Topic: If you want to know why I hate the dev team and how they treat Bitcoin... - page 4. (Read 8751 times)

Feel free to make another thread on this.

Which immediately makes me wonder what nerve i've hit for you to bring up happiness...

My happiness isn't dependent on any of this.

Serially tho, stating that you're better never won a grown up argument.
You're about as much transcended as a kid hooked on sugar.
GIMME GIMME GIMME I NEEEEEED!.

Messias complexes usually end in the mental hospital.

I've never cared for a spotless appearance. I have also never cared for the organization nor the actions of the Bitcoin-Qt/Bitcoind project. I rather see it lose its recognition among the public. This end of mine -- it doesn't require code contributions of any kind.

Your obsession with honor and dignity has no bearing on my person. I never play that game. I transcend it.

Sure, you can demand all you want.
But in this case it makes you look like a little kid in a toy store that demands that the shop owners give him a toy.
I see a lot of that with people that do not contribute themselfs to code of an open source project.

Amen Brother.  Everyone knows how to manage cash and keep it relatively safe.  Kids as young as 8 have billfold wallets to keep their cards and cash.  Nearly everyone knows the basic premise behind a safe (piggly bank).  Users are simply going to have to learn how this system is different or risk keeping their funds with others.  It is not the job of developers to educate users nor alter the main client to accomodate them.

I have the right to demand whatever I want, along with everybody else. It's simple text and speech, nothing more. A right is simply an ability and I am able to speak.

As for actions, they remain in possession of the respective agents.

Yeah, but why do you think you have the right to demand that they fix stuff for you?

Unremorsefully. Autists have destroyed companies and they do not make marketable and successful products. Google OpenMoko.

I hope you realize that driving the first cars required you to be a mechanic and an enthousiast above anything else.
It's just the natural progression of technology.
10 years ago only nerds were fscking around with linux, now most smartphones run on it.
Bitcoin is still very much beta but here we have a person like atlas demanding a change and calling the devs autists.
Serially guys..
 

If someone could buy a bitcoins at a retail store and redeem them on a merchant site, what should this person be expected to learn before he's worthy enough to use Bitcoins?  Does GreenDot require two hours of learning before they let you buy a MoneyPak?

For this use case, what does someone need to know about spending a Bitcoin "gift card" beyond what's necessary to use a GreenDot MoneyPak?  About the only thing they need to know is a) it's decentralized, so b) there's no 800 number to call if anything goes wrong so be careful and don't put too many eggs in any one basket, and c) no one will be nannying you or monitoring how you spend your money, so enjoy your freedom.  What have I missed?

The idea that someone could steal their private key is something they've already been taught by MoneyPaks and iTunes gift cards in the form of scratchoffs reminding them that if the card is tampered, not to buy it.  The likelihood that the party who applied the scratchoffs - a commercial manufacturer of Bitcoin "gift cards" (think Bit-Pay) is going to defraud individuals out of their bitcoins - is no greater than the likelihood that they would defraud them out of Applebee's dollars today.

The idea that this person should be expected to learn a couple hours of anything or else be shut out because they should adapt to us, not the other way around, is... Atlas put it best... autism, a total failure to comprehend and adapt to the mindset and needs of the average human being.

It must really be hurting that you can't do any of this yourself, huh?
Whiner..

Even if you *must* have the client do the block-chain thing (and I understand the justification even if I don't necessarily agree with it), there's no reason you couldn't have the client run in a lightweight mode until the block-chain is caught up. Maybe with some suitable warning.

I've been using bitcoin-spinner to manage my so-far meagre funds but I fired up my PC wallet last night just for giggles and it took 15 minutes plus to catch up with the block-chain. That's not good user experience.

I understand block-chain processing === needed but it needs to be decoupled from the wallet. Heck, I should be able to run blockchain processing on my Linux server and keep my wallet on my nice friendly Windows GUI workstation, no? (Maybe I can already do this. I see that there are various options to the client that can be run on the command line.)

I guess the wallet could also contain a "change" address and the target should refund. That's still over-complicated though.

You have just described 99% of all computer users.

And no, there really should be no reason why they should have to think about these things. Most people don't know how their car works and neither should they have to know. Put gas in -> drive. Put Bitcoins in -> pay.

They exist. The future is in trustworthy online wallets. When Bitcoin is successful it won't be through http://bitcoin.org.

It doesn't have to be a problem because people do not need to download it.

It is. Most people drop Bitcoin because of it; Bitcoin-Qt is shoved down their throats.

Nobody wants to wait hours to get started.