinions of Buffet, Jamie Dimon, Peter Schiff or any other Bitcoin hater.
Haters gonna hate even when the Bitcoin price hits 100K, 200K or 1 million. The BTC supporters acting like some weird religious cult and defending Bitcoin on social media seems like a desperate move to me(and it looks so cringe as well). Bitcoin is doing just fine and there's no need for us to "defend" it from all evil. Grin

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No one needs to fight for bitcoin because bitcoin can protect itself and has being during that since creation after a lot of critics and run down on bitcoin. To the point that government thought that it is within their power to decide if bitcoin exist or not, but bitcoin proved them wrong and disappointed them.

One thing with media is that they are doing their work to spread whatever information people tell them to do and I will not blame them for that, because it's the same media that is passing bitcoin awareness to people more. Don't care about what people are saying bout bitcoin but care about how much bitcoin you can accumulate.

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If we are going to be focusing our energy on all negative sentiments that goes on around the world of Bitcoin, fear will get the better of us and then we might lose interest in it and worst case scenario is get depressed about it!!

On the bright side, why don't we talk about the positives about Bitcoin related news to absorb all the negatives, for example incoming POTUS is Pro Bitcoin which is a big plus as we saw that after his win price rallied up over 25k and we are still bullish btw...

Btw people will always criticize a good cause, so let's just put a blind eye on them.

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Bitcoin is a very valuable digital currency so we must be careful with Bitcoin. Over the course of a few days we have seen the price of Bitcoin rise a lot and it is only a matter of time before the price of Bitcoin touches $100k. There are many investors who have been investing for a long period of time and have held the investment but this time they have made substantial profits. Now, if his company had not cared about Bitcoin, they would not have made such huge profits this time.

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Quote from: ? on November 24, 2024, 11:45:37 AM

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if you are bullish on an asset and intends projecting it to the people in the society, its best to do it without trying to get another person involved in it in a manner that makes it look like you see the individual as a threat to bitcoin. Gary Gensle, peter Schiff and whichever anti bitcoin personality we have out there are just to be seen as mere noise makers that are not fortunate enough to have invested in bitcoin and because of that wants to see bitcoin crash so as to boost their ego for their lack of believe in bitcoin. trying to go at that on the media to tarnish whatever post or opinion they share will be a waste of energy and instead, it's best to use such energy in projecting bitcoin and continue in investing in bitcoin so after slamming them, it would not be that we ourselves don't even have the slightest quantity of bitcoin we are holding.

bitcoin represents freedom and doesn't need you to go word for word against the anti bitcoinnier. the best way to show that you value bitcoin is to buy, hold and maybe share your investment journey with people which can in the process bring others into the bitcoin ecosystem. if you have done that, let the media gossipers continue in their gossip and watch how bitcoin continue getting bullish and giving them what to talk about.

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trying to fight media wont change things..

if you think some media gossip can kill bitcoin then you already dont understand bitcoin enough to realise that bitcoin can continue no mater what chatter is said in media

for instance peter Schiff has no sway/power over bitcoin. heck he is a gold lover but doesnt have much say in his own industry. so no point wasting energy on his silly thoughts.

however core devs can change bitcoin, and their thoughts, actions and discussions can change the path of bitcoin
if you want to defend bitcoin you need to review and scrutinise the bitcoin devs

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For me one way to keep decentralisation in full positive impact and power. In the crypto space is to clear out FOMO because of it's effects on the network. Most big firms and investors are actually focused solely on profits and what they could benefit from the network and not necessarily being an enthusiast or a core supporter of the network.

Decentralisation has it's undisputed importance and advantages and also, so does it have a couple of disadvantages. Sudden moves like buying or selling huge amounts that big firms usually make are usually accompanied by sudden shift in price too but it's effect is more intense because of the FOMO of retail holders.

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Quote from: ? on November 24, 2024, 12:16:41 PM

That is a passive response. If you believe that bitcoin will win on its own merit, then you are correct. My point is that we can fight and win to put it on top faster.

Our only enemy here is misinformation. That is what kills bitcoin and what makes other people look the opposite way of bitcoin. That is all that we have to fight. People who are spreading misinformation just so it validates their hatred and skepticism to bitcoin are the ones we should take care of. But people who genuinely just don’t want to invest and expressing it on public? There’s nothing we can do about that. We can’t force them to do anything.

As per “market manipulation”, I don’t think that was the case back then. Even if it was, I don’t really know what would be the consequences for that. There are entities with a lot of bitcoins and unfortunately they hold the power to move the market. Again, nothing we really can do.

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Education really is the key. No matter how many so-called experts try to discredit Bitcoin or doubt its future, if you’re well-informed, you won’t panic. It’s nothing new, FUD has been around for years, but look at how far Bitcoin has come despite all that noise. FUD and FOMO are part of the game, and honestly, not everyone will profit from Bitcoin investing. Some will fail so others can succeed, it’s just how markets work.

As for coins being moved or sold, with today’s larger trading volumes, it’s less likely to cause a massive crash. A small dip isn’t a crash, and Bitcoin’s market behaves differently from traditional stocks. What might seem massive to them is often just a regular fluctuation for Bitcoin.

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Bitcoin is definitely true and mature, we will definitely fight for Bitcoin, it is the safest digital currency of the present time. Where we can feel peace by investing and it is possible to gain huge benefits, there is no doubt that others will present it in the same way as we present it.
Because Bitcoin is spread all over the world based on its own merits, those who are very worried about investing in Bitcoin are the bedbugs of this society.
If anyone criticizes it, we will definitely prove to them that Bitcoin is the best investment and is known as the safest and truest asset of this time, because you will be surprised when you look at the growth rate of Bitcoin. Only those who are stupid, they are afraid of taking risks, and only stupid people will say that Bitcoin is bad.

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