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Quote from: serjent05 on December 26, 2022, 03:15:12 PM

Quote from: Genemind on December 26, 2022, 05:56:21 AM

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Quote from: Solosanz on December 24, 2022, 11:50:10 PM

1. I will reject his offer since most people can't accept they loss and will blame the other party, so it will ruin my friendship because of gambling.

This should be the answer but it will hurt your friend's feelings because he thinks he is doing something in good faith and yet you refuse it. I think there is no problem playing your friend's money as long as it is clear that he won't blame you if ever you lose it all.

To be sincere with you, I would also do the same, that is reject the offer, this I forgot to mention in my previous comment, I will never gamble with a friend's money, not even my own brother, except we are going to do it together, that is sitting side by side starring at the computer and deciding which game to play, how to play it and what amount to bet on.
This is the only way I would accept such an offer, if it be that my friend wants me to take the money and gamble with it on my own, I would will not accept and it doesn't matter whether he feels bad or not, friendship does not mine we wil accept and do things for each other all the time, even the impossible..

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Quote from: Genemind on December 26, 2022, 05:56:21 AM

I'll talk to my friend first if he knows the risk of entrusting someone with gambling funds. I will play it my way if he understands the risk, but I won't promise that I can make it to $65,000 or even win since gambling is risky. I will play it in small bets using martingale with dice, blackjack, or any card games. Spend some of the money playing slot games and other live games since there's a lot you can do with $10,000.

You have target winnings, I do not think that martingale is the most effective way of reaching the target. Imagine if you do a martingale strategy, you can only double your initial bet after several rolls and risk. It isn't worth it at all except if you do reverse martingale where you double your winning every win but you need a reset your bet every x win to be able to pocket the winnings else if you just let your bet roll, you will never profit and will end up losing your fund.

Quote from: Solosanz on December 24, 2022, 11:50:10 PM

1. I will reject his offer since most people can't accept they loss and will blame the other party, so it will ruin my friendship because of gambling.

This should be the answer but it will hurt your friend's feelings because he thinks he is doing something in good faith and yet you refuse it. I think there is no problem playing your friend's money as long as it is clear that he won't blame you if ever you lose it all.

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Quote from: Riocasino on December 24, 2022, 10:45:08 PM

Too much waiting 3 or 4 yrs. gambling is entertaining.

Yeah sort of that. Next bullrun happening after next bitcoin halving on 2024, which the bull run will start on 2025 (NFA). But i think it's better to wait instead gamble that huge money like that, unless you already rich enough to lose that money and can earn that again in a month or short time.
Gambling is entertaining when you won, but never when you lose it .

Gambling is more risky when we gamble with huge amount so probably I will also wait even for quite long as long as I can assure that I will have my best best and that bet will have higher probability to win. Otherwise, betting for just some chance and luck will only lose them all in the end. And I won’t allow that to happen since the amount I am holding is definitely big and it would be insane losing them all in the long run.

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Quote from: Solosanz on December 24, 2022, 11:50:10 PM

1. I will reject his offer since most people can't accept they loss and will blame the other party, so it will ruin my friendship because of gambling.

I feel this way too because I have seen alot of cases where money ruined friendships and also of how people refused to accept loss when they loose in gambling. The friend can deny he said something like that if he is the type who can not stomach losses if it happens. But if there is a written agreement on that I can go ahead. I will choose sporting betting like football and tennis. These are sports I can be very confident to bet on but it has to be gradual bets in bits, no like putting all the cash on a single bet.

One we have ti know is that gambling is something that a gambler supposed make up it mind to gamble without anyone description in gamblling, believe that sometimes we gamble because what come to our mind in gambling not following another person direction, because if you happen to lose nobody will agree to say it's the one that gives you channel or encouragement to gamble, but when you win you will see many people who will come and say that they made you what you are.

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Quote from: Solosanz on December 24, 2022, 11:50:10 PM

1. I will reject his offer since most people can't accept they loss and will blame the other party, so it will ruin my friendship because of gambling.

I feel this way too because I have seen alot of cases where money ruined friendships and also of how people refused to accept loss when they loose in gambling. The friend can deny he said something like that if he is the type who can not stomach losses if it happens. But if there is a written agreement on that I can go ahead. I will choose sporting betting like football and tennis. These are sports I can be very confident to bet on but it has to be gradual bets in bits, no like putting all the cash on a single bet.

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Quote from: Riocasino on December 24, 2022, 07:35:00 PM

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First of all I think it will never happened to me and one more thing I am not that kind of hardcore gambler, even then my opinion will be ask him to accept the risk first that I can't take any responsibility for it then split it into several parts and gamble on them part by part not at once.
Moreover, I have another idea in my mind that 10k dollars is not a very small amount, if I hold bitcoins for long term with this amount, then maybe it will be possible to withdraw that money, because if my friend gives me 10k, then he has to take this responsibility that it can be completely lost Grin

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Quote from: Riocasino on December 24, 2022, 07:35:00 PM

If your friend would tell you hey bud I have 10k in BTC lets try to make it 65k. You play on the casino for me.
How would you play? what would be your game pattren?

