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Quote from: nullama on December 27, 2022, 11:02:37 AM

Quote from: d3nz on December 27, 2022, 10:04:14 AM

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That's too risky and for sure that there is no guarantee that you will win, and it is a bit of luck if you ever won. The question is if you are really an experienced gambler and have tactics for winning the game. Also, what if you lose the money? What would be your excuse?

Eventually the person will lose the money, and the friend.

It's a no win situation, I wouldn't do that at all.

Everyone should gamble whatever they want, without involving other people, that's just asking for trouble.

That is why I would ask him first for no complaints in case of losing the bankroll entirely or partially. If he agreed with this condition I would be fine in going ahead and gambling some traditional games like crash, mines, dice, limbo, blackjack, plinko until reaching his goal or until going busted. However, if he expressed any discomfort with the loss possibility, I would tell him to find someone else to gamble with his funds or to gamble by himself. Anyway, from 10,000$ to 65,000$ is a long road to pass through and the chances of succeeding are minimal.

A better idea would be to go from 10,000$ to 15,000$ or 20,000$ only. Probably I would try to convince him about it as well.

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I do not need to be a genius to know that gambling other people's money is always a bad idea.
At first I would try to convince my friend not to gamble that much but rather invest it, if he insisted I think I would try to go for live poker. I would try to learn more and improve my technique first, since it has been a long time since I played it.

The other options would be dices, but that would be too risky, in my opinion.

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Quote from: nullama on December 27, 2022, 11:02:37 AM

Quote from: d3nz on December 27, 2022, 10:04:14 AM

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That's too risky and for sure that there is no guarantee that you will win, and it is a bit of luck if you ever won. The question is if you are really an experienced gambler and have tactics for winning the game. Also, what if you lose the money? What would be your excuse?

Eventually the person will lose the money, and the friend.

It's a no win situation, I wouldn't do that at all.

Everyone should gamble whatever they want, without involving other people, that's just asking for trouble.

I am on a different opinion here, it's not a big deal to ask for help, especially from a gambler you know that is more experienced than you. It depends on the situation, it's only when you and the friend are equal in gambling skills that I would have preferred your own disposition about this. A friend had helped me out with a football betting ticket before that worked better than I could have played it. So we should know our level of gambling before being rigid about this.

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Quote from: Cling18 on December 27, 2022, 09:37:08 AM

Quote from: Riocasino on December 24, 2022, 07:35:00 PM

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They always say that we shouldn't involve gambling and money in friendship because it could easily ruin relationships. That will be a risky offer and your friend might only blame you if every you'll lose in gambling. Let him decide on his own and never get involved in it. As a friend, you can also advise him not to risk a huge amount of money in gambling if he aims to make a profit. Never decide for your friend's fortune in gambling.

And as I posted before, that it would be very risky to risk money that is not ours. the reason is, in the OP thread story a friend offered to stake 10k and wanted to double it to 65k with a luck based type of gamble. if we win we are very lucky, if we lose maybe what you say could happen. hence, why we refuse to get involved. as a friend, i will not forbid him with what he is planning.

maybe, I will provide input for playing just for fun without targeting large amounts of wins. Oftentimes, someone who targets high winnings from gambling will end up losing. moreover, gambling based on luck. i like to play roulette, blackjack, baccarat, or any other kind of gambling. but just just for fun, nothing more. so, from what the Op asked in the thread. I will choose to bet with personal capital, rather than having to bear the burden and risk of losing.

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Quote from: d3nz on December 27, 2022, 10:04:14 AM

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That's too risky and for sure that there is no guarantee that you will win, and it is a bit of luck if you ever won. The question is if you are really an experienced gambler and have tactics for winning the game. Also, what if you lose the money? What would be your excuse?

Eventually the person will lose the money, and the friend.

It's a no win situation, I wouldn't do that at all.

Everyone should gamble whatever they want, without involving other people, that's just asking for trouble.

