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Topic: If you were in charge of Bitcoin 2.0 what would you change? - page 5. (Read 1004 times)

legendary
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You don't necessarily have to sacrifice something (If done right). If we take increasing blocksize vs SegWit.

SegWit have no downsides while increasing the blocksize could give us centralization to a certain degree as the blockchain size increases over the years.

We're far from having Bitcoin 2.0 but BIPs are definitely being put on the table and constantly being worked on so with time, the limitations will you're talking about will start to fade.

SegWit came with the effective blocksize increase, but it was small enough to not cause any harm. The main goal of segwit wasn't scalability though, it was a fix for signature malleability that now allows developers to work on new networks more easily. and to allow upgrades without consensus more easily

fixed that for you

bitcoin needs to go back to true consensus. not the trojan back door they just opened. many many people outside a certain group are noticing that bitcoin is now weaker security because of this new backdoor.
yes the certain group will promote that it makes their job of activating features easier. but it also makes malicious actors who also use the same method easier.

if you care about bitcoin security. you should not be thinking about whats easiest for a certain dev team. but whats most secure for a decentralised user to fight off code changes that the decentralised users may not want.

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as for scaling BITCOIN. instead of moving users OFF the bitcoin network. into vaulted co-permissioned factory managed networks of unaudited payments and requiring watch towers, etc. how about just trying to actually stop making bitcoin other network compatible. and instead make bitcoin actually scale beyond 7tx/s(600k tx a day)
satoshi himself expressed the numbers back in 2009-10 that the limitation is 600k tx a day.. mempools are always containing transactions, people are waiting more than 1 block. thus obviously segwit has not fixed, offered or given any scaling benefit to solve the issue.
segwits purpose to to make bitcoin compatible with other networks so that people dont use bitcoin

lastly
although segwit fake counts bytes of a baseblock. to bypass a rule.
the rule was put inplace for hard drive storage count.
hard drive bytes per transaction of actual full nodes have shown that segwit has NOT helped bring more transactions per hard drive byte storage.
blockchain stats have shown the average transaction count decline
and th updates have also made is so bloated spammers used to be able to bloat a block with just 5tx of 4k sigops. can now bloat a block of 5tx of 16k sigops. which is not helpful. its the opposite of helpful

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for those trying so hard to promote LN
LN is not a layer 2 of bitcoin.
LN was not designed to be a feature for bitcoin.
bitcoin had to be altered to fit LN

LN is a separate network for multiple coins. meaning what will happen for them people that want to be fullnodes to monitor channels locks to avoid double spends. is they will end up needing to be masternodes where they will have to monitor litecoin, vertcoin, bitcoin and other LN compatible coin lock mechanisms

LN does not help reduce hard drive bloat. instead its just taking users away from 100% sole control push transactions and moved it into another network that will require masternode watchtower factories who will charge to be the vaults of onchain funds to then pass out unaudited channel payments of 12 decimals. so that they can charge a fee for their service

people need to really understand not just the rose tinted empty promises. but also the stark realities of proposals. just taking a proposal as good because "trust a dev" is not a good mindset of a decentralised network
legendary
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I believe franky1 will love this topic, and will have a lot to say. Especially because of his perceived "incompetence" of the Core developers in maintaining the development of a secure, censorship-resistant cryptocurrency.

Who would be your candidates as lead developers of Bitcoin 2.0?
legendary
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STOP SNITCHIN'
At this point, as masterfully as Bitcoin was created, it has some limitations of course. 

My question is: Could it be done better, or is it just matter of trading one feature for another (i.e. speed for decentralization)?

If we were to build it from scratch again, confidential transactions would be ideal. While the fully transparent ledger is good for some things, it's not ideal for transactions where privacy is necessary.

Speed and scalability are always going to be the weak points of decentralized systems. They're inefficient and redundant, and speeding up block times just worsens orphan rates, lowering transaction security.
legendary
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The developers have decided to go to second layer solutions now and I think this was a very smart move, because you still have the rock solid security of the core protocol for large transactions and then a less mature platform for smaller micro transactions.

The decision to reduce the security for on-chain transactions was genius, because it gives people an alternative method to transfer coins if anything fails on the off-chain side.  Cool

We do not need Bitcoin 2.0 if we just shift development onto second layers.  Wink 
hero member
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If I was in charge of Bitcoin 2.0,I wouldn't change anything in the code.
I will register bitcoin as a trademark and I would sue all the forked bitcoin cash,gold,diamond,unlimited,etc. forks for using the word "bitcoin". Grin
I won't charge btc users and companies for using that word,but all the forked altcoins will have to change their names or die.
hero member
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HODLing is an art, not just a word...
SegWit have no downsides while increasing the blocksize could give us centralization to a certain degree as the blockchain size increases over the years.

any kind of change will always have both downsides and upsides. so it is wrong to say SegWit didn't have any downsides! because it did. for example the fact that it is opt-in makes it an inefficient block size increase. and also the complexity of it has been a problem for services to adopt it.
legendary
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You don't necessarily have to sacrifice something (If done right). If we take increasing blocksize vs SegWit.

SegWit have no downsides while increasing the blocksize could give us centralization to a certain degree as the blockchain size increases over the years.

We're far from having Bitcoin 2.0 but BIPs are definitely being put on the table and constantly being worked on so with time, the limitations will you're talking about will start to fade.

SegWit came with the effective blocksize increase, but it was small enough to not cause any harm. The main goal of segwit wasn't scalability though, it was a fix for signature malleability that now allows developers to work on new features more easily.

At this point, as masterfully as Bitcoin was created, it has some limitations of course. 

My question is:  Could it be done better, or is it just matter of trading one feature for another (i.e. speed for decentralization)?

If you are suggesting that Bitcoin is inherently flawed and that there's a need for a brand new protocol, than look at altcoins - many of them are promising exactly that with their hashgraphs, tangle, DPOS and other buzzwords. The fact that they have no users and are plagued with bugs and other problems only means that it's too early to bury Bitcoin. It might very well be that there can be nothing better than Bitcoin's protocol.
staff
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You don't necessarily have to sacrifice something (If done right). If we take increasing blocksize vs SegWit.

SegWit have no downsides while increasing the blocksize could give us centralization to a certain degree as the blockchain size increases over the years.

We're far from having Bitcoin 2.0 but BIPs are definitely being put on the table and constantly being worked on so with time, the limitations will you're talking about will start to fade.
newbie
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At this point, as masterfully as Bitcoin was created, it has some limitations of course. 

My question is:  Could it be done better, or is it just matter of trading one feature for another (i.e. speed for decentralization)?
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