Id probably do 1 game of black (20k win) then one game of roullete with 10 numbers = $65k profit.
what would you do

even though it's not my money but $10k is not a small amount of money in my country and surely I wouldn't easily accept a friend of mine spending all that money on gambling.

Quote from: Genemind on December 26, 2022, 05:56:21 AM

I'll talk to my friend first if he knows the risk of entrusting someone with gambling funds. I will play it my way if he understands the risk, but I won't promise that I can make it to $65,000 or even win since gambling is risky. I will play it in small bets using martingale with dice, blackjack, or any card games. Spend some of the money playing slot games and other live games since there's a lot you can do with $10,000.

martingale is a very risky strategy, I will not do it even if I have large capital or I use my friend's capital and I would avoid gambling based on luck. I will definitely advise my friends to put all that money into sports betting and football is the best option, betting on what we are good at will give big winning chances.

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Quote from: Fredomago on December 26, 2022, 08:22:11 AM

Quote from: maydna on December 26, 2022, 01:18:18 AM

I would have refused if he had asked me to play his money in the casino. I'd better advise him to keep the money because there's no guarantee we'll make any money gambling. Especially if it is a roulette game, we know that the game is based on luck, and if we don't have luck, we will lose and spend all the money without recovering it. It wouldn't be good if he saw defeat and lost all his money or only lost half of all his money still wouldn't make him feel good. And that can trigger him to try to recover his losses by placing another bet.

Without luck the outcome will always be on the favor of the house, better to advise not continue or use his money instead and let him enjoy whatever the outcome instead of letting him force you to play in hs behalf, roulette is something that you might win again if luck is there to back you up, but if there's none then expect to suffer and lose your capital.

Luck is the deciding factor in gambling. It is always good to play with one's own fund. We don't have assurance of winning a bet, if it is our own money whether we loss or win it won't disturb us. When we play with friend's money, if we win it brings happiness. If the bets loss, it'll surely make our mind get disturbed even if the friend didn't take it wrong.

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Quote from: Riocasino on December 24, 2022, 07:35:00 PM

If your friend would tell you hey bud I have 10k in BTC lets try to make it 65k. You play on the casino for me.
How would you play? what would be your game pattren?

Id probably do 1 game of black (20k win) then one game of roullete with 10 numbers = $65k profit.

what would you do

To be honest, I would refuse it. I don't want to be burdened with the hope of winning the gamble. especially if the gambling we play is luck-based gambling. I think it's too heavy for me to bear the burden, especially if I lose. of course, the disappointment that we will get. I am not used to it, after all the probability of a big win we have in luck based gambling is very small. however, if you are lucky, of course, it will be greatly multiplied, maybe more than what was previously targeted.

Regardless of the context of this thread, if my friend could do some gambling and make a gamble for himself. why do I have to get involved, I can even play with my own capital without the burden and risk of losing afterwards. however, if I want to double 10k it becomes 65k. chances are I'll bet on a sportbook, yes sports betting. I can choose the type of parlay mode for soccer bets with 3 or 4 matches. if I lose, it is part of the risk. if i am lucky i will win my parlay bet slip.

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Quote from: Riocasino on December 24, 2022, 07:35:00 PM

If your friend would tell you hey bud I have 10k in BTC lets try to make it 65k. You play on the casino for me.
How would you play? what would be your game pattren?

Id probably do 1 game of black (20k win) then one game of roullete with 10 numbers = $65k profit.

what would you do

If that happens to me, I would prefer to keep his 10k Bitcoins in a decentral wallet for long-term purposes, because 10k Bitcoins is not a small amount of money for me. And again, gambling is not a place to multiply money, even though not a few people get returns that are more than their expectations. although also for the sake of fun it's better to use money that isn't in bitcoin, the bad thing that can happen is that 10k Bitcoin can disappear in a matter of hours or even minutes, so I need to remind my friend, for the safety of money my friend.

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Quote from: maydna on December 26, 2022, 01:18:18 AM

I would have refused if he had asked me to play his money in the casino. I'd better advise him to keep the money because there's no guarantee we'll make any money gambling. Especially if it is a roulette game, we know that the game is based on luck, and if we don't have luck, we will lose and spend all the money without recovering it. It wouldn't be good if he saw defeat and lost all his money or only lost half of all his money still wouldn't make him feel good. And that can trigger him to try to recover his losses by placing another bet.

Without luck the outcome will always be on the favor of the house, better to advise not contnue or use his money instead and let him enjoy whatever the outcome instead of letting him force you to play in hs behalf, roulette is something that you might win again if luck is there to back you up, but if there's none then expect to suffer and lose your capital.

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Quote from: Riocasino on December 24, 2022, 07:35:00 PM

If your friend would tell you hey bud I have 10k in BTC lets try to make it 65k. You play on the casino for me.
How would you play? what would be your game pattren?