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Quote from: maydna on December 26, 2022, 01:18:18 AM

I would have refused if he had asked me to play his money in the casino. I'd better advise him to keep the money because there's no guarantee we'll make any money gambling. Especially if it is a roulette game, we know that the game is based on luck, and if we don't have luck, we will lose and spend all the money without recovering it. It wouldn't be good if he saw defeat and lost all his money or only lost half of all his money still wouldn't make him feel good. And that can trigger him to try to recover his losses by placing another bet.

sometimes even though we accept it there is an awkward and uncomfortable feeling for our friends if in the end they lose and lose money, even though our friends can use the money to invest in crypto don't use it to play gambling because we are not completely lucky sometimes we also don't know our unlucky day

That's what I don't want to happen between us because that's what will happen even though we are best friends. Maybe he won't ask for his money back, but as friends, we feel bad for him and will say we'll give him all his money back. That is why I refuse to use the money because there is a risk of losing it, and I will never know how much money will be spent on gambling later.

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Quote from: maydna on December 26, 2022, 01:18:18 AM

I would have refused if he had asked me to play his money in the casino. I'd better advise him to keep the money because there's no guarantee we'll make any money gambling. Especially if it is a roulette game, we know that the game is based on luck, and if we don't have luck, we will lose and spend all the money without recovering it. It wouldn't be good if he saw defeat and lost all his money or only lost half of all his money still wouldn't make him feel good. And that can trigger him to try to recover his losses by placing another bet.

Without luck the outcome will always be on the favor of the house, better to advise not contnue or use his money instead and let him enjoy whatever the outcome instead of letting him force you to play in hs behalf, roulette is something that you might win again if luck is there to back you up, but if there's none then expect to suffer and lose your capital.

Precisely. The house is bound to take all its money from the losing gambler. And we imagine if we lose all the money and our friends grieve over the loss of the money. We will surely feel sad and sorry for him because we are also a part of it. We also never know when our luck will come. Therefore, we better refuse to use the money.

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Quote from: Cling18 on December 27, 2022, 09:37:08 AM

Quote from: Riocasino on December 24, 2022, 07:35:00 PM

If your friend would tell you hey bud I have 10k in BTC lets try to make it 65k. You play on the casino for me.
How would you play? what would be your game pattren?

Id probably do 1 game of black (20k win) then one game of roullete with 10 numbers = $65k profit.

what would you do

They always say that we shouldn't involve gambling and money in friendship because it could easily ruin relationships. That will be a risky offer and your friend might only blame you if every you'll lose in gambling. Let him decide on his own and never get involved in it. As a friend, you can also advise him not to risk a huge amount of money in gambling if he aims to make a profit. Never decide for your friend's fortune in gambling.

That's too risky and for sure that there is no guarantee that you will win, and it is a bit of luck if you ever won. The question is if you are really an experienced gambler and have tactics for winning the game. Also, what if you lose the money? What would be your excuse?

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Quote from: Riocasino on December 24, 2022, 07:35:00 PM

If your friend would tell you hey bud I have 10k in BTC lets try to make it 65k. You play on the casino for me.
How would you play? what would be your game pattren?

Id probably do 1 game of black (20k win) then one game of roullete with 10 numbers = $65k profit.

what would you do

They always say that we shouldn't involve gambling and money in friendship because it could easily ruin relationships. That will be a risky offer and your friend might only blame you if every you'll lose in gambling. Let him decide on his own and never get involved in it. As a friend, you can also advise him not to risk a huge amount of money in gambling if he aims to make a profit. Never decide for your friend's fortune in gambling.

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Quote from: Riocasino on December 24, 2022, 07:35:00 PM

If your friend would tell you hey bud I have 10k in BTC lets try to make it 65k. You play on the casino for me.
How would you play? what would be your game pattren?

Id probably do 1 game of black (20k win) then one game of roullete with 10 numbers = $65k profit.

what would you do

I'd probably go for sports betting because it requires knowledge about the sports and team record to be able to place a nice bet. The probability of winning lies on how you assess the information you have at hand. So you have the edge if you know how to assess and analyze things. The better chance of winning if you have a good sense of prediction and gut feeling. Since luck also plays a role in sports betting aside from utilizing what you already knew.

However, I will definitely make it clear to my friend that we will not undergo the blaming game once things don't go out on our favor and expectations. There should be a written agreement about the winnings and losses so that no one will have hard feelings after it's done, whatever the results are. After all, it's him who reached out, therefore it must not take a toll on my mental health and well-being after I did what I'm supposed to do.

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Quote from: Riocasino on December 24, 2022, 07:35:00 PM

If your friend would tell you hey bud I have 10k in BTC lets try to make it 65k. You play on the casino for me.
How would you play? what would be your game pattren?

Id probably do 1 game of black (20k win) then one game of roullete with 10 numbers = $65k profit.

what would you do

Who told you that winning is certain in gambling? If I was the one being asked to play for his/her money, I'd refuse. Winning is never certain in this industry and if I'd play that money, the blame could be on me (even if he/she's the one to ask the favor). Another thing is some sort of regret perhaps you'd win from that amount; think of your gain if that was your capital. So just to be safe from any negative outcome, prevent it in the first place. To those people who'd say "why would he blame you if that amount would loss if he/she is your friend?". Please grow up. It is money we are talking about and it is something which has value. Again, never think that gambling is a shortcut to being rich. Think of how many people gone broke because of this activity.

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Quote from: bitcampaign on December 26, 2022, 05:52:14 PM

i will bet on sport match because if i bet at the casino the house will always win and i don't want to disappoint my friend, i will analyze every game as much as i can to bet all the money untill reach $100k profit

And you'd have about 10% chance to reach that goal because we're talking about a 10x win, so you'd really have to be good at this and very lucky.
Most likely you'd win a small sum or lose it all, and then what? No 100k and no money for your friend?

Some of you don't have a lot of fears when it comes to this. It's like you turn off thinking when it comes to money. What if a friend told you to take their 1 million dollar car for a ride? I'd be afraid because my first thought would be "what if someone crashes into me and for the rest of my life I'll be the one who destroyed his car?" It wouldn't matter that it wasn't my fault. In social gatherings I'd be the shit driver that wrecked the expensive car, the guy who you don't trust with expensive things.

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This is just for discussion purposes, it'll be hard to find such a confusing offer. I don't think any friend of mine would offer such a proposal, but if any does, I'd ask him what he wants? and remind him that it's gambling and not an investment, if he actually wants to stake the money whether win or loss. To clarify he is right with his decision, they should be a witness around that'll testify what happened in case things go wrong and he wants his money back. Following the easy route, a dice game will be fine, though, it'll be a long play as I won't go all in. But, its certain he won't loss all his money and I may not hit his target.

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Quote from: Jemzx00 on December 26, 2022, 06:52:19 PM

Quote from: serjent05 on December 26, 2022, 03:15:12 PM

Quote from: Solosanz on December 24, 2022, 11:50:10 PM

1. I will reject his offer since most people can't accept they loss and will blame the other party, so it will ruin my friendship because of gambling.

This should be the answer but it will hurt your friend's feelings because he thinks he is doing something in good faith and yet you refuse it. I think there is no problem playing your friend's money as long as it is clear that he won't blame you if ever you lose it all.

If your friend will be hurt if you denied his offer, then I don't think that you should really be accepting it on the first place. Imagine how high the responsibility that you will have to carry if you lose his money and not be able to reach the goal, he had set.

Even if there is no string attached whether you lose it or not, but it will still somehow affect your mental health thinking that you have lost your friend's money.