Id probably do 1 game of black (20k win) then one game of roullete with 10 numbers = $65k profit.
what would you do

In this case I would first ask my friend to accept his ricks as I will never take responsibility for his money if it is lost. Because gambling is a very risky thing . If he takes the risk and own responsibility. So I'll go to the live games first to bet and play dice and play blackjack . I will try to increase his money through these

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Quote from: Riocasino on December 24, 2022, 07:35:00 PM

If your friend would tell you hey bud I have 10k in BTC lets try to make it 65k. You play on the casino for me.
How would you play? what would be your game pattren?

Id probably do 1 game of black (20k win) then one game of roullete with 10 numbers = $65k profit.

what would you do

To stressful to handle especially if the money is not yours so maybe I will clarify first if he can afford to lose that and he will not blame me if unfortunate things happen since we are not lucky everyday then we might lose all the funds he give to us. If he can handle this then I will use this money to play poker since I'm half confident that I can handle this one. Also I will split some amount to use on sports betting since this is what I am familiar with and have good chance to win.

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If there's no other choice and I can't decline, I'll divide it into different scenarios, games, and allocations. Well, it will depend on how will be the first outcome of my game.
My first choice will be in sports betting which I know of but honestly speaking if I'll be entrusted with that amount I'll talk to my friend instead of gambling it.
We have another option but it's way slower but have more chances of growing his money and that is investing, and the first choice of where it will be allocated, none other than bitcoin.

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Quote from: maydna on December 26, 2022, 01:18:18 AM

I would have refused if he had asked me to play his money in the casino. I'd better advise him to keep the money because there's no guarantee we'll make any money gambling. Especially if it is a roulette game, we know that the game is based on luck, and if we don't have luck, we will lose and spend all the money without recovering it. It wouldn't be good if he saw defeat and lost all his money or only lost half of all his money still wouldn't make him feel good. And that can trigger him to try to recover his losses by placing another bet.

sometimes even though we accept it there is an awkward and uncomfortable feeling for our friends if in the end they lose and lose money, even though our friends can use the money to invest in crypto don't use it to play gambling because we are not completely lucky sometimes we also don't know our unlucky day

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Quote from: Genemind on December 26, 2022, 05:56:21 AM

I'll talk to my friend first if he knows the risk of entrusting someone with gambling funds. I will play it my way if he understands the risk, but I won't promise that I can make it to $65,000 or even win since gambling is risky. I will play it in small bets using martingale with dice, blackjack, or any card games. Spend some of the money playing slot games and other live games since there's a lot you can do with $10,000.

The most probable thing to happen is that you will lose the money, nothing personal, just maths.

And when that happens, you will end up without the money and without the friend, unfortunately.

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I'll talk to my friend first if he knows the risk of entrusting someone with gambling funds. I will play it my way if he understands the risk, but I won't promise that I can make it to $65,000 or even win since gambling is risky. I will play it in small bets using martingale with dice, blackjack, or any card games. Spend some of the money playing slot games and other live games since there's a lot you can do with $10,000.

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I think going all-in in blackjack is too risky even if you are sure about your ability but your pattern in roulette seems more winnable because you are scattering your bet in to 10 numbers instead of one. Why not go with roulette first? Once you win and build some balances, that's the time you can bet/play slowly in the blackjack game.

I have no skills in roulette or in blackjack but I have some experience already in a dice game so I will only use this game. As for the pattern, I think I will be using a martingale strategy because I think this one is more safer than playing the default way. Trying to win $65k starting from a $10k capital seems pretty achievable as long as we don't rush things.

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It's risky and I don't think it will gonna work.

Let's say you and your friend are successful make $65,000 from $10,000, then it will comes to how you both will share the prize and it's need to be fair? You will say let's divide the winning prize, so $55,000/2 is $27,500, you will get $27,500 while your friend get $27,500+$10,000 (initial deposit). But your friend say it's not fair because if he doesn't have the initial deposit, you wouldn't get anything and your friends winning more than you, so he only want to reward you 5%-10%. You will mad and angry to your friend since it's not fair.

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Quote from: Saisher on December 26, 2022, 03:13:03 AM

Quote from: Riocasino on December 24, 2022, 07:35:00 PM

If your friend would tell you hey bud I have 10k in BTC lets try to make it 65k. You play on the casino for me.
How would you play? what would be your game pattren?

Id probably do 1 game of black (20k win) then one game of roullete with 10 numbers = $65k profit.

I'll first explain the risk and tell him that there's no guarantee that I can multiply the money until it reaches $65k if it's ok for him and he wants results right away any game in a casino can do that I'll go for crash game set the winning to 6x of the amount bet its high risk but you can result under a minute if you're lucky you can instantly win ten times of the amount, the most important here is he's ok with whatever decision you do with the fund.

Playing a casino game for a friend is one thing I wouldn't do for no reason because it's a very risky game,and if I don't win his money for him,or in the process of playing I lost,he wouldn't take it likely with me,he would want me to refund his money even when he knows it's not my fault loosing.He would forget the fact that casino game is a game of luck,and if luck is not on your side that day,you are definitely going to loose.
The day I made that mistake playing game for my brother,we had problem for a long period of time,just because I didn't win with his money.I was just unlucky that day,and wasted his money due to casino game.I can't try it for anybody again.

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