I agree. Even your friend is fine incase you lose his money, still, it doesn't feel good knowing you're the one responsible why it happened. So, much better to let him gamble his money if he really want to, then just accompany him as your support. People changed when it comes to money hence don't put yourself into a hard situation facing the consequences of your decision to gamble the money that is not yours.

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Too much pressure, right from the start I feel obliged in some way to my performance not open ready relaxed, free and easy. I feel I would lose under such a weight to perform, ironically and ideally you wouldnt give a dam because then I think people would be more lucky if trying to win consistently without being scared to play or lose.
Its a bad idea, I know hypothetical but play for yourself imo this only how you lose a friend in my experience.

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Quote from: serjent05 on December 26, 2022, 03:15:12 PM

Quote from: Solosanz on December 24, 2022, 11:50:10 PM

1. I will reject his offer since most people can't accept they loss and will blame the other party, so it will ruin my friendship because of gambling.

This should be the answer but it will hurt your friend's feelings because he thinks he is doing something in good faith and yet you refuse it. I think there is no problem playing your friend's money as long as it is clear that he won't blame you if ever you lose it all.

If your friend will be hurt if you denied his offer, then I don't think that you should really be accepting it on the first place. Imagine how high the responsibility that you will have to carry if you lose his money and not be able to reach the goal, he had set.

Even if there is no string attached whether you lose it or not, but it will still somehow affect your mental health thinking that you have lost your friend's money.

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Quote from: pixie85 on December 25, 2022, 03:19:58 PM

I wouldn't play with his money, wouldn't want the friendship to end like that. There's a rule that you don't do business with friends, don't employ them in your company, don't borrow money from them unless you're in deep shit and don't gamble against them, unless they're very chill about it and it's not a lot of money.

Their discussion looks like a chill one. If the agreement is clear and no such thing as in the event of loss, there will be one to blame, they are good to push their plan on gambling that kind of money. As long as they understand that gambling is not a joke, they can gamble the hell of their money even how much it is, and just mind their own business.

Since gambling requires some luck especially playing casino games, I just hope that luck will guide them lol.

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i will bet on sport match because if i bet at the casino the house will always win and i don't want to disappoint my friend, i will analyze every game as much as i can to bet all the money untill reach $100k profit

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Quote from: tjtonmoy on December 26, 2022, 03:23:50 PM

This is what gambling is described in the dictionary - take risky action in the hope of a desired result.
So in gambling, there's always a chance to lose. Never put all your money in one game. And one thing that is highly suggested is don't invest what you can't lose. If you have only that asset, then I should say, don't put them all in gambling. Try other way and put only that amount which you are willing to lose.
And if the money belongs to someone else, just DON'T

You would really be getting that blame for sure even if they would say that it is really just fine but they are really that expecting something from that amount.It is really just that impossible that
someone on your friend would really be just giving you 10k and let you handle or play with it.Why not they cant just make it for themselves? rather than on letting others bet from it.
Just like other people been saying that this isnt a small amount which you could just simply let lose in a short span of time.If ever there are ones who do ask out on
making bets in behalf of him them roulette or dice would really be that something good to test on.

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Quote from: Riocasino on December 24, 2022, 07:35:00 PM

If your friend would tell you hey bud I have 10k in BTC lets try to make it 65k. You play on the casino for me.
How would you play? what would be your game pattren?

Id probably do 1 game of black (20k win) then one game of roullete with 10 numbers = $65k profit.

what would you do

I think roulette is the best in here but for simplicity I guess dice is the best choice of gamble you need to play with a friend. There are diverse games in a casino and you can vote for each to decide the best course of action, if your friend knows somehow a game he loves to play, just take that chance he might be lucky on that.

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This is what gambling is described in the dictionary - take risky action in the hope of a desired result.
So in gambling, there's always a chance to lose. Never put all your money in one game. And one thing that is highly suggested is don't invest what you can't lose. If you have only that asset, then I should say, don't put them all in gambling. Try other way and put only that amount which you are willing to lose.
And if the money belongs to someone else, just DON'T